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Nets finally got a win tonight. Probably won't get another until the end of December though.
 
We could easily be 5-3 right now.....MIN DEN NYK ORL losses

But hey if all this losing gets Byron canned, it'll be worth it
 
D-Fish drawing up plays for Porzingis to hit game winners (tho it didn't count) even with Melo on the floor

And this dumb **** Scott drawing up isos for Lou Williams
 
Can we at least wait and see what kind of product UK puts on the floor? :nerd:

:smokin

(Hopefully less of the DMC/Rondo products, and more of the Eyebrows/KAT products. Even a little Meeks/Patrick Patterson coming the Lakers way would be decent. :nerd: )
 
Can we at least wait and see what kind of product UK puts on the floor? :nerd:

:smokin

(Hopefully less of the DMC/Rondo products, and more of the Eyebrows/KAT products. Even a little Meeks/Patrick Patterson coming the Lakers way would be decent. :nerd: )

Nope don't care Ben Simmons is the guy.
 
Can we at least wait and see what kind of product UK puts on the floor? :nerd:

:smokin

(Hopefully less of the DMC/Rondo products, and more of the Eyebrows/KAT products. Even a little Meeks/Patrick Patterson coming the Lakers way would be decent. :nerd: )

Nope don't care Ben Simmons is the guy.

This

Skal looks like Hasheem Thabeet man.

Wouldn't mind Brandon Ingram also.
 
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I felt Lakers should have went after Rondo after Dallas. With what he's been doing imagine....

We draft Okafor, still have the other pieces and Rondo running point.

Kobe would never get one on ones and have even better looks.
 
Nance looks impressive out there. Playing great defense, hitting mid range Js and getting O rebs. Dude doesn't even look like a rookie tonight
 
Can we at least wait and see what kind of product UK puts on the floor? :nerd:

:smokin

(Hopefully less of the DMC/Rondo products, and more of the Eyebrows/KAT products. Even a little Meeks/Patrick Patterson coming the Lakers way would be decent. :nerd: )

Nope don't care Ben Simmons is the guy.
Thinking too far ahead, but he's not a good mix if you believe in Randle-Russell-Clarkson.
 
I hope we win 30 games and keep our pick. I truly do.

But the realist in me, is confident we lose our pick, even if we are 20 wins bad.


But I caution you about the draft when you have so many young players, and point you to the problem that teams who are stuck in the lottery year after year face, and why many of them stay in the lottery.

1. They draft for fit / position of need over best player available, and they end up missing out on future all-stars. We have the problem of having PG, SG & PF occupied by young guys who are the future core.

You look at the top 10 in draft express 6 of 10 could potential be a problem fitting (Skal because he's too skinny to be a Center, Ben Simmons is a combo forward who ends up at the 4 because he won't be a good enough shooter at the 3 and sounds very much like Julius Randle, Bender from Maccabi is a tall lanky 4 a la Kristaps, Murray from Kentucky is a combo guard, Dunn from Providence is a point, Ellenson from Marquette is a 4).

So any of those 6 in the top 3 picks would be drafted to either be a backup or make one of the 3 core guys we have backups. That's not ideal.

But it's also not ideal, if you go best fit, you may reach, you may end up drafting someone who doesn't have the ability for the pick you made, and you waste that draft, your team doesn't get any better.



2. Or you draft best player available, you run the risk of hurting the guys you do have's development. Or even hurting the development of the guy you just drafted. Sometimes the team then opts to go trade away one of the older prospects they have for half price, and go back a few pegs and re-start the process.



But it could all work out for us. We win 30 games, get a top 3 pick, and end up with the Best Player Available at that pick, and he's a great fit.
 
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We aren't winning 30 games.


So any of those 6 in the top 3 picks would be drafted to either be a backup or make one of the 3 core guys we have backups. That's not ideal.

:lol: man stop. Stop reading Draft Express in November and deciding that's what's what. You haven't even seen any of those players do anything yet, relax.
 
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Well they didn't go best player available in this past draft they went with a project not concerned for need or fit so we'll see how it plays out.

I'm of the mindset you always take the best player and figure it out later.
 
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As for the current team we have..

1. Randle needs to improve as a FT shooter. 75% would be optimal considering he can get to the line a lot because he plays bully ball. But 66% is the bare minimum he should be at. It's a small sample size of course and affected really by going 5-15 in 3 games versus and 14-21 in the other 5. So he can get to that 2/3 minimum mark. Just has to stay consistent on his FT.

2. I believe there's a way to perfectly balance Russell on offense as a scorer. A shot a quarter in the paint, a shot a quarter from midrange, and a shot from 3 a quarter.

Even if the paint shots are him getting a pick to his left and using his body to pin the guy to his right as he gets to the paint that's fine.

Midrange normally just off the pick and a nice pull up shot. Where his problem is with this, is he does tend to pull up when he has the ability to take it a few steps into the paint. My guess is he sees someone near the basket, and is unwilling to take it in because it will be a contest 10 footer versus an uncontested 15 footer.

But of course, the 3 and midrange need to be hit consistently to allow the ability to get to the paint with more ease.

3. Okafor would be a horrible fit with Clarkson & Randle.

First off Russell, Clarkson & Randle allow you to get the ball out quickly and try to steal some transition points. All 3 can handle being a transition ball handler. Okafor would be the primary scorer if here, and considering that Byron loves the post so much, we'd be a half court offense regardless if there was a transition opportunity or not.

Randle would have to almost always play weakside if Okafor has the ball. Randle's midrange is not good enough for his defender to not slide down to double Okafor. Thus taking Okafor out of play. So if Okafor has the ball and he will a lot, Randle would have to play weakside. Which means he'll be doing nothing unless he's getting an offensive rebound at this point in his development. Also Okafor will clog the paint even worse than Hibbert does. Hibbert knows he's not an offensive threat, so he will take himself out of many plays and try to get a rebound / second chance point. Jahlil will be looking for the ball in the low post. That severely limits what Randle could do with the ball in his hands.

Also the defense would be even worse than what it is now. Say what you will about Hibbert, he is still an above average rim protector. Only reason we are in these games, is we get some timely defense from Roy. Sometimes Metta. Sometimes Nance. And last night Russell made a great play that kept Orlando from making an easy bunny in the last minute.

Yes, we could have made a mistake by going Russell. Who knows still far too early to tell.

Okafor was / is a project as well. More NBA ready, but you're not winning anything with him either. Poor defender, poor FT shooter. Need the right system around Okafor.
But we didn't necessarily reach, we took a consensus # 3 pick at # 2. And did so with our other prospects in mind.

But like the lottery team conundrum, best fit versus best player. Either way could have its downsides.
 
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Where exactly does Randle operate now when he's not bringing the ball up the floor? Isn't it primarily on the other side when he's not running pick N roll which is a rarity it seems? I'm sorry the defense wouldn't have been that much worse we're at the bottom of the league now with the one of the best rim protector in the league. Jah has already improved somewhat with his individual defense from Duke.

Like I said before you take the guy that's going to walk in averaging 20/7 everytime. The concerns you have about fit of Jah and Randle can also be applied to D'Lo & Clarkson based on what we've seen so far.
 
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You wanna clarify why we could be terrible and get a top 3 pick, we won't be able to draft a player to fit with DLo/Clarkson/Randle

But if we win 30 and get a top 3 pick, we could go BPA and that player fits great?

All in the same post. Can you break that down for me?

Then fill me in on Skal bein too skinny (he's 18) and Simmons never bein a good enough shooter (he's 18)

Are their skill sets locked in for life, or will they be allowed to grow and develop as humans? :lol:

C'mon man. :lol:
 
We could be fine either way. What I'm saying is it could be best case scenario all the way around. We could be 20 wins and get lucky keep the pick and find best fit and BPA. We could be 30 wins luck into pick get best fit and BPA available. Was really just saying that it could be fine regardless.

Wasn't saying that one scenario was better than the other really.

I was just highlighting that when you have a bunch of young guys like we do, drafting becomes much more tricky and you can see it in the teams that are stuck in the lottery every year.

But it's all for naught, we're losing the pick.
 
They'll be a bottom 3 team record wise, I have no doubt. Just a matter of Mitch and Co not being delusional and assuring we maximize the odds by their personnel moves. The roster is void talent wise and poorly constucted and coached, no reason to think with the schedule we have coming up that we'll even sniff 6 wins by New Years time.
 
Who knows. It usually sorts itself it.

But chances are and at least how I saw the season going, we'll look like a 20 win team for a while, and as the 3 young guys get more experience and get comfortable in their game and together, they'll keep pushing the win total up.

But like the last couple years a timely injury can kill all of that.
 
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Where exactly does Randle operate now when he's not bringing the ball up the floor? Isn't it primarily on the other side when he's not running pick N roll which is a rarity it seems? I'm sorry the defense wouldn't have been that much worse we're at the bottom of the league now with the one of the best rim protector in the league. Jah has already improved somewhat with his individual defense from Duke.

Like I said before you take the guy that's going to walk in averaging 20/7 everytime. The concerns you have about fit of Jah and Randle can also be applied to D'Lo & Clarkson based on what we've seen so far.
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Where exactly does Randle operate now when he's not bringing the ball up the floor? Isn't it primarily on the other side when he's not running pick N roll which is a rarity it seems? I'm sorry the defense wouldn't have been that much worse we're at the bottom of the league now with the one of the best rim protector in the league. Jah has already improved somewhat with his individual defense from Duke.

Like I said before you take the guy that's going to walk in averaging 20/7 everytime. The concerns you have about fit of Jah and Randle can also be applied to D'Lo & Clarkson based on what we've seen so far.
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Mamba doesn't really need facts P, let him cook.
 
E, I hear ya.

But not every team stays stuck in lottery forever. OKC, GS, LAC all got out just fine.

We will too. With or without the pick. With, will just make it that much quicker/easier.
 
E, I hear ya.

But not every team stays stuck in lottery forever. OKC, GS, LAC all got out just fine.

We will too. With or without the pick. With, will just make it that much quicker/easier.

One can just hope we end up churning along late in the season. Get the Cavs special.

And then be done with this.

I'm sick of losing.
 
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