Black Male Ambushed and Detained by Police Due To White Couple Feeling "Uncomfortable"

[h1]  Jason Goolsby: "I Feared For My Life. I Didn't Want To Die"[/h1][h2]BY RACHEL SADON IN NEWS     ON OCT 15, 2015 3:00 PM[/h2]
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Jason Goolsby.

From the start, the encounter that prompted the #JusticeforJason online and in-person protests was punctuated by fear, UDC President Ronald Mason, Jr. said today at a press conference in which Jason Goolsby and his lawyer, Peter Grenier, told their side of the story.

In Grenier's telling, Goolsby, along with an unnamed friend and Michael Brown, who recorded the now-viral video of Goolsby's detention, had already gone to a volunteer orientation that morning to help counsel other teens about safe sex practices and preventing AIDS. The volunteer coordinator had been so grateful for their help that she took them out to lunch.

Goolsby, an aspiring hip hop artist, had a studio session that he needed to pay for planned that evening, so he next headed over to the Citibank at 600 Pennsylvania Avenue SE to withdraw money, he says. But while he was in the vestibule, he got a text message from the studio owner saying that something had come up and they'd need to postpone the session.

As the 18-year-old UDC student decided whether he still wanted to take out the cash, he saw a white couple headed toward the ATM with their baby, Grenier said. Instinctively, Goolsby opened the door for them to make it easier to get the stroller through.

Once they were inside, he didn't exchange any words with the family. Be he did think it was strange when the woman said she had forgotten something in the car and headed out without doing their clearly intended errand of taking out money.

D.C. Police said in a statement that they got a call "for a suspicious person, three subjects may be trying to rob people at the ATM." The Washington Post reports that the 911 caller told the operator: “We just left but we felt like if we had taken money out we might’ve gotten robbed.”

Unaware of the call, Gooslby then left himself and was heading toward a 90 bus stop to visit his brother at Howard University when a fast-moving police SUV headed straight toward him, his lawyer said. Thinking that the car was about to run him over, he quickly jumped on the curb and was both scared and bewildered when the white police officer driving the car demanded he get on the ground.

"I seen a gun and pepper spray," Goolsby said. "I feared for my life. I didn’t want to die."

According to Grenier: "He was well aware of the Freddie Gray incident, as well as numerous other incident of police brutality. He truly believed [the officer] was going to shoot him."

So he ran. The moments after police catch up to him is where the publicly released video begins. Goolsby can be seen twisting in pain while Brown shouts that his friend didn't do anything.

According to their lawyer, Goolsby and Brown were detained for two hours, shackled together and repeatedly ignored when they asked what they had done wrong. After a supervisor came, the pair was told they were free to go; the whole thing had been a "misunderstanding."

When Goolsby asked again what they had supposedly done, "the officer told him 'a woman called and said that you made her feel uncomfortable,'" Grenier said. "That is what caused this unspeakable series of events that will forever scar Jason and Michael."

"Under our laws, being black does not constitute probable cause to arrest or detain someone," he said. "I have zero doubt that if these young men were white, none of this would have happened."

Grenier said the city has been notified of potential legal action, but they are continuing to investigate before filing suit. "Jason has sought medical treatment for his arm, but the physical pain pales to the psychological and emotional pain that he has suffered," he said.

Meanwhile, the department is "reviewing the circumstances surrounding the stop to ensure that policies and procedures were followed," said a spokesman for MPD, Lt. Sean Conboy.

Goolsby himself was mostly quiet and seemingly contemplative during the press conference. When asked what he would say to the woman who presumably made the call that resulted in his detention, Goolsby said he wasn't sure yet what he would want to tell her. But he was clear about one thing: "I just don't want this to ever happen again. I want to see justice."

So, too, do the dozens of local activists who turned out for a protest on Tuesday through the area where the encounter took place, and the thousands of people who have taken to using the #JusticeforJason hashtag. The case has gotten national attention, with actress Gabrielle Union joining those expressing outrage.

UDC President Ronald Mason, Jr. said at the conference today that among the problems the incident represents is that America "fails to see the true potential that men like Jason and Michael represent— bright, engaged artists and scholars."

Grenier went to great lengths to show photos and videos of the pair to the audience: a clip of Goolsby rapping about how awesome his school is and a photo of him performing at the D.C. education festival, a video Brown made set to Evanescence and a photo of him at the White House at Michelle Obama's invitation.

But the white woman who apparently called the cops when she saw three black men at an ATM "saw what America has taught her to see," Mason Jr. said. "She felt what America has taught her to feel. And she did what America has taught her to do. Similarly with the police. ... Fear is the dominant theme of this entire event."

As for Gooslby and Brown, Mason Jr. said, "they were taught that when police cars drive up on black men, they have good reason to be afraid."
 
I'm already know dudes are going to play the "well that's his version of the story" card and automatically side with the cops as if their word is infallible.

Bottom line, how the cops approached him plays a major component in the story. The police chief specially mentioned that's part of their investigation (which you will see in the link above).

If they hopped the curb on a guy who got the cops called on him for being "suspicious"...that's OD and you can't possibly tell me that should be an ok procedure. they didn't even pull up on these kids in front of the bank where they were supposedly being suspicious...so why were they even stopped in the first place? It's one thing if they found them AT the bank...but they didn't.
 
From what I saw NO guns were drawn during the incident. From all local accounts here including witness statements and news media accounts no guns were drawn at all. Not sure where that guy above got that from.

1. http://dcist.com/2015/10/jason_goolsby.php
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...5203d6-71c1-11e5-9cbb-790369643cf9_story.html

2. What witness statements are you referring to? The actual arrest took place 3 blocks away from the Citibank where the crowded area on the corner near the metro is. There were no witnesses besides the kid, his friend, and the cops. They had already left from the bank before the cops showed up.

2. If you were in DC you would see and hear of all the local reports that I'm referring to. Since you are not, you my friend are falling victim to second hand false information. Also, once again...there was no arrest. If you are going to speak on something know what you are talking about or don't speak at all. Jason and Co. were stopped and detained. There were plenty of witnesses to the incident....it was on 8th Street SE during happy hour, try again champ.
 
Homie posted a link to the Washington post. Meanwhile, you have not posted a single link to justify anything you've said. Also, no one said the kid was arrested.
 
2. If you were in DC you would see and hear of all the local reports that I'm referring to. Since you are not, you my friend are falling victim to second hand false information. Also, once again...there was no arrest. If you are going to speak on something know what you are talking about or don't speak at all. Jason and Co. were stopped and detained. There were plenty of witnesses to the incident....it was on 8th Street SE during happy hour, try again champ.

I am DC. And haven't seen this reports. Can you please show me witness accounts...champ? I meant detained not arrest.
They got stopped 3 blocks away near the barracks row. Not on the corner near the metro where all the bars are.

What's with the catty female barbs?
 
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hand2handking hand2handking ...in regard to your quote about Jason seeing a gun, guess what champ...if you see any cop in America depending on what part of the body you are looking at you are going to see a gun and pepper spray. Doesn't mean that a gun or pepper spray was drawn or used. Once again, you dudes are falling victim to sensationalized media headlines grabs. Let's see if anyone asked if a gun or pepper spray was drawn.
 
No so serious question, but when was the last time a black person got detained or arrested and it was HIS fault by unanimous decision on NT?:nerd:

Walter Scott?

Michael Slager rightfully detained him.

And then shot him in the back after he ran.

Does that count?
 
this is just sickness

the bigotry, prejudice, and willfull ignorance on display in regards to this event and police in general is just truly disheartening 
 
 
No so serious question, but when was the last time a black person got detained or arrested and it was HIS fault by unanimous decision on NT?
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Walter Scott?

Michael Slager rightfully detained him.

And then shot him in the back after he ran.

Does that count?
Don't you wish that officer acted more like the officers in this current situation?
 
I was just curious, has a black dude ever been at fault or not at fault unanimously on NT. Have we as a community ever found a story like this, that we were all in agreement? 

So it's the kids fault that some bigot stereotyped him and called the police on him? Whether the kid ran or not, he would've been detained. Do you think that is his fault?
 
Don't you wish that officer acted more like the officers in this current situation?

considering Walter Scott ran after being detained and was actually wanted for an actual crime. Yes I do wish the officers would have pursued on foot instead of shooting
 
Nothing. They had just left a volunteering session and the kid who was stopped was going to withdraw cash but changed his mind. Then they left to head to the bus stop.

The cops were called for absolutely no reason whatsoever?
 
I didn't say any of this. I said pages back that whoever stereotyped is most to blame. Stop trying to outdo hand2hand, it's not flattering. 

ok.

Now answer the question... was the kid at fault? Mind you, he would've been detained either way.
 
 
Nothing. They had just left a volunteering session and the kid who was stopped was going to withdraw cash but changed his mind. Then they left to head to the bus stop.
The cops were called for absolutely no reason whatsoever?
sterotyping led to the call

the police officers responded to the call correctly

the suspect responded irrationally...

cops responded to an irrational suspect...

all in all.. the cops followed the book, and let dude go after they figured out there was nothing wrong..

This has more to do with the racism of the couple that called 911 than police misconduct/brutality
 
sterotyping led to the call

the police officers responded to the call correctly

the suspect responded irrationally...

cops responded to an irrational suspect...

all in all.. the cops followed the book, and let dude go after they figured out there was nothing wrong..

This has more to do with the racism of the couple that called 911 than police misconduct/brutality

We need to find out exactly what "follow the book" means. We need to have a definitive explanation on how cops are trained to approach "suspicious" people.

it is completely possible that the police MAY have been overagressive in their approach...which is what some of you dudes in here seem not to be understanding. Right now we have two sides to a story.
 
It turns out he didn't commit a crime but running was not the best idea. Criminals tend to do that. Expecting the police not apprehend someone who runs after being called in as a person of interest is like asking a damn fish not to swim.

Still didn't answer the question.
 
How do you suggest the police should have handled it? let's hear it.

I can't suggest how they should have done anything if I don't know what actually happened...nor do I know what protocol is.

If you noticed, I also asked for clarificication on what the proper procedure is for these situations. First, we need to find what "the book" says about approaching someone who did not commit a crime...then we need to find out what happened and if it followed protocol or not.

That's the EXACT thing that the police chief said is under investigation.

Simply chalking this up to "well he ran" doesn't tell the whole story. Logic says he ran out of fear and if he didn't commit a crime, we need to know if the police crossed the line is what triggered that fear.
 
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So i guess we all agree to hold judgement until more info is available
 
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