Shooting reported at Umpqua Community College in Oregon.....Another one :{

I really hate that people are taking the "war on Christians" angle with this shooting, although I'm not surprised. We're really gonna let the actions of 1 nut job dictate that conversation, huh?

It fits the agenda, a lot of news outlets are running with it.
 
 
[thread="637010"]That would never happen. America will say he deserves a 2nd chance and he had "mental issues"[/thread]
yea... i don't know what america you live in...

but if you kill people on a school campus.... and they say you specifically targeted christians...

you gonna fry son...
I agree with you. I also agree with the death penalty. But bring up the death penalty and look at how many people are against it
 
There's not much you can do about crazy.
You could prevent their craziness not manifesting itself in the form of shooting sprees though by making it nearly impossible to obtain the tool that is necessary to carry out a shooting spree.
 
 
You could prevent their craziness not manifesting itself in the form of shooting sprees though by making it nearly impossible to obtain the tool that is necessary to carry out a shooting spree.
 There's no such thing as "nearly impossible" when talking about obtaining guns here. Maybe on paper. But if Joe Schmo wants to strap up in America, it ain't hard.
 
There's not much you can do about crazy.

You could prevent their craziness not manifesting itself in the form of shooting sprees though by making it nearly impossible to obtain the tool that is necessary to carry out a shooting spree.

People do the nearly impossible everyday b

The only to stop people from getting guns is to stop making them altogether.

Which I highly doubt is going to happen.
 
This is stupid, they are implying that mass shootings are not acts of terrorism, I guess you can't be a terrorist and attack your own country :rolleyes

And the media outlets are making it about the war on Christians because..nvm


But the guy who shoots lil Wayne's tour bus and kills 0 ppl gets charged for terrorism.
 
People do the nearly impossible everyday b

The only to stop people from getting guns is to stop making them altogether.

Which I highly doubt is going to happen.

Only idiots who think banning guns will do something are people who never been around them.
 
Only idiots who think banning guns will do something are people who never been around them.
While I agree, I don't think you have to refer to them as "idiots."
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Maybe misinformed, for the sake of civility.
 
If history has taught us anything, banning something, doesn't really work out the way people want it to...unless you're J.D. Rockefeller .
 
While I agree, I don't think you have to refer to them as "idiots." :lol:

Maybe misinformed, for the sake of civility.

Nah its annoying, dudes will blame guns when dudes are clearly evil and thought out these evil acts and planned them out. Blaming a gun is an easy cop out to not have to talk about the sick culture these mass shooters are created in. Dudes will blame guns on crime in chicago and not the social engineering that created the conditions there.

Its that whole liberal fake smart mess, take an easy way out to band aid and or ignore the root causes for the problems.
 
While I agree, I don't think you have to refer to them as "idiots." :lol:

Maybe misinformed, for the sake of civility.

Nah its annoying, dudes will blame guns when dudes are clearly evil and thought out these evil acts and planned them out. Blaming a gun is an easy cop out to not have to talk about the sick culture these mass shooters are created in. Dudes will blame guns on crime in chicago and not the social engineering that created the conditions there.

Its that whole liberal fake smart mess, take an easy way out to band aid and or ignore the root causes for the problems.

So, what's your solution?
 
Nah its annoying, dudes will blame guns when dudes are clearly evil and thought out these evil acts and planned them out. Blaming a gun is an easy cop out to not have to talk about the sick culture these mass shooters are created in. Dudes will blame guns on crime in chicago and not the social engineering that created the conditions there.

Its that whole liberal fake smart mess, take an easy way out to band aid and or ignore the root causes for the problems.
I'm with you.

Guns are a problem, but they aren't the igniter. We live in a violent society where unfortunately there are plenty of guns to go around allowing these twisted *****s to "express themselves."

I agree it does start with the individual. A+B=C.
 
I'm with you.

Guns are a problem, but they aren't the igniter. We live in a violent society where unfortunately there are plenty of guns to go around allowing these twisted *****s to "express themselves."
I agree it does start with the individual. A+B=C.

Like people will make detailed manifestos on why they did it, plan out ever thing down the the most minute move, prepare advance blue prints on how they will do it, give subtle warnings to their friends and families, and we still say "oh they are just mentally ill, its the guns that are the issue".

Smh
 
I'm not debating you...just more interested in what you have to say regarding the matter. In situations like this, I think it's good to hear perspectives from people on both sides of the coin.

Nah, I meant more so thats a can of worms I dont feel like opening and this site isnt the place for that kind of discussion.
 
Those countries are mostly homogeneous. Sharing and identity is largely why their gun crime rates are different. I do agree everything else you said
nicaragua, chile, el salvadaor are mostly homogenous...

but their sick christian culture causes them to have high poverty and crime
 
Those are colonized people. Plus drugs, guns and Wal-Mart are doing way more harm in central and south America.

I dont think it's apples to apples comparing the colonized to the colonizers in this case.
 
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