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[sea manup]

I wouldnt call playing for the knicks a perfect situation for anyone

dfish is close to bscott levels of terrible

KP is just taking advantage and making the most of what he's been given 

 

[essential1]

I wouldnt call playing for the knicks a perfect situation for anyone

dfish is close to bscott levels of terrible

KP is just taking advantage and making the most of what he's been given 

Guy who fits the triangle. Guy who has a premier scorer on the floor with him.

Those are 2 huge things that are huge for him.

Every other team with exception of probably Pistons because he'd fit the SVG mold. Would present challenges that could have a negative impact.

Maybe he'd still be as good. But In my mind, I doubt he'd have nearly this impact on 8 of the other top 10 teams.

Just the right system and right players around him to put him in a place to succeed. But I'm glad for him that he took advantage.

 

[sea manup]

if he were to swap places with julius I dont see his numbers per touch dropping too much

a lot of his points come from shots that randle can take any time he wants, mid range and from 3

other than that he gets a few post ups per game

kobe is not as good as melo in 2015 but you could argue that he knows and is way better at getting talented big men in spots where they can score

of course it gets tricky trying to figure out how to play randle and KP

but if KP were to replace julius on our roster this season I dont see him being that different than what he is in NY 

 

[essential1]

But you're saying if KP replaces Randle. That means the way you're saying KP succeeds is if We draft Porzingis then trade Randle when his stock was super low.

That's just not smart. And no matter how good KP would have done. I'd be furious over that move because it's just a bad use of assets.

My POV is that not having say a 30 point a night threat would allow you to cheat on KP. And who would punish you if you were to cheat and go after KP? Clarkson? 37 year old Kobe? No Melo just allows you to focus more energy onto him.

But even if you do get him and best case scenario which we agree is without Randle. It isn't worth it. And for that reason I'd never say they screwed up by passing on KP. Because it just isn't the right fit and in order to make it that. You'd have to start mismanaging assets and lottery picks to create that fit.

 

[sea manup]

im not saying trade for, or should have drafted KP

im just saying that in the purely hypothetical situation where we have him instead of randle, I see him putting up the same numbers as he currently is on the knicks

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

im not saying trade for, or should have drafted KP

im just saying that in the purely hypothetical situation where we have him instead of randle, I see him putting up the same numbers as he currently is on the knicks

That could be true, but it's value for discussion is limited because the situation involves Randle. I'm happy with what Randle has shown in his first year playing, I think we all are. Porzingis i'm sure will have his own share of success where he's at and that's okay too.

 

[Lizakers]

It's like the Spurs saying why draft Duncan, we have Robinson? Makes no sense

 

[essential1]

It's like the Spurs saying why draft Duncan, we have Robinson? Makes no sense

One was a PF. The other was a Center.

One was a generational talent. Clear # 1. And David Robinson was toward the end.

Your comparison makes no sense.

 

[lovehateself]

Ok, I'll say it
Porzingis would still have an impact with MDA at the helm

 

[MVP]

They drafted a combo guard and we already had a combo guard.

 

[essential1]

Combo guards play 2 positions. That's 48 minutes a piece to play with.
Also the biggest knock on Clarkson's offense is he is not a true PG. And may not be suited to be primary ball handler that has to get everyone else involved.
You tell me what position Julius Randle and Kristaps Porzingis can play. And if you say Center. I am about to laugh at you.

96 minutes to play 2 guys. Versus 48 minutes to play 2 guys. So you're going to use Back to back Lottery picks to fill up 48 minutes.

Yeah that's a similar comparison.

 

[Lizakers]

One was a PF. The other was a Center.

One was a generational talent. Clear # 1. And David Robinson was toward the end.

Your comparison makes no sense.

So you're saying Julius and Porzingis are one in the same????

6'8 vs 7'2

Draft the talent worry about the roster later

 

[essential1]

One was a PF. The other was a Center.

One was a generational talent. Clear # 1. And David Robinson was toward the end.

Your comparison makes no sense.

So you're saying Julius and Porzingis are one in the same????

6'8 vs 7'2

Draft the talent worry about the roster later

Porzingis is not a center. Just because he is a 7'2", does not make him a center.

What I was saying is they play the same position.. Where as Timmy & David did not. And David was winding it down.

Also there wasn't anyone but Chad Ford saying take Porzingis # 2. So you wouldn't have been drafting talent. At least with wanting to draft Jahlil, even if it's a bad fit. I get it. Porzingis there wasn't a single person but Ford saying that he was the 2nd best prospect.

 

[JCMojica24]

Porzingis is not a center. Just because he is a 7'2", does not make him a center.

What I was saying is they play the same position.. Where as Timmy & David did not. And David was winding it down.

Also there wasn't anyone but Chad Ford saying take Porzingis # 2. So you wouldn't have been drafting talent. At least with wanting to draft Jahlil, even if it's a bad fit. I get it. Porzingis there wasn't a single person but Ford saying that he was the 2nd best prospect.

Mychal Thompson was always high on Porzingis

 

[kal-el-8]

Porzingis is not a center. Just because he is a 7'2", does not make him a center.

What I was saying is they play the same position.. Where as Timmy & David did not. And David was winding it down.

Also there wasn't anyone but Chad Ford saying take Porzingis # 2. So you wouldn't have been drafting talent. At least with wanting to draft Jahlil, even if it's a bad fit. I get it. Porzingis there wasn't a single person but Ford saying that he was the 2nd best prospect.

Mychal Thompson was always high on Porzingis

Really?
Sigh....



Mychal also thought the Lakers would start 10-2 and also thought Manziel and Tebow would be generational talents.

You're better then that.

 

[mamba2481]

Obviously you would end up having both if you drafted porzongis and positioning would be a concern.

But if I had to choose I'd rather have porzongis over randle.

So I would've drafted porzingis and figured out what to do with randle later.

 

[SORIANOTRON]

**** yall talking about porzingis in here for?

 

[essential1]

**** yall talking about porzingis in here for?

Because everybody is saying they would have drafted him.

 

[delete1234]

Yeah right [emoji]128580[/emoji][emoji]128580[/emoji][emoji]128580[/emoji] like they knew he was gon beast

 

[had pants]

 

[CP1708]

^


That is awesome.

 

[mj 23]

Thread would've been up in flames on draft day and everyone would have laughed if Mitch would have took Porzingis.

Enough with the "we should have" talk let's focus on our current and not worry about other prospects.

 

[pmatic]

Speaking of hypotheticals, seeing Boss and Aminu tonight.

 

[Lizakers]

Ya we would be lit on draft day but by now we'd be ecstatic as opposed to still being up in the air about DLO

hypotheticals about MDA went on for pages, can't we have some fun about Porzingis?

 

[essential1]

Ya we would be lit on draft day but by now we'd be ecstatic as opposed to still being up in the air about DLO

hypotheticals about MDA went on for pages, can't we have some fun about Porzingis?

No because there's nothing that indicates he'd be as effective here as he is in New York. Two entirely different scenarios, and plenty that helps Kristaps in NY be effective, does not exist here. Not to mention he'd be playing maybe 24 minutes.


Furthermore, There's nothing to be up in the air about Russell for.. Yes, there's some things that he needs to improve on, but he's still playing just fine. The normal rookie has huge holes in their game at this point, and for the most part that's bearing true this year for plenty of guys. He's playing in line with the contemporaries of the PG position of years passed in their first dozen games or so.


And for all the **** he gets. And for saying he doesn't care, doesn't have the work ethic, is a diva. Which all have been proven otherwise many times. It was glossed over in here, but Russell was at a D-Fenders game on Saturday Night. He doesn't and didn't need to. But there he was. Kobe praised his work ethic. Playing with 4 guys who handle the ball more than him. For a coach who is an ***, and seems to have an axe to grind with him.

ALL OF THAT.. And he's still playing better than Mudiay.



October & November of their Rookie Careers.

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Russell per 36... 14.3 / 5.1 / 3.7 / 2.2 on 39.8% shooting.