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[dceja]

Man end of the tanks got people on edge lol

 

[jsindaa]

Yeah uh, this draft really isn't all that great and we know the next year's draft class is better in the same way we knew what draft classes would be good prior to this one year rule. The 17 class is deep as Satan's home, as it stands. Still doesn't mean we shouldn't be trying to get this year's pick or be upset if we lose it

 

[ValarMorghulis]

Touche, I didnt watch every one of ADs early games but by all accounts he was ready to play 30mins from jump.

 

[MVP]

Brandon is playing 35 min a game now at Duke.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

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[had pants]

 

[CP1708]

I'm saying tho...



I mean call me an idiot for my opinion, i can handle being disagreed with, just don't hide it under the guise of "you guys and your...."

Mamba was the first person in this thread to call it a 2 man draft. And I yelled at him for it too. Going back 3 pages isn't work **** dude.

E was also talking about losing the pick and I included him in my post, regarding ALL of the talking points I brought up.


It's not all about you. Never has, never will be. Get a clue.

 

[MVP]

From the info everyone has and pretty much every scout and mock draft the prognosis is that there are two elite prospects in the upcoming draft and a serious dropoff in talent. Just because you use exclamations doesn't make your opinion any more valid than anyone else.

Last year's draft going into was prognosticated to have decent talent almost through the entire lottery which has proven for the most part to be the case. And nobody is saying they're haven't been steals before or late round gems, but generally the best of the best are at the top of the draft, those ft franchise changing guys.

 

[ValarMorghulis]

Thats what you chose to quote?

Not what I pointed out where you directly quoted me and basically followed every one of my posts with a retort. THAT is what made it about me.

Look at my post count to join date.... then look at yours.... look at my reps.... then look at yours.... now who is it "all about" again?

If you don't like it, block me, couldn't care less

Good effort tho

 

[tupac003]

Yeah uh, this draft really isn't all that great and we know the next year's draft class is better in the same way we knew what draft classes would be good prior to this one year rule. The 17 class is deep as Satan's home, as it stands. Still doesn't mean we shouldn't be trying to get this year's pick or be upset if we lose it

Don't really follow college basketball but is next years class going to be that great?

I thought we didn't have a pick next year.

 

[ValarMorghulis]

From the info everyone has and pretty much every scout and mock draft the prognosis is that there are two elite prospects in the upcoming draft and a serious dropoff in talent.

If we redrafted last years draft(just talent no fit) to include the big 2 in Ben and Brandon where do you think they fall?

1. KAT
2.Porzingis
3. D'lo
4. Jah
5. Ben
6. Booker
7. Brandon

??

 

[MVP]

Ben at 2 and Brandon at 3. Ben has been the number 1 prospect since his junior year of high school.

 

[ValarMorghulis]

Fair enough

 

[youngwolf]

i'm not a college b ball fan at all so excuse the ?

But does it draw concern that a player who's suppose to be this monumental game changer couldn't get his team into the tournament, and got DEMOLISHED in the final game?

No.

Injuries hurt this team, and playing for a coach that makes Byron Scott look like John Wooden didn't help either.

This LSU team was never that good anyway. They were overrated from the very beginning.

 

[ValarMorghulis]

i'm not a college b ball fan at all so excuse the ?

But does it draw concern that a player who's suppose to be this monumental game changer couldn't get his team into the tournament, and got DEMOLISHED in the final game?

No.

Injuries hurt this team, and playing for a coach that makes Byron Scott look like John Wooden didn't help either.

This LSU team was never that good anyway. They were overrated from the very beginning.

I watched 3 maybe 4 games watching Ben...

It looked like Quaterman and Blakeney both looked to "get theirs" often combined with horrible team defense as well

I said this in the draft thread... Izzo, Cal and Boehiem get the most out of Ben no question in my mind.

 

[sb]

 

[mamba2481]

Thats what you chose to quote?

Not what I pointed out where you directly quoted me and basically followed every one of my posts with a retort. THAT is what made it about me.

Look at my post count to join date.... then look at yours.... look at my reps.... then look at yours.... now who is it "all about" again?

If you don't like it, block me, couldn't care less

Good effort tho

He will only choose things that support his argument or little pieces of what you said to make you seem like you are an idiot or what you said was dumb. Than write an essay with a bunch of Rolling smiling/laughing points and a bunch of exclamation points and exaggerations to make everyone think what he is saying is gospel and what you said was stupid. New week, same story.

I think I've heard him say like 25 times this year lets draft Ingram and perfectly slide him in with dlo, clarkson, randle, nance And let them grow through ages 21-22-23-24. If we don't like that idea or come up with other options on how to make the Lakers better the rolling smileys are coming out.

 

[kal-el-8]

Thats what you chose to quote?

Not what I pointed out where you directly quoted me and basically followed every one of my posts with a retort. THAT is what made it about me.

Look at my post count to join date.... then look at yours.... look at my reps.... then look at yours.... now who is it "all about" again?

If you don't like it, block me, couldn't care less

Good effort tho

I think I've heard him say like 25 times this year lets draft Ingram and perfectly slide him in with dlo, clarkson, Ingram, randle. And let them grow through ages 21-22-23-24. If we don't like that idea or come up with other options on how to make the Lakers better the rolling smileys are coming out.

Do you honestly have a better ****** idea?

Don't give me fantasies about KD or Whiteside.

Besides the plan above, what's a better plan?

I'll wait.

 

[youngwolf]

i'm not a college b ball fan at all so excuse the ?

But does it draw concern that a player who's suppose to be this monumental game changer couldn't get his team into the tournament, and got DEMOLISHED in the final game?

No.

Injuries hurt this team, and playing for a coach that makes Byron Scott look like John Wooden didn't help either.

This LSU team was never that good anyway. They were overrated from the very beginning.

I watched 3 maybe 4 games watching Ben...

It looked like Quaterman and Blakeney both looked to "get theirs" often combined with horrible team defense as well

I said this in the draft thread... Izzo, Cal and Boehiem get the most out of Ben no question in my mind.

I definitely sensed that, especially with Quarterman. I think a lot of that was due to him being an upperclassmen and not wanting to give up the reins. But the guy would constantly come down and jack up ill-advised threes, which only made an already cringe worthy half court offense that much more ugly.

But Ben still had an amazing year. Like you said, if goes to UK or MSU, and doesn't have to play in a system that is so dependent on him, you get the most out of him and he's in the player of the year discussion.

 

[mamba2481]

 

[mamba2481]

Do you honestly have a better ****** idea?

Don't give me fantasies about KD or Whiteside.

Besides the plan above, what's a better plan?

I'll wait.

Nope I don't. I'm actually ok with drafting Ingram or Ben. I like both of them. I think we will definitely have to make some alters to the roster if we draft Ben. .
If we draft Ingram he will fit in nicely at the 3 position. Hope he gains some weight over the years bc he has a slender frame. But I like his game.

It will take us a while to be successful with that young core but they will be exciting to watch grow.

But that wasn't my point, my point is repeating the same thing and pushing agendas if another member comes and says trade the pick or draft someone else. And laughing at them for that thought bc you don't agree is absurd.

We all want the Lakers be better. Some people aren't as patient to wait for the next 3-5 years for this core to be good. It's the third year of a piss poor squad, some people want results now. Instant gratification.

I personally don't have a better idea until I see whose on the trade market and hear some rumors.

And if we strike out and we land number 2. Ingram it is, cool

But we are fooling ourselves if we think adding Ingram to dlo, clarkson, randle, nance, and 2nd tier free agents is going to be a good team for awhile. Just my opinion

 

[Lizakers]

CP da gaaaawwwddddd

We better have something to show for all this suffering this season

 

[kal-el-8]

Along with the right to give those opinions about trading the pick or saying losing the pick isn't bad; we also have the right to call out such *** hat comments.

So that's fine


Here's the thing, regardless of any scenario this team is still 2-3 years away. Whether that be by trade or by development. As a fan it's more gratifying to watch rooks develop then trade the farm and buy your way into a playoff berth.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[CP1708]

Thats what you chose to quote?

Not what I pointed out where you directly quoted me and basically followed every one of my posts with a retort. THAT is what made it about me.

Look at my post count to join date.... then look at yours.... look at my reps.... then look at yours.... now who is it "all about" again?

If you don't like it, block me, couldn't care less

Good effort tho

He will only choose things that support his argument or little pieces of what you said to make you seem like you are an idiot or what you said was dumb. Than write an essay with a bunch of Rolling smiling/laughing points and a bunch of exclamation points and exaggerations to make everyone think what he is saying is gospel and what you said was stupid. New week, same story.

I think I've heard him say like 25 times this year lets draft Ingram and perfectly slide him in with dlo, clarkson, randle, nance And let them grow through ages 21-22-23-24. If we don't like that idea or come up with other options on how to make the Lakers better the rolling smileys are coming out.

Now I'm pushing agendas?

You can disagree with my ideas, or thought process, 100% that's fine.

But 2 player draft = beyond idiotic thinking.
Losing the pick won't hurt = stupid.
2017 Draft is better than 2016 draft = literally judging high school players a year from now vs college guys people have yet to see work out.

I'm not pushing my theory, or any agenda, I'm laughing at a bunch of misguided thought processes from people who haven't even watched those high schoolers. Who haven't seen any workouts from players not named Ben or Ingram. Who think winning 15 games and not getting a pick won't hurt a franchise "that much".

That's just flat out hot air.

If it's actual scouts watching High School Seniors country wide, ok.
If it's college evaluators tellin me there's only 2 good players entering this draft, ok.

But they're not. Not even close. Just guys regurgitating ESPN hot takes.

That, I'm gonna call out, no matter who the SN is. No agenda, no laid out plan, just flat out me laughin at stupid *** takes.

 

[ValarMorghulis]

I think I've heard him say like 25 times this year lets draft Ingram and perfectly slide him in with dlo, clarkson, Ingram, randle. And let them grow through ages 21-22-23-24. If we don't like that idea or come up with other options on how to make the Lakers better the rolling smileys are coming out.

Do you honestly have a better ****** idea?

Don't give me fantasies about KD or Whiteside.

Besides the plan above, what's a better plan?

I'll wait.

The above plan is the best case scenario that could happen.

Ive brought up the point of maybe listening to offers for the pick for example, in no way am I saying I want this to happen OK EVERYONE, but listen to if someone wanted to move up to grab Ben and give up a young piece and a pick.

For example, would the Celts give up Avery Bradley and their pick let's say #5 and a pick next year or would the Wolves like to pair Ben with KAT and give us their pick and an unprotected 1st next year or my some grace of God, like Pau was, they would give up Wiggins

Yes that would mean we lose the best fit for us in Ingram but sliding down to get an asset or two and scoop Buddy Hield, who can slide right in and contribute day 1 would be alright.

We're in team building mode, like someone said 2 years away, and 2 years away after that to compete for championships hopefully.

We all got the same goal in mind....