Shooting reported at Umpqua Community College in Oregon.....Another one :{

blco02 said:
shogun said:
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People can't even park correctly in parking spots or signal when changing lanes. The thought of people with guns trying to play hero in bad situations would worry me.
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You would rather people be sitting ducks just waiting for a madman to come end their life? If YOU or someone in YOUR family was in that school today, would you like them to have a handgun and the ability to save their life?
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I don't think you understand what shogun is saying. With people trying to play hero, there is the potential for more to go wrong in the situation.
 
Colombia said:
MPLSdunk said:
You forgot about the dudes in Norway who shot up a whole island, what about that one bud? Shooting people in their backs as they're trying to swim away.
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I'm not saying countries with strict gun laws are completely safe from mass shootings, I'm just saying it happens so rarely that I can live my life without feeling the need to own a gun or worry about someone shooting me. You named one mass shooting in a European country and it was in 2011.
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You had a very elitist way of writing that. Acting like y'all are angels over there.
 
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Having a weapon doesn't mean citizens are going to act accordingly under pressure though. In a place where people could carry there was still no intervention by civilians with guns.
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i thought the school banned weapons from being on campus.. i saw someone post something from teh schools page.. a page earlier..
 
Colombia said:
MPLSdunk said:
You forgot about the dudes in Norway who shot up a whole island, what about that one bud? Shooting people in their backs as they're trying to swim away.
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I'm not saying countries with strict gun laws are completely safe from mass shootings, I'm just saying it happens so rarely that I can live my life without feeling the need to own a gun or worry about someone shooting me. You named one mass shooting in a European country and it was in 2011.
And for the record I mentioned Switzerland specifically because it's the only 1st world country that is comparable to the US in terms of gun ownership.
I can't think of any mass shootings in Switzerland, at least not recently. 
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Switzerland has a percentage of the population of the USA, and thus its issues and solutions to issues can't be compared.
 
AZwildcats said:
So this is just gonna keep happening? Like its become normal to have this happen a couple times a year?
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America has gotten use to other stuff just as bad and sometimes worse.

Collectively somebody already mentioned we're a pretty sociopathic community. We'll talk gun control, mourn, get angry, debate other stuff that led to this and then after a week move on to the next thing media is reporting or go back to our entertainment until it happens again. It won't even get as much attention if the shooter is caught and has a trial and later on sentencing. I'd say ppl are already use to it.
 
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I wonder how soon until there's a mass shooting on every major university campus in America? and then every community college campus? 30-40 years?
 
Death toll at 13 now 
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Colombia said:
 
MPLSdunk said:
You forgot about the dudes in Norway who shot up a whole island, what about that one bud? Shooting people in their backs as they're trying to swim away.
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I'm not saying countries with strict gun laws are completely safe from mass shootings, I'm just saying it happens so rarely that I can live my life without feeling the need to own a gun or worry about someone shooting me. You named one mass shooting in a European country and it was in 2011.
And for the record I mentioned Switzerland specifically because it's the only 1st world country that is comparable to the US in terms of gun ownership.
I can't think of any mass shootings in Switzerland, at least not recently. 
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Switzerland has a percentage of the population of the USA, and thus its issues and solutions to issues can't be compared.
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this is a cheap excuse that makes no sense 

a nation of 8 million people is more than enough as a sample size to test human behaviour over gun control 
 
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AZwildcats said:
 
Colombia said:
 
MPLSdunk said:
You forgot about the dudes in Norway who shot up a whole island, what about that one bud? Shooting people in their backs as they're trying to swim away.
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I'm not saying countries with strict gun laws are completely safe from mass shootings, I'm just saying it happens so rarely that I can live my life without feeling the need to own a gun or worry about someone shooting me. You named one mass shooting in a European country and it was in 2011.
And for the record I mentioned Switzerland specifically because it's the only 1st world country that is comparable to the US in terms of gun ownership.
I can't think of any mass shootings in Switzerland, at least not recently. 
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Switzerland has a percentage of the population of the USA, and thus its issues and solutions to issues can't be compared.
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this is a cheap excuse that makes no sense 

a nation of 8 million people is more than enough as a sample size to test human behaviour over gun control 
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Switzerland also doesn't have the wealth disparity/economic inequality that the United States has.
 
AZwildcats said:
Switzerland has a percentage of the population of the USA, and thus its issues and solutions to issues can't be compared.
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Switzerland shows that a society with a high gun ownership rate can work. It has a population of nearly 8 million, that's more than some of the smaller states in the US.

It can be compared with US states with similar populations.

They have not had a mass shooting since 2001.

All I'm saying is that Switzerland has the 2nd highest gun ownership per capita of any 1st world country (Yemen for example is higher but that's in no way comparable) and it is a flourishing country. They're clearly doing something right.
 
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Illinois has some of the toughest gun laws in the country and yet they have massive amounts of gun violence (Chiraq).
 
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Colombia said:
 
MPLSdunk said:
You forgot about the dudes in Norway who shot up a whole island, what about that one bud? Shooting people in their backs as they're trying to swim away.
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I'm not saying countries with strict gun laws are completely safe from mass shootings, I'm just saying it happens so rarely that I can live my life without feeling the need to own a gun or worry about someone shooting me. You named one mass shooting in a European country and it was in 2011.
And for the record I mentioned Switzerland specifically because it's the only 1st world country that is comparable to the US in terms of gun ownership.
I can't think of any mass shootings in Switzerland, at least not recently. 
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Switzerland has a percentage of the population of the USA, and thus its issues and solutions to issues can't be compared.
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this is a cheap excuse that makes no sense 

a nation of 8 million people is more than enough as a sample size to test human behaviour over gun control 
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Switzerland also doesn't have the wealth disparity/economic inequality that the United States has.
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you are never going to find an example of successful gun control that perfectly fits american culture and population size. at some point you have to stop coming up with reasons why things wont work and take any kind of action. even if it's not efficient it will still bring the country that much closer to fixing the problem, and it it doesnt work then nothing changes. 

perfect solutions do not exist for complex problems. sitting around being negative will never lead to progress. 
 
sea manup said:
you are never going to find an example of successful gun control that perfectly fits american culture and population size. at some point you have to stop coming up with reasons why things wont work and take any kind of action. even if it's not efficient it will still bring the country that much closer to fixing the problem, and it it doesnt work then nothing changes. 

perfect solutions do not exist for complex problems. sitting around being negative will never lead to progress. 
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And this is what's infuriating. Events like this seem to be happening with increaseed frequency. We'll hear the uproar in the coming days and then what? Absolutely nothing.
 
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