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Disappointed in your response seaman
Was expecting some type of whit, gif, or humor
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I'm sure most of team tank has said I'd the kids end up playing well and winning games, cool. If sucks but ok. But when it's Lou Williams, like Nick Young before him when MDA was here, then we have a problem.
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It was Anthony Brown, Russell's stretch to 6 minutes and Randles's hustle for boards that was a large part of the reason we won. Yes Lou Will does get some of the credit. But it was the young guys who did the majority of it.
But 2 things...
1. Russell would have provided just as much production and far better defense. Lou Will was bad last night.
2.4 young guys and 1 veteran were on the court for long stretches, including to close the game.
And before you say trade all the vets. That's disastrous. Especially if Byron is still here. The vets do the bulk of the coaching, and settling the young players down. How disastrous is having all young players, the Sixers even had to do about face and pick up a veteran because of how detrimental it was to everyone.
You want your cake. 2nds and 3rds and don't want to gain weight.
But 2 things...
1. Russell would have provided just as much production and far better defense. Lou Will was bad last night.
2.4 young guys and 1 veteran were on the court for long stretches, including to close the game.
And before you say trade all the vets. That's disastrous. Especially if Byron is still here. The vets do the bulk of the coaching, and settling the young players down. How disastrous is having all young players, the Sixers even had to do about face and pick up a veteran because of how detrimental it was to everyone.
You want your cake. 2nds and 3rds and don't want to gain weight.
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Down 81-74 with a like 5 minutes left, Lou Williams who'd had a terrible game suddenly gets hot as he's apt to do. The kids were playing well at points, but it was an awful game to watch until the very end and we were down for the entire night save twice, 74-72 abs at the very end.
These delusions of what this team actually is and the results that have bared themselves out is pretty telling. With the easiest schedule halfway through the year we've won 9 games. Kobe pulled back about 3 weeks in and now is in and out of the lineup.
The young guys have played better, but is it necessarily translating to great team play or wins at a much higher rate than before, no. 3-22 in the first 25 games. 6-9 since, great improvement right? Not really when you realize 3 of those wins are against teams that are as bad or worse than us (PHI, PHO, NO sans AD). So honestly I'm not worried, the schedule one of the toughest in the league to close out; hopefully Mitch will learn from his mistakes and sell the vets off at the right time and the young guys are continuing to play and develop. So ya, in confident to have my cake, get seconds, thirds, and a big glass of milk to wash it down.
These delusions of what this team actually is and the results that have bared themselves out is pretty telling. With the easiest schedule halfway through the year we've won 9 games. Kobe pulled back about 3 weeks in and now is in and out of the lineup.
The young guys have played better, but is it necessarily translating to great team play or wins at a much higher rate than before, no. 3-22 in the first 25 games. 6-9 since, great improvement right? Not really when you realize 3 of those wins are against teams that are as bad or worse than us (PHI, PHO, NO sans AD). So honestly I'm not worried, the schedule one of the toughest in the league to close out; hopefully Mitch will learn from his mistakes and sell the vets off at the right time and the young guys are continuing to play and develop. So ya, in confident to have my cake, get seconds, thirds, and a big glass of milk to wash it down.
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I want losses to increase our chances of keeping the pick. Not because I want to stockpile young players who may or may not be all-star level players in 5 years. BUT because it will give us an extra asset that can be used to improve the team.
We may win less than 20 games this year , so why should we not want to get a high draft pick as a reward for enduring this garbage??
We may win less than 20 games this year , so why should we not want to get a high draft pick as a reward for enduring this garbage??
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Praying for ben Simmons next year [emoji]128591[/emoji]
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He wasn't hot.. He was 3 for 7. And was scored on play after play.
Many of our runs were aided by Randle & Nance on the boards.
See the possession at 1:55-1:50. Randle def rebound, Clarkson missed layup, Randle offsenive rebound and score. 89-88.
Tyreke Evans misses 2 free throws.
Lou Will puts us up 90-89, on a tough shot.
Then a defensive breakdown by our guards, it was most likely Lou Will, but don't remember the bucket too well leads to a Holiday score. 91-90.
Then Lou Will takes a 20 foot, drifting to his left, almost double clutches it, shot over Ryan Anderson, and misses.. Julius' energy leads to the offensive rebound, he takes Alonzo Gee to the basket, and that's the deciding score.
Lou Will then score the bucket after hilarious defense that Marcelo Huertas probably either scores on or gets to the line.
Anthony Brown gets fooled by Evans, but recovers and gets decent pressure on Evans to miss the 3 to tie, Randle gets the rebound, gets fouled, makes one of 2.
Also we are 23rd in SOS. Not 30th. TWolves, 22nd and have 3 more wins. The Lakers are playing as expected. I also hope you know that when you're not a winning team, your SOS is always negatively impacted. And puts you down further.
I'm also convinced that you don't watch the damn games to not see that this team is better today than they were 2 months ago. It was 4-21 after 25, and game 25 was a rout of the Bucks. Where Randle had 14-14 and Russell 19-4-7. And in that 5-10, they have a win against the Nuggets (who are better than us and were helped by Mudiay being out). Games where we came back against the Kings & Thunder in back to back games, where in the two months prior, it would have stayed a blowout. See losing to the Thunder by 35 & 40 in the prior 3 weeks. A win powered by the young guys against the Celtics. And games we were supposed to win against the Sixers, Suns & Pelicans.
Also only the Sixers have played more road games than us. We've played the same as about 3-4 teams.
Mitch isn't fire selling the vets, you know better. It's the same thing every year. You know better. You know he's not unless it's a deal that's too good to pass up.
Looking at the SOS for the Lakers, of our first 40 games, we were expected to be 8-32.
Also according to FiveThirtyEight''s projections, we are projected to finish the season 11-31 for a record of 20-62 for the season.
And finally the Nets are trending down, quickly.
The Suns are trending down, and could blow it up, and rightfully should.
The Nuggets, Pelicans & T'Wolves are 1 injury from injury prone players away from being worse than us.
Also one final thing, this team is drastically under coached. We can all agree to that at least. If we had a decent coach, not a good, not a great, a decent coach, how many extra wins do you think we have?
It's gotta be at least a few more.
And that's something you have to remember. This team has legitimate talent on it. They will win games.
Many of our runs were aided by Randle & Nance on the boards.
See the possession at 1:55-1:50. Randle def rebound, Clarkson missed layup, Randle offsenive rebound and score. 89-88.
Tyreke Evans misses 2 free throws.
Lou Will puts us up 90-89, on a tough shot.
Then a defensive breakdown by our guards, it was most likely Lou Will, but don't remember the bucket too well leads to a Holiday score. 91-90.
Then Lou Will takes a 20 foot, drifting to his left, almost double clutches it, shot over Ryan Anderson, and misses.. Julius' energy leads to the offensive rebound, he takes Alonzo Gee to the basket, and that's the deciding score.
Lou Will then score the bucket after hilarious defense that Marcelo Huertas probably either scores on or gets to the line.
Anthony Brown gets fooled by Evans, but recovers and gets decent pressure on Evans to miss the 3 to tie, Randle gets the rebound, gets fouled, makes one of 2.
Also we are 23rd in SOS. Not 30th. TWolves, 22nd and have 3 more wins. The Lakers are playing as expected. I also hope you know that when you're not a winning team, your SOS is always negatively impacted. And puts you down further.
I'm also convinced that you don't watch the damn games to not see that this team is better today than they were 2 months ago. It was 4-21 after 25, and game 25 was a rout of the Bucks. Where Randle had 14-14 and Russell 19-4-7. And in that 5-10, they have a win against the Nuggets (who are better than us and were helped by Mudiay being out). Games where we came back against the Kings & Thunder in back to back games, where in the two months prior, it would have stayed a blowout. See losing to the Thunder by 35 & 40 in the prior 3 weeks. A win powered by the young guys against the Celtics. And games we were supposed to win against the Sixers, Suns & Pelicans.
Also only the Sixers have played more road games than us. We've played the same as about 3-4 teams.
Mitch isn't fire selling the vets, you know better. It's the same thing every year. You know better. You know he's not unless it's a deal that's too good to pass up.
Looking at the SOS for the Lakers, of our first 40 games, we were expected to be 8-32.
Also according to FiveThirtyEight''s projections, we are projected to finish the season 11-31 for a record of 20-62 for the season.
And finally the Nets are trending down, quickly.
The Suns are trending down, and could blow it up, and rightfully should.
The Nuggets, Pelicans & T'Wolves are 1 injury from injury prone players away from being worse than us.
Also one final thing, this team is drastically under coached. We can all agree to that at least. If we had a decent coach, not a good, not a great, a decent coach, how many extra wins do you think we have?
It's gotta be at least a few more.
And that's something you have to remember. This team has legitimate talent on it. They will win games.
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Legitimate talent compared to who? The worst teams in the league? Sure we're comparable to the Sixers, Nets without Jack, Pelicans without AD, Suns without Bledsoe, etc. Kings have been blowing big leads against everyone all season. But unless we get a vintage Kobe performance one night (see Wizards/Celtics) or a 44 point explosion by Lou Will, or a hot night by Nick Young, the young guys aren't consistent enough to get wins whether it be youth, coaching, or they simply aren't good enough yet. I've acknowledged they've played better but it's still not up to snuff. They're still going to be very bad.
20 wins will still be enough to get us slotted into that 2 position so yes still worth it.
20 wins will still be enough to get us slotted into that 2 position so yes still worth it.
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We. Aren't. Keeping. The. Pick
The. Kids. Will. Flourish.
If. By. Chance. We. Keep. The. Pick.
It. Isn't. Because. You. Rooted. For. Losses.
Admittedly, I caught myself rooting for losses this year, but it really doesn't matter.
The odds aren't more then a coin flip.
Whether Silver gifts us the pick? That's another story.
The. Kids. Will. Flourish.
If. By. Chance. We. Keep. The. Pick.
It. Isn't. Because. You. Rooted. For. Losses.
Admittedly, I caught myself rooting for losses this year, but it really doesn't matter.
The odds aren't more then a coin flip.
Whether Silver gifts us the pick? That's another story.
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Oh it's fine to want the draft pick... BUT you guys are complaining about wins when the wins are done mostly by the young guys. Some of you, complain when they don't get to play, and then when they do, you complain because we won. When it was them playing more, them getting comfortable, which is the reason they won.
But what's hilarious is the simple lack of understanding of math, and randomness.
There's a significant chance that the team will get the 2nd worst record, and lose the pick. That's a fact.
We are not getting the worst record, no matter what we do, we are not getting that spot. That ship has sailed. It sailed weeks ago.
So you're at 2nd at best.
So you're perfectly fine with wanting the pick, we all want the pick..
But the damn complaining every time we win, and saying that it's disgusting that we won a game, when it was on the young guys for the win.. Is nonsense. It's certified nonsense.
You either want them to play, or you don't want them to play. You can't have it both ways.
Even when Kobe gets us a win, you can't even complain, because he's shot us out of more games this season than he'll help us win.
Some of you are also unaware of how severely under-coached this team is.
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Simple don't like the people that root for loses and complaining when we win...block them. Cause complaining about the complaining is worse. Let people do what they want, you, myself, ska, cp, P, none of us has a damn iota to do what actually happens. All the free agent scenarios with cap breakdowns means a hill of beans, this is just a platform to discuss our particular views on what's happening and what we'd like to see happen in the future. Dassit.
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We supposed to stress about our young players showing flashes and winning a few games once in a blue moon because of what MIGHT happen in a LOTTERY 6 months from now?
It's cool to be upset about the wins if you're super pro tank, I get it.
But at the same time stop preaching development, playing time, and progress for the young guys.
With progress comes improvement, with improvement comes a few wins.
Common sense.
Of course we're all team tank in some way, we'd all prefer to have our top 3 pick. We all want Ben Simmons.
But we also all want to see DLo, Clarkson, Randle show development and shine...so if they do against a horrible team like the Pelicans, and get a win they deserve, what's being upset going to do?
Shouldn't we all be happy they looked better yesterday as players? Whether we get lucky in the lottery or not, this is our core for the next half decade minimum.
Can't we at least be happy collectively to see them show abilities to win once in a blue moon along this journey of tank?
It's cool to be upset about the wins if you're super pro tank, I get it.
But at the same time stop preaching development, playing time, and progress for the young guys.
With progress comes improvement, with improvement comes a few wins.
Common sense.
Of course we're all team tank in some way, we'd all prefer to have our top 3 pick. We all want Ben Simmons.
But we also all want to see DLo, Clarkson, Randle show development and shine...so if they do against a horrible team like the Pelicans, and get a win they deserve, what's being upset going to do?
Shouldn't we all be happy they looked better yesterday as players? Whether we get lucky in the lottery or not, this is our core for the next half decade minimum.
Can't we at least be happy collectively to see them show abilities to win once in a blue moon along this journey of tank?
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Yeah, it's obvious that you along with others want perfectly scripted losses.
Just because we play in Hollywood doesn't mean we're in the movie business, sports don't work like that.
Just because we play in Hollywood doesn't mean we're in the movie business, sports don't work like that.
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So Kobe sitting out 2 weeks because of the achilles. Well you can schedule in a few more wins. I am sure thats gonna piss off a few in here 
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Who made more While not playing
Grant hill or Kobe ?
Grant hill or Kobe ?
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So Kobe sitting out 2 weeks because of the achilles. Well you can schedule in a few more wins. I am sure thats gonna piss off a few in here
Looks at schedule: @GS, @UTA, HOU, SAC, SA, @POR, DAL, CHI
Think we're going 0-8
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We may win 1 in our next 10
I'm good with that
I'm good with that
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Let's just keep praying for Ben [emoji]128591[/emoji][emoji]127998[/emoji]
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Lakers get a real W without even playing. Nets 
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