Shooting reported at Umpqua Community College in Oregon.....Another one :{

if someone is suicidal, you make sure they don't have a gun in their house.

can they still find a way to get a gun or try another way to kill themselves? sure.

but you still try. and even if it works 50/50, at least you saved some lives.

some of you must be pathetic in real life. pessimistic negative Nancy's who use any chance of failure as an excuse not to try anything.
 
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plus, the majority don't want to outright ban guns. stop making up a straw man argument.

what we want is some tighter controls.

likewise, we're not saying this will stop every act of violence. we're just trying to reduce the frequency of these shootings and the amount of destruction that happens each time.
 
Why are the majority of solutions proposed to help with gun violence focused on mass shootings when mass shootings represent such a small portion of gun violence?
 
plus, the majority don't want to outright ban guns. stop making up a straw man argument.

what we want is some tighter controls.

likewise, we're not saying this will stop every act of violence. we're just trying to reduce the frequency of these shootings and the amount of destruction that happens each time.

illinois has some of the tightest restrictions...and we see how thats working.

Everybody isnt scared to break the law.
 
nicaragua, chile, el salvadaor are mostly homogenous...

but their sick christian culture causes them to have high poverty and crime

Christian culture? How does Christianity lead to crime and poverty? Not the corrupt leaders that steal from their country's coffers that causes the conditions necessary for poverty and crime? Some of you have this beef with religion. While I don't believe there is a war on Xtianity there is certainly a growing hate towards it in this nation. NO ONE in the media is talking about the fact that the shooter targeted Christians.
 
Its crazy how many peoples heads Gwap went over.

What heads did he go over? Inform me genius since you got what he was saying.

And Mike Huckabee made a hell of a point yesterday. Obama spoke about the mass shooting yesterday, but was nowhere to be found the last two weeks when mass shootings took place in Chicago where his career started. Gun control in Chicago hasn't worked and politicians think it'll work on a national scale? These politicians don't live in places where their enacted policies have failed so they don't care. They just put the rhetoric out there.
 
What heads did he go over? Inform me genius since you got what he was saying.

And Mike Huckabee made a hell of a point yesterday. Obama spoke about the mass shooting yesterday, but was nowhere to be found the last two weeks when mass shootings took place in Chicago where his career started. Gun control in Chicago hasn't worked and politicians think it'll work on a national scale? These politicians don't live in places where their enacted policies have failed so they don't care. They just put the rhetoric out there.

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Why are the majority of solutions proposed to help with gun violence focused on mass shootings when mass shootings represent such a small portion of gun violence?
Real spit.

I think most of us know why.
 
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some of you must be pathetic in real life. pessimistic negative Nancy's who use any chance of failure as an excuse not to try anything.
Who are you referring to?
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There is a problem in society where people think they can only be noticed and recognized by doing terrible acts instead of doing their community a greater good. All these mass shooters only craved for attention and their selfish acts are contributing to this disease of irresponsibility and lack of good judgement, which has been perpetuated by the media. Just SMH all around.
 
This is stupid, they are implying that mass shootings are not acts of terrorism, I guess you can't be a terrorist and attack your own country
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And the media outlets are making it about the war on Christians because..nvm
youre only a terrorist if its B on W Crime.. Dyland Roof isnt even label a terrorist.. Not even WoW crime unless its involving bombs
 
what we want is some tighter controls.

What specifically do you want that is different than what Oregon already has on the books? They had already recently tightened their gun laws.

http://news.yahoo.com/oregon-state-had-recently-tightened-gun-laws-234249348.html
how about we start by allowing for more federally funded research on gun violence?

and please don't invoke paranoia in your argument for why we shouldn't.

some of you must be pathetic in real life. pessimistic negative Nancy's who use any chance of failure as an excuse not to try anything.

Who are you referring to? :lol:
I was referring more to that line of argument than to anyone in particular. sorry for phrasing it in that way.

I just don't like it when self-defeating logic is used or when worries of something not working are used as reasons not to try, not just with this gun issue but with anything in life.
 
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Some people just don't value life, that's all it is to it.

I went out a few nights ago. I left the spot at 1:30, and I saw on the news the next day that someone got killed at 2:00 in the parking lot :x not even a sketchy area, well lit, decent area. Adding insult to injury, my boy said that people were out there snapchatting the dead body :smh:
Messy Mya, a YouTuber got shoot leaving his baby shower...People twit pic'D his dead body, son..Didn't even call 911 smh
 
I have lived in Colorado for the last 17 years. I was in a high school about 25 minutes from Columbine and I will never forget the fear and panic I felt that day. Fast forward to the Aurora theatre shooting, which happened at a theatre I frequently went to. The one thing I will say gets lost in these debates is the speed at which these murderers kill people. It seems like they start firing on people before they even have a chance to react or pull out their own firearm.
 
America has gotten use to other stuff just as bad and sometimes worse.

Collectively somebody already mentioned we're a pretty sociopathic community. We'll talk gun control, mourn, get angry, debate other stuff that led to this and then after a week move on to the next thing media is reporting or go back to our entertainment until it happens again. It won't even get as much attention if the shooter is caught and has a trial and later on sentencing. I'd say ppl are already use to it.

This reminds me of that boston bomber Twitter was going crazy for 2 weeks then it died now that the trial came back up I'll see one reweet same with dude of the movie shooting.


It's crazy I used to think ish like this only happened in the Middle East etc etc now that I open my eyes no country is immune to this it's getting so wild now tho
 
 
plus, the majority don't want to outright ban guns. stop making up a straw man argument.

what we want is some tighter controls.

likewise, we're not saying this will stop every act of violence. we're just trying to reduce the frequency of these shootings and the amount of destruction that happens each time.
illinois has some of the tightest restrictions...and we see how thats working.

Everybody isnt scared to break the law.
When is the last time that a middle class (or higher) community endured a mass shooting in Illinois ?
 
When is the last time that a middle class (or higher) community endured a mass shooting in Illinois ?

So to you that means it's working?

If there has been a decrease in these types of shootings in the state due to the reforms made, then how can you argue that it's not working?

I honestly don't know the statistics, but you're being dense here.
 
 
 
plus, the majority don't want to outright ban guns. stop making up a straw man argument.

what we want is some tighter controls.

likewise, we're not saying this will stop every act of violence. we're just trying to reduce the frequency of these shootings and the amount of destruction that happens each time.
illinois has some of the tightest restrictions...and we see how thats working.

Everybody isnt scared to break the law.
When is the last time that a middle class (or higher) community endured a mass shooting in Illinois ?
 
When is the last time that a middle class (or higher) community endured a mass shooting in Illinois ?
So to you that means it's working?
It helps. Better than nothing. From my post earlier, and the previous shootings thread (Missisippi Shootings):

Anyways, stricter gun control may help the mentally unstable folks from retrieving a gun, I believe it should be implemented, but that's just a band-aid fix.

A. You have to look at implementation of a universal health care system so that lower income and mentally unstable individuals are taken care of.

B. A better K-12 system needs to be implemented in public schools in low income neighborhoods. Thus, someone from that public school has the same chance as someone from a well of private school to succeed.

The higher the education rate, the higher the chances of success. More chances of success means less probability of resorting to crime. Less crime correlates to less need for guns and gun violence.

For universal health care, it is another less worry for low income households. The better upbringing of a child, the better the success rate. Again, less probability of resorting to crime, guns, and violence. The same can be said with mentally unstable folks, they can be taken care of early in life because of the easier access to universal health care. Overall, helping them to become a more productive and responsible member of society.
 
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Dense? Because I don't think gun control is working in Chicago?
**** outta here.

You boys can keep harping on these incidents as if they represent the real gun violence problem in this country if you want.
 
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