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There is no real excuse to be tied with OKC but at the same time I know people are gonna act like blake and CP3 haven't missed like 40 games combined.

It's true, and maybe the season is completely different without those injuries, but the fact is we've been playing poorly even with both of them back. Even JJ said it last night - the team has been **** since the all-star break. His words. Also said the only thing he expects consistently from the team now is "terrible defense." LOL. The man has had it.
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There is no real excuse to be tied with OKC but at the same time I know people are gonna act like blake and CP3 haven't missed like 40 games combined.

 

 

your avi lol

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I mean, even before Blake and CP went out, we dropped the BKN game, the Detroit game where we were up in the 4th, the Washington game where we were up in the 4th, and before the AS break we dropped the dallas game on the HB game winner, the philly game where we were up 19 in the 3rd, The minnesota game here when we were up in the 4th,

 

These are games that injuries or not, we have to have. Championship teams keep these kinds of losses to a minimum. Coming into this season, those were games that I felt we couldn't afford to drop like we have in years past. CP and Blake being injured only amplified these games' importance.

 

We win most of those and we're okay right now. But whatever, it is what it is. On to the Cavs tomorrow

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post #3244 of 3627
in the playoffs, everything is magnified, teams really tighten up the loose screws and play better basketball almost across the board. i swear, i wouldnt be as worried/frustrated as i am if the clippers were better on defense and on the glass NOW.

at the same time, the weaknesses that teams cant overcome are magnified as well.

i.e. okc's one man show
gsw lack of interior defense and clutch factor
LAC not having any offensive scheme or crunchtime player to rely on over 6 feet... etc etc


if we can fix this defensive brain fart we are having we may be able to make moves.

at this point, a 6 seed isnt really that bad. if we can beat the rockets in the 1st round and the spurs in the 2nd round (both of which are totally possible) this season can be salvaged.

next season, regardless of playoff outcome (outside of making the finals or winning a title) there needs to be a coaching change IMO. this team is no better today than it was the day vinny del negro was fired, and by that metric, a coaching change must be made. its been 4 years for crying out loud.

the core 3 arent going anywhere (IMO) blake has already expressed his interest in staying with LAC. where can CP3 go next year, start, and have a better shot at a title than LAC? SAS is the only spot i could see him landing. although that would be a good move for him, IMO it doesnt put him that much closer to a title than he already is now being that gsw is still top dog in the west. DJ isnt going anywhere. etc etc
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post #3245 of 3627
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No Lebbywinks, Myrie or K-Love tonight....and I'm still not feeling confident. Could easily see something absurd happening like Deron Williams time warping to 2005 form and Channing Frye hitting 14 threes.
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post #3246 of 3627
Cavs +13 looking like easy money. Might put a couple hundo on it last minute 👀
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What in God's green one is wrong with these dudes? Really looking like they touched the Monstar basketball half the time these days.
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post #3248 of 3627
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Well, I'm glad we are able to pull it together and get an easy W, but it doesn't really tell me much. Just a weird game with the Cavs sitting all their stars.

On to the next one.
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post #3249 of 3627

Just gotta get into a rhythm heading into the playoffs and see how it go *Shrugs*

 

The optimist in me still believes that peak clippers is dangerous in the playoffs, but whatever.

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Just gotta get into a rhythm heading into the playoffs and see how it go *Shrugs*

The optimist in me still believes that peak clippers is dangerous in the playoffs, but whatever.

If we can make up another game on Utah before that next matchup, I'll be a believer.
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If we can make up another game on Utah before that next matchup, I'll be a believer.

 

I ain't gonna lie,

 

I just can't imagine a healthy clipper team losing to Utah 4 times in 7 games after we've straight dominated them. Like the way the Warriors do us, we do them except we dont beat them by 50.


Regardless, for me it was never the first round. (However it will be if we fall to 6th lol) It was always the 2nd round.

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If we can make up another game on Utah before that next matchup, I'll be a believer.

I ain't gonna lie,

I just can't imagine a healthy clipper team losing to Utah 4 times in 7 games after we've straight dominated them. Like the way the Warriors do us, we do them except we dont beat them by 50.


Regardless, for me it was never the first round. (However it will be if we fall to 6th lol) It was always the 2nd round.

Well, unless the Spurs finish with the 1 seed then we have 0 shot at the 2nd round. Just lime you can't imagine us losing to the Jazz, who in their right mind would pick us against the Warriors. If we can keep it under 40 it would be progress. laugh.gif


*Unless KD isn't ready 👀
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Well, unless the Spurs finish with the 1 seed then we have 0 shot at the 2nd round. Just lime you can't imagine us losing to the Jazz, who in their right mind would pick us against the Warriors. If we can keep it under 40 it would be progress. laugh.gif


*Unless KD isn't ready 👀

 

Which is why even an optimistic outlook for us is now a downer |I

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post #3254 of 3627
i still feel that at this point, there is no team in the west that is guaranteed to beat us other than gsw.

hou
sas
utah
okc

we have more than a punchers chance to beat those teams.

the hope for me was always that they would get their scheme and settle in (especially defensively) to compete or beat gsw. but that is not happening. and it aint because of gsw primarily IMO
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The fact that we stay on Nat'l TV is annoying man.

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The fact that we stay on Nat'l TV is annoying man.

Agree.
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post #3257 of 3627

I am scared, I feel like being a fan is some sort of purgatory. I always get excited and hopeful, and always get depressed and angry at the team. But I am thankful for these past few years of winning, but the end is near if we keep this up. 

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I don't know if the end is "near" no matter what happens because of the New CBA.

 

It would be very weird for CP to negotiate that gigantic over 38 max only to not exercise it and leave 60 to 70Ms on the table this summer.

 

Don't think Blake will leave that much on the table this summer either.

 

Those two being back probably means Doc will be back.

 

I mean they could all say **** it and blow it up if we get bounced in the first round but that's a lot of money for Blake and CP to leave on the table.

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I agree, but I feel like another playoffs with no trip to conference finals could mean the end is near for us, CP loves LA, and his kids are young, and I dont see him moving across the country. Blake will stay, but Doc is what i am concerned about. He is a good coach, but how far has he led us? I know we have gotten plagued by injuries, but still he hasn't gotten us too far with our pieces 

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^^^ I feel that some kind of major change is needed. This team as currently constructed has stagnated. I think that CP and Blake will most likely re-sign and I hope they do. I'm moore in favor of moving away from DJ and JJ.

As far as Doc goes, I've made no secret that I don't think he's doing a great job this season. But as someone else on here point out, if you make a change, the question becomes who do you replace him with? I would not be in favor of him being fired just to bring in a retread guy who's already had a few NBA jobs and been just moderately successful. Like a Kevin McHale or Alvin Gentry.

I'd rather see the team take a chance on someone new like an assistant or broadcaster.

And whether he stays as coach or not, Doc should be relieved of his GM duties. I just don't like having one guy wearing both those hats.
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^^^ I feel that some kind of major change is needed. This team as currently constructed has stagnated. I think that CP and Blake will most likely re-sign and I hope they do. I'm moore in favor of moving away from DJ and JJ.

As far as Doc goes, I've made no secret that I don't think he's doing a great job this season. But as someone else on here point out, if you make a change, the question becomes who do you replace him with? I would not be in favor of him being fired just to bring in a retread guy who's already had a few NBA jobs and been just moderately successful. Like a Kevin McHale or Alvin Gentry.

I'd rather see the team take a chance on someone new like an assistant or broadcaster.

And whether he stays as coach or not, Doc should be relieved of his GM duties. I just don't like having one guy wearing both those hats.

 

Most of this I agree with. Moving on from JJ and DJ would actually I think make this team instantly better depending on who replaces DJ. I think Austin Right now can replace JJ as a starting 2 guard moving forward. As I've said before, the DJ / Blake pairing never was a natural fit and this season more than ever, you can clearly see how badly it's effecting blake's game. He never has legit post ups because DJ's guy is always shadowing him and if it isn't that it's JJ Redick is always lingering around waiting to play catch with him. Ugh. And DeAndre Jordan, I must unfortunately say, is an overrated defender, at least from the eye test for me.

 

And as far as Doc goes, I'm not opposed to a coaching change, but I would be cautious with that. Because this is a guy who despite significant injuries during his tenure in LA, has been relatively good. As you said, if we're going to move on from him, I would just like to see who that coach would be because objectively speaking, doc is one of the better coaches in the NBA.

 

And finally, w/ Lawrence Frank in the FO, Doc is only the president in name only basically, and I love Lawrence in this role. Our entire FO was revamped last offseason, and the effects of those are still in progress, one of which, is lessening the load on Doc, and increasing the load on Frank and the other new departments in Basketball operations.

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post #3262 of 3627
Utah lost tonight.

If this team doesn't come out and take care of business tonight then I'm done for the season.

A win tonight puts HCA very much in play.
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uhhh, when did Pierce get back in the rotation? First game in the last couple of games or so where i'm actually sitting down and watching

 

 

sort of.

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Good win.

 

Let's string some **** together man.

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Lol WeJo really some ****

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I know it's against the worst team in the NBA but this was a great performance. Keep it up. That 4 seed is within reach pimp.gif
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Always nice to pound the LOLakers...
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Is it me or do they always come out with a focus and edge against the lakers you don't see against other teams
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Austin Rivers has seemingly been hot for this entire season.


What an improved basketball player he is. If and when we move on from JJ redick this summer, i'm not totally opposed to Austin Moving into that starting 2 role.

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