Originally Posted by Jking0821
Do we have any shot at Thibs?
Who else is a big coaching candidate? Eddie Jordan is available right
Luke Walton? I don't really want him :shrugs
Basically can we get some one in the Popavich coaching tree
I'd like to think we have a shot. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say Houston would be more likely to actually hire him at this point - but I personally think the Wizards have a better roster to work with.
The Wizards, as some here still begrudgingly recall, actually hired Thibs once before, only to see him spurn the team for Boston after their Big Three came together. I think he was in camp for like a day.
If he was willing to sign on as an assistant during the tail end of the Arenas era, I'd like to think that even with his elevated profile he'd be willing to consider the Wizards now. Of all the open jobs, the Wizards have one of the better rosters and they play in a conference that's comparatively wide open. The gap between a fringe playoff team and a team contending for the conference finals is nowhere near what it is out west. That has to count for something.
I'm hopeful... but doubtful.
Originally Posted by JJs07
That's a great question. I think I have a longer list of guys who I don't want in here to coach
Obviously it would take the foresight from the GM and the rest of the front office, but with their jobs in supposed limbo, I'm not sure about my next statement....
Soooo, the Celtics were CLEARLY ahead of the game by hiring Brad Stevens. Stevens, IMO, is one of the best X's/O's coaches in the NBA. THAT'S the type of hire I want in here. Not some retread, but someone who is up on analytics, understands how the NBA is evolving, etc.
I don't know who that could be in the college ranks and that type of hire wouldn't be without risks, but we can't waste any more of John Wall's prime years. We have 5 good players on this roster going forward (Wall, Beal, Porter, Gortat, Morrs), but something needs to be done to bolster the team by spending smartly in FA (or by the Hail Mary and landing KD).
I agree. Topping the list of guys I did NOT want anywhere near this team, I had George Karl and Larry Brown. Thankfully, they're both out of consideration.
In Stevens, the Celtics made an extraordinarily great hire. I'm not enough of a college basketball fan to say I saw that one coming. Most college coaches struggle, as they're more recruiters than coaches. Just look at the guys who made the leap this year: Hoiberg has been a disaster. I don't think Donovan has solved any of OKC's problems.
I actually think you need to replace the GM first, then the coach. Otherwise, who's really leading your coaching search? The failed GM or the hopeless owner?
Originally Posted by ExtRaOrDinaRy SwAg
I wouldn't mind Thibs, it's clear defense took a massive drop off this season. This entire roster construction is just bad, filled with slow footed big men and wings that get exposed every night defensively. Boogie Cousins just ate Gortat for dinner last night
. But I also agree with JJ's above thinking about the Celtics model, they were way ahead of the curve on Brad Stevens, he is excellent. But the college coach thing can always blow up in your face like it has with Fred Hoiberg so I'd be a little bit hesitant.
As far as Grunfeld there's not a soul in DC that wants him back. But I'm scared Leonsis is afraid that a complete staff rebuild will scare away free agents (KD isn't coming let's be real).
This entire season was just terrible in every sense of the word. I can't think of a single player on this team that I'm happy with their effort. Beal regressed tremendously and showed again he can't be relied upon, Otto it's clear will never be great at any one thing, Gortat looks like he's on the downswing and Wall while he improved his three point shot seems to be as careless with the ball as ever and lacking defensively. I can see it in Wall's eyes that carrying this team all year has killed him. Hope he gets some rest in the offseason
I'm not a Gortat fan. I thought that was a classic "Ernie keeps his job" trade last year, and they compounded that problem by extending him. He's on the downside of his career. You won't find a lot of takers for that contract. And he's honestly not in the top 50% at his position.
I don't mind committing to a guy like Beal, even though he's underachieving, when he's at least on the upswing and capable of bringing back value in a trade. You would literally have to pay a team to take Gortat off your hands at this point. He's not a bad player per se, but he's just not good enough. He's disinterested unless you're constantly giving him offensive touches. He's routinely out of position on defense. People talk about how he can "run with John," but his lateral foot speed is pitiful. And then he sulks when things aren't going his way. I've had enough of him.
Our defense is awful because our frontcourt is awful. Our bigs can't switch. It's not just that they can't be counted on to defend a smaller player for two dribbles until help arrives - it's that they can't be counted on to even be in position. They can't play team defense.
Brooklyn did it right by replacing Billy King midseason. Like you, I worry that Ted wants to keep Ernie to play out the KD fantasy to its inevitable conclusion. The problem is that a legacy of failure is far less appealing to free agent than fresh start.
Really, I wish we could vote out the owner. I think he's content to just have a team and "try." He's not willing to make the investments needed to have a world class front office. He wants to run the organization like it's a used car dealership.
I used to commiserate with Bay Area friends, since the Wizards and Warriors were always mired in hopeless mediocrity. Their ownership changed and now look where we are. And, yes, you can say that talent made the difference there - but we could've drafted Steph Curry. We traded the pick for Mike Miller and Randy Foye. We could've drafted Klay Thompson. We took Jan Vesely. We could've drafted Harrison Barnes. We took Bradley Beal. We could've drafted Draymond Green in the second round of that same draft. Instead, we picked Jan Vesely's buddy Tomas Satoransky. We could've hired Steve Kerr. We chose to stick with the assistant coach left over from the failed Flip Saunders regime. We had Livingston. We let him go.
We had better assets and opportunities than the Warriors. They made the right moves with lower draft picks and less cap space.
Ted may be willing to settle for mediocrity, but we deserve better.