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At Oak Hill, in Denver, and for USA, yes.

Otherwise, no.
 
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LiCeNseD To BaLL said:
All of this.
If only NBA basketball was FIBA basketball, Melo might of had some patches on that All Star jacket
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That's just so disrespectful, whoever sewed that one little star on there and didn't report to someone higher up, "Ummmm, maybe this isn't such a great idea."

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I voted depends on who you put DeRozan with... But I lean toward Yes.

The fact is he does have talent. His game has grown. And while there are areas he needs to grow, his game has shown growth.

Something to be encouraged about.. He's never been a good 3 point shooter. But this past year was a sign in the right direction.

When he catches and shoots from 3, he shoots 42.2%.
When he pulls up from 3, drops to 20.5%

The catch & shoot is a new trend, up around 10%, but the pull up is around the same 19-21% in the past 3 seasons.

Less he dribbles when he takes a 3, the better.


I looked at Kent Bazemore and Khris Middleton. Kent because he's a FA, and Khris Middleton because I love his game.... Both admittedly better 3 point shooters.

Kent on catch & shoot 39.4% on pull-up 27.5%... Khris 43.6% & 27.5%

Granted they also did it on much more 3 pointers per game. About 2.5 more 3s per game.



The object is to get a motion offense, and find ways to get him open, catch and shoot a bit more.

But he still has to improve from 3, and drop a couple mid-range shots for Catch & Shoot 3s. With his ability to score in the paint, and draw fouls, it improves his efficiency.

He made steps to improving his shot selection, has to continue making those changes.

If he doesn't and reverts back to not shooting 3s at all, then he loses a lot of luster.

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On playoff struggles. The Raptors are a classic not built for the playoffs team. They are talented, at least enough to get wins in the regular season. But their lineups and reserves is really a mishmash of bad building.

Their offense is very rigid. DeRozan is the only guy you would really consider a scorer.

Other than Lowry & DeRozan, and occasionally Jonas (who Lowry / DeRozan have little to no impact on). They are a team of meh with very little impact players for the playoffs.

When Lowry struggles, and he's been really bad. It then impacts DeRozan because the offense stalls.. When DeRozan struggles, it impacts Lowry and around and around we go.

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As for saying DeRozan has no pull whatsoever on players in Free Agency is just basing it because you don't like the player. He isn't KD. Or LeBron. Obviously. But he's still an all-star, who we hear nothing about him being unliked in NBA.

If you were to say Dwight Howard no longer has pull in Free Agency, then that's something we can tangibly put value on.

Signing an All-Star like DeMar entering his prime (while there are better options, I agree. He isn't my first choice, nor is DeMar the first guy I'd go after). Him signing with us, is actually still a good thing for the franchise. You'd get an all-star entering his prime. That will have pull. Team will improve. Which is also good in Free Agency.

You want signs that the team is going in the right direction. DeMar DeRozan would be something tangible.


Let's put it this way, you sign Kent Bazemore, not only are you getting a player that isn't nearly as good as DeMar.... Granted better 3 point shooter, and a better defender. DeMar is the better overall player. Highlights how much of a gap there is on offense between the two outside of Kent, who is a good, but not great 3 point shooter. But also, the pull Bazemore has on Free Agents is pretty much nothing.

If you're Hassan Whiteside... Bazemore isn't moving the needle at all. It could even hurt. If it's DeMar, there's a lot more to consider.

Bazemore is also same age as DeMar.
 
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I didn't even know we had a new poll.

Good lord, $100 milly to Derozan?!

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Yes, I read the response above me.

That is OUTLANDISH to offer.
 
So you watch Demar play, in these playoffs especially, and say to yourself.... man, it would be awesome to have him on my team?

:x :x :x
 
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I voted depends on who you put DeRozan with... But I lean toward Yes.

The fact is he does have talent. His game has grown. And while there are areas he needs to grow, his game has shown growth.

Something to be encouraged about.. He's never been a good 3 point shooter. But this past year was a sign in the right direction.

When he catches and shoots from 3, he shoots 42.2%.
When he pulls up from 3, drops to 20.5%

The catch & shoot is a new trend, up around 10%, but the pull up is around the same 19-21% in the past 3 seasons.

Less he dribbles when he takes a 3, the better.


I looked at Kent Bazemore and Khris Middleton. Kent because he's a FA, and Khris Middleton because I love his game.... Both admittedly better 3 point shooters.

Kent on catch & shoot 39.4% on pull-up 27.5%... Khris 43.6% & 27.5%

Granted they also did it on much more 3 pointers per game. About 2.5 more 3s per game.



The object is to get a motion offense, and find ways to get him open, catch and shoot a bit more.

But he still has to improve from 3, and drop a couple mid-range shots for Catch & Shoot 3s. With his ability to score in the paint, and draw fouls, it improves his efficiency.

He made steps to improving his shot selection, has to continue making those changes.

If he doesn't and reverts back to not shooting 3s at all, then he loses a lot of luster.
On playoff struggles. The Raptors are a classic not built for the playoffs team. They are talented, at least enough to get wins in the regular season. But their lineups and reserves is really a mishmash of bad building.

Their offense is very rigid. DeRozan is the only guy you would really consider a scorer.

Other than Lowry & DeRozan, and occasionally Jonas (who Lowry / DeRozan have little to no impact on). They are a team of meh with very little impact players for the playoffs.

When Lowry struggles, and he's been really bad. It then impacts DeRozan because the offense stalls.. When DeRozan struggles, it impacts Lowry and around and around we go.
As for saying DeRozan has no pull whatsoever on players in Free Agency is just basing it because you don't like the player. He isn't KD. Or LeBron. Obviously. But he's still an all-star, who we hear nothing about him being unliked in NBA.

If you were to say Dwight Howard no longer has pull in Free Agency, then that's something we can tangibly put value on.

Signing an All-Star like DeMar entering his prime (while there are better options, I agree. He isn't my first choice, nor is DeMar the first guy I'd go after). Him signing with us, is actually still a good thing for the franchise. You'd get an all-star entering his prime. That will have pull. Team will improve. Which is also good in Free Agency.

You want signs that the team is going in the right direction. DeMar DeRozan would be something tangible.


Let's put it this way, you sign Kent Bazemore, not only are you not getting a player that isn't nearly as good as DeMar.... Granted better 3 point shooter, and a better defender. DeMar is the better overall player. Highlights how much of a gap there is on offense between the two outside of Kent, who is a good, but not great 3 point shooter. But also, the pull Bazemore has on Free Agents is pretty much nothing.

If you're Hassan Whiteside... Bazemore isn't moving the needle at all. It could even hurt. If it's DeMar, there's a lot more to consider.

Bazemore is also same age as DeMar.
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Great breakdown, thanks.

My main gripe with him is his shooting and his pull ups off the dribble, so those catch and shoot numbers are encouraging and we know he can finish at the rim/get to the line.

Another concern would be his ability to guard 3s which would allow him to play alongside Clarkson and Russ.

I still don't think he's ideal, I would prefer a 3&D wing but I see how it could work.
 
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Okay. Then you have $60mil. How do you spend it?

No trades for Butler, George or Cousins. They're not realistic.

Let's safely assume KD, LeBron and Nic Batum are unlikely to leave as well. Because that's a pretty safe bet.

So let's play "Spend the Buss' money"

*Remember what you don't use, probably goes to Clarkson. And if you spend it all, then 2017 we're capped out.
 
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All 60 mil doesn't all have to be spent this summer don't know why you guys act like it has to be.

Whiteside is priority number 1. Bazemore or Barnes if all the other guys are of the table in addition to keeping the pick and call it a offseason. Fill out the rest of the roster with 1 year guys and position yourself for 2017 free agency. Feel like I've written this out 100 times now. Under no circumstances does Derozan need to be in the plan. NONE.
 
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Just save the bread, don't overspend for someone that won't fit.

The funny thing is if the team just kept the same players we've had over the past few years, we would actually be ok. Everyone the Lakers have parted ways with over the past 3 or so years was in this year's playoffs, except for Pau Gasol. That's saying something
 
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Okay. Then you have $60mil. How do you spend it?

No trades for Butler, George or Cousins. They're not realistic.

Let's safely assume KD, LeBron and Nic Batum are unlikely to leave as well. Because that's a pretty safe bet.

So let's play "Spend the Buss' money"

*Remember what you don't use, probably goes to Clarkson. And if you spend it all, then 2017 we're capped out.
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Harrison Barnes or Baze

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And I don't like Cousins. He's a cancer, he's not worth trading for bc there's no way you can say that he would finally get it if he hasn't done yet in his life
 
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