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I'm sorry math hurts your head LTB. No place for that in sports.
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Klay may not get to the line as often as Demar but at least he opens up the floor, which is essential for today's game

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oh for real? even during the regular season, too? guess they don't play solid defense in the regular season? lowry's playing like trash this playoff as well, but i don't see people say anything bad about him. what happens if demar breaks out the rest of the playoffs and does well, do u suddenly want him after a few good games?

Well he'll probably be gone by the end of next week so we went get to see.
 
I guess its time for me to swallow my lakerness and age ..I can't believe we are going to have to beg second tier stars and throw money to play for us..Six years ago we were getting rings now...smh
 
As good as klay...mathematically.

Thing about drawing free throws, you're relying on the refs to bail you out. A completely uncontrollable variable. There's no algorithm for "the refs are letting them play" . I don't think it's a coincidence that harden boogie and derozan are all 1st options on 3 of the most fraudulent teams in the league.

You said yourself that you'd take klay 10/10 times. So no, they aren't just as good.

I'm not sure the Raptors are a fraudulent team. More so a team tapped out after Lowry & DeRozan. This is the highest they can get with all of that personnel. That's a different discussion for a different day.

I said there are plenty of reasons why I take Klay over DeRozan. And that he was the better player.

Saying DeRozan played as well offensively this season =/= He is as good of a player, or better.

Because if you asked me about last year, I'd say Klay was clearly better on offense.

But with DeRozan changing his game ever so slightly, which is true. Don't even need analytics to prove that. He was able to create a much more efficient season offensively.


Hence DeMar is a changing player, and is better this year than he was in years prior. Which is encouraging for a guy who is 26, and entering his prime
 
Horrible comparison.

Soundin like Daryl Morey with useless analytics. Your team would end up lookin just like the current Rockets too with how much you base your opinions on players with advanced calculus and biophysics statistics.

Taking the same amount of shots as someone else does not mean they make the same impact on both ends of a basketball court.

Try using live observation of basketball games more and less googling of OSTEFSCANZ ratings on a webpage to compare players and their skills.


You do know the Warriors are an analytic team right? Their entire team is built on an analytic approach. Draymond Green didn't get to play Center in the Lineup of Death on some whim.

Ahhhh yes because live observations is the only way to look at things. If your eyes tell you something is so... It must be.

It's called a weighted approach.

You take what you see, and you see if it holds true. You know if you have a hypothesis, you test it. See if it holds true.

Hence why I said it's mystifying that DeMar DeRozan was as good offensively than Klay when everything eye ball test shows you that he shouldn't be.


I'm sorry math hurts your head LTB. No place for that in sports.

I wish we could take polygraph tests to see exactly how much Demar Derozan you actually watched this season.

Bet you're basing 99% of your judgment on him off this "math" your googling. No one with two eyes who watches basketball would compare Derozans skill to Klay Thompson other than them being shooting guards who find a way to get to the free throw line, that makes them comparable with value as basketball players? Yeah... That hurts my head trying to figure out, you're right.

Save that eye ball bs for someone else who will fall for your frontin. You ain't basing any of your argument on actual recent live footage of Derozan, if you were your posts would convey an actual weighted approach.

Nice try though, Morey Jr.

Keep pumping out those Omeds Efficiency ratings though to prove to us how he's just as good as Klay Thompson, that's definitely not going to hurt anyone's head trying to understand.
 
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Klay may not get to the line as often as Demar but at least he opens up the floor, which is essential for today's game

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Absolutely. I 100% agree with you.

That's one of the biggest reasons why I take Klay over DeRozan 10 times out of 10. Along with being 2 year behind in experience. Better defense. Hence, why I said he's the better player now and in the future.


Going back to the first post. Just wanted to illustrate something about DeRozan's season. And perhaps why it is favorable long term for DeRozan
 
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Klay may not get to the line as often as Demar but at least he opens up the floor, which is essential for today's game

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Of course he opens up the floor, he's an athletic shooting guard capable of scoring and drawing fouls at an above average rate.

No ones saying he's a D League talent. He's good.

He's just not worth panicking and giving away max money to prior to taking a deep breath and evaluating more well rounded players.

That's a well balanced opinion that some math wizards don't seem to be able to comprehend behind those massive chalk boards of formulas.
 
I actually do hope he plays better and the Raptors get out of the 1st rd this year so they'll max him with more money and make this a moot point.
 
 
Klay may not get to the line as often as Demar but at least he opens up the floor, which is essential for today's game

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He's just not worth panicking and giving away max money to prior to taking a deep breath and evaluating more well rounded players.

That's a well balanced opinion that some math wizards don't seem to be able to comprehend behind those massive chalk boards of formulas.
At some point though, you kinda have to get SOMEONE, anyone to take the money.

Whether it be Derozan, Horford, KD, batum, Lee.. anyone. 
 
Why stop there, offer Wade, Joe Johnson and everybody the ******** that's basically what they've been doing anyway.
 
Who do yall wanna trot out there though?

Sign a bunch of minimum guys and then ***** that we suck? 

He's 26 and we'd be paying for prime years. Sure he's not the best, but he's someone, he'll help us improve our record.

I mean I'll take ZERO FA's and happily lose the pick if we just upgrade the goddamn coach.  
 
 
Klay may not get to the line as often as Demar but at least he opens up the floor, which is essential for today's game

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He's just not worth panicking and giving away max money to prior to taking a deep breath and evaluating more well rounded players.


That's a well balanced opinion that some math wizards don't seem to be able to comprehend behind those massive chalk boards of formulas.
At some point though, you kinda have to get SOMEONE, anyone to take the money.

Whether it be Derozan, Horford, KD, batum, Lee.. anyone. 

Bro I wouldn't be mad if we landed Derozan, it's not the end of the world. It's firepower. He's talented. Cool.

But what some of us are saying is we'd prefer we go after the OTHER more well rounded free agents first, not panick and throw the farm at DeroZAN as if he's the only young SG on earth that will be available to us the next few years.

Go after Batum, Whiteside... Make trade offers for Butler... Etc etc... See if you can make more defensive minded acquisitions first, then go ahead and target Demar.

He just shouldn't be top priority, like Mamba said there is and will be more players who can do what he does in the near future. He's good, but he's not irreplaceable good, not for 25 million a year...

But hey, he's younger than Melo and has a ceiling and room for growth, so sure... If that max offer Melo got ends up going to Demar instead, I won't be mad.

I'd rather have a 26 year old Demar than a 33 year old Melo for 4-5 years.

Does that make sense? Srs... I think that's pretty rational :rolleyes
 
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For the record...im only on board with DD as long as we keep the pick(auto fill 1 hole at sf) AND sign 1 of horford or whiteside...id also "settle" for DD+1 of horford/whiteside&losing the pick...IF we lose the pick...strike out on a C and DD is the only FA we bring in and a couple fillers...then yes...55+ losses again.
 
 
 
 
Klay may not get to the line as often as Demar but at least he opens up the floor, which is essential for today's game

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He's just not worth panicking and giving away max money to prior to taking a deep breath and evaluating more well rounded players.


That's a well balanced opinion that some math wizards don't seem to be able to comprehend behind those massive chalk boards of formulas.
At some point though, you kinda have to get SOMEONE, anyone to take the money.

Whether it be Derozan, Horford, KD, batum, Lee.. anyone. 
Bro I wouldn't be mad if we landed Derozan, it's not the end of the world. It's firepower. He's talented. Cool.

But what some of us are saying is we'd prefer we go after the OTHER more well rounded free agents first, not panick and throw the farm at DeroZAN as if he's the only young SG on earth that will be available to us the next few years.

Go after Batum, Whiteside... Make trade offers for Butler... Etc etc... See if you can make more defensive minded acquisitions first, then go ahead and target Demar.

He just shouldn't be top priority, like Mamba said there is and will be more players who can do what he does in the near future. He's good, but he's not irreplaceable good, not for 25 million a year...

But hey, he's younger than Melo and has a ceiling and room for growth, so sure... If that max offer Melo got ends up going to Demar instead, I won't be mad.

I'd rather have a 26 year old Demar than a 33 year old Melo for 4-5 years.
I completely agree with all of this. 
 
Trade away MULTIPLE assets for Jimmy Butler rather than signing Demar and keeping those players?

That's a plan LTB? You would support that move?
 
Trade away MULTIPLE assets for Jimmy Butler rather than signing Demar and keeping those players?

That's a plan LTB? You would support that move? 
Clarkson and the 3rd pick is the offer. 

anything more they can kiss my ***. 
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If we get 1-2 it's a non starter, I'm keeping the pick.

3rd pick, I'm looking like hell to trade it.  
 
Trade away MULTIPLE assets for Jimmy Butler rather than signing Demar and keeping those players?

That's a plan LTB? You would support that move?

You wouldn't trade Clarkson and the 3rd pick for Jimmy Butler man?

You Foreals dawg?

Who the hell you want, Buddy instead?

And I swear you're trolling if that's all you got out of my post. At least Kal read and understood the main point.
 
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The funniest thing... Is nowhere did I say DeRozan should be Target #1.

Vividly recall earlier in the season that I had 4 guys ahead of DeRozan (KD, Batum, Horford, Whiteside)

Also still feel the same way.
 
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If we end up 3rd, I'm desperately trying to package that for an established (preferably defensive) player. 
 
Man..i wouldnt mind 3rd AT ALL. it becomes an AUTO trade in a package for an established player that will fill a need and make immediate impact.

So, yes...i would 100% trade it in a package for jimmy butler and then sign DD(assuming 1 of the players is JC in a S&T) and then one of the Centers would be the cherry.

I like how nobody is entertaining KD in their roster "scenarios"...lol..yes..i know its 3-5%(u never know what hes thinkin on the inside..."pick up where kobe left off+room for 1 more max+developing kids")...
 
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