Black Male Ambushed and Detained by Police Due To White Couple Feeling "Uncomfortable"

Hand2HandKing said:
a lot yall already judged him for running

running = guilt right?
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Here's the thing regardless of what side you stand on:

He didn't committ any crime. So nobody can claim he was guilty. Guilty of what?

When someone runs...its out of fear. So the question we should be asking is what was he afraid of? They searched him and ran his name and he came up clean. So it's not like he had something on him or had a warrant. We need to find out why he was scared.

Unless people sincerely believe he just simply felt like running from the police that day.
 
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he said why he was scared, all the ANECDOTES that we've been hearing about

earlier running made you look guilty

"it looks suspicious to run"

"if youre inncoent you have nothing to fear"

"if you run from police youre stupid."
 
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whatever you want to call it, anecdote/examples of police murdering people is what he was scared was going to happen to him
 
running = questionable common sense.

but i don't know about you guys, but i'd pay to see a reality tv show with bloc02, hand2hand, mr. highness, and instagram living together for a week with a guest appearance or two from lionblood.
 
like i said earlier, if they feel like theyll do it because compliance does not guarantee that you wont be killed in custody
 
LIONBLOOD said:
If "not his fault" means didn't commit a crime then I agree. You may want to specify what you mean by "not his fault". What is not his fault? That he got detained? He may not have gotten detained if he didn't run, so he is partially at fault for that piece....keyword there is MAY. 
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Obviously you don't know what detained means.
Whether the kid ran or not, he would've been detained by police.
 
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de·tain
dəˈtān/
verb
keep (someone) in official custody, typically for questioning about a crime or in politically sensitive situations.
 
Detainment =/= taken in or arrested

Stopping and questioning him is detaining him...and he wasn't officially taken in for custody. After he roughed the kid up, he let him go because his person turned up clean and he had no record. He was going to run his record and search him regardless if he ran or not. That's his whole point of being there. You really think the cop was just going to drive past and say "hey, were you guys being suspicious in front of the bank? No? Ok, carry on".

Doubt it. He pulled up and hopped out. He wasn't just about to ask them one or two questions and walk away.


If you're being detained, you don't have to freedom to voluntarily remove yourself from that situation. So what exactly do you think is the difference between detainment and what "could have happened" if the kid didn't run?
 
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I think the problem is that people are focusing on the singular aspect of him running...and either ignoring or simply choosing not to address several very important factors.

There's two things to consider here: rules of engagement and reasonable suspicion.

The #1 reason why this kid is going to get a nice fat check in court is the fact that the cop did not have reasonable suspicion to approach him in the first place. In court, a cop has to provide facts to support the decision to detain in the first place. Right now, there's only a phone call about someone "looking suspicious". So the police officer is going to have to prove that he had reasonable suspicion...of someone being suspicious. Which is so absurd it's almost comedy. The fact that he engaged the kid walking to the bus stop and not actually at the bank is the kicker. He himself didn't even witness the kids at the place where they were reported to be suspicious at. He had a physical profile, and was going to pull up on them wherever. Keep in mind this happened 3 blocks away from the bank.

And the bigger deal is rules of engagement, if the courts decide that the cops did not follow protocol for approaching someone who hasn't been accused or under suspicion of a crime...it's a wrap. If they really did hop the curb almost hitting him, and/or a weapon was drawn...the kid running becomes a moot point.
 
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like u said they were going to engage him no mater what

and according to ppl in this thread, the prejudice they showed was justifiable simply because he ran
 
Im surprised more people dont take these police to court, Im still mad Thabo didnt press charges
 
If the report was "suspicious" person by ATM and the kid was already 3 blocks away from the ATM, why did the cop confront him in the first place? No crime was reported or committed, and the "suspicious" person was no longer at the scene. Cop basically should've just driven past the kid. But instead, the officer more than likely heard the description was a black male and he knew he had a criminal.
 
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I was under the impression this entire incident happened at the bank. The new information released yesterday afternoon and this morning, tell a different story.

Dude was definitely profiled.
 
Link to where you guys are getting this information from. The article says, Jason left and was heading towards the bus stop, then the police pulled up. Where are you getting this information that he was still in front of the bank? Also, where is the link stating that the cops chased him for 3 blocks? How we know he wasn't 1 or 2 blocks away and was chased a block or two?
 
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letsgetit22 said:
Link to where you guys are getting this information from. The article says, Jason left and was heading towards the bus stop, then the police pulled up. Where are you getting this information that he was still in front of the bank? Also, where is the link stating that the cops chased him for 3 blocks? How we know he wasn't 1 or 2 blocks away and was chased a block or two?
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The 18-year-old, who was with two friends, lingered about 20 seconds outside the Citibank near Eastern Market on Capitol Hill before leaving. Moments later, Goolsby said, he saw D.C. police cars racing toward him. One, he said, nearly hit him. The college freshman said he ran.

Three blocks away near Barracks Row, officers caught him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...5203d6-71c1-11e5-9cbb-790369643cf9_story.html

In a statement earlier in the week after the incident, Delroy Burton of the D.C. Police Union says the officers were called to a location where someone reported several people acting suspiciously.

When officers arrived he says they saw a man who fit one of the detailed descriptions. The officers say when they approached the young man, he took off running. Police say they chased him for several blocks on foot, in and out of traffic, catching him at Sixth Street and Pennsylvania Avenue SE.

http://wjla.com/news/local/lawyer-f...on-video-looking-into-civil-rights-violations
 
The thing that I see with people in this thread and other places, is that they quickly throw out the possibility that the cop(s) may have been in the wrong. And also act like there is no reason for these young black kids to be scared of police. It is like, has anyone for one moment considered that things may not be what you think they are? And it goes both directions.

Instead, they do everything in their power to find reasons to justify these actions and take race completely out of it. Mostly because they are sick of hearing about it. Not saying I agree with that, but it KIND OF is understandable because it is a confirmation bias flaw we all have.

BUT, it is obvious that blacks in general are viewed as 'more dangerous' than other groups of people and there is no way getting around that. And that is the problem. If that really is the subconscious belief of most people then they will handle situations like this in a certain way when they pop off.

This institutionalized racism is so deep that people don't know its there.
 
Stay Lurkin said:
The thing that I see with people in this thread and other places, is that they quickly throw out the possibility that the cop(s) may have been in the wrong. And also act like there is no reason for these young black kids to be scared of police. It is like, has anyone for one moment considered that things may not be what you think they are? And it goes both directions.

Instead, they do everything in their power to find reasons to justify these actions and take race completely out of it. Mostly because they are sick of hearing about it. Not saying I agree with that, but it KIND OF is understandable because it is a confirmation bias flaw we all have.

BUT, it is obvious that blacks in general are viewed as 'more dangerous' than other groups of people and there is no way getting around that. And that is the problem. If that really is the subconscious belief of most people then they will handle situations like this in a certain way when they pop off.

This institutionalized racism is so deep that people don't know its there.
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what are you talking about?

99% of everyone on this board understands and acknowledges racism with the exception of a few trolls

This thread is about whether the police had reasonable cause to pursue and detain the kid after he ran...

The couple who called 911 are already confirmed prejudice/racist.
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...5203d6-71c1-11e5-9cbb-790369643cf9_story.html

This is the article I originally read. I see they twisted a few details once I read through it again. Does say he got caught 3 blocks away but this doesn't matter as him running isn't in dispute.

The 18-year-old, who was with two friends, lingered about 20 seconds outside the Citibank near Eastern Market on Capitol Hill before leaving. Moments later, Goolsby said, he saw D.C. police cars racing toward him. One, he said, nearly hit him. The college freshman said he ran.
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How this is phrased, alludes to Jason being at the bank but leaving (heading away from the bank). Maybe I interpreted it wrong.

My question now is where was Jason confronted? Where did his interaction with the police start?
Did they draw a gun on him upon approach?
 
I meant the trolls when it comes to this board my bad :lol:

And that was me thinking out loud. Just a perspective. But that is what I see from people mostly
 
GWAP said:
The 18-year-old, who was with two friends, lingered about 20 seconds outside the Citibank near Eastern Market on Capitol Hill before leaving. Moments later, Goolsby said, he saw D.C. police cars racing toward him. One, he said, nearly hit him. The college freshman said he ran.



Three blocks away near Barracks Row, officers caught him.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...5203d6-71c1-11e5-9cbb-790369643cf9_story.html



In a statement earlier in the week after the incident, Delroy Burton of the D.C. Police Union says the officers were called to a location where someone reported several people acting suspiciously.



When officers arrived he says they saw a man who fit one of the detailed descriptions. The officers say when they approached the young man, he took off running. Police say they chased him for several blocks on foot, in and out of traffic, catching him at Sixth Street and Pennsylvania Avenue SE.



http://wjla.com/news/local/lawyer-f...on-video-looking-into-civil-rights-violations
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One side is saying he was at the bank still, the other is saying he was heading towards the bus stop. Someone is clearly lying. I will just sit back until the real truth comes out.
I see you believe the officers side already as you posted...

GWAP said:
the police approached him at the bank 

he ran

they caught him three blocks away
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