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TPAB > I Have A Dream Speech.

 

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TPAB > I Have A Dream Speech.


 
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You would think they were going to build a monument/statue of Kendrick Lamar the way folks talk about this guy. Acting like TPAB is better than MLK's I Have A Dream speech or equivalent.
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post #93 of 117
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TPAB is probably the MOST important hip-hop album ever. It's def in the conversation.


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Nas- Illmatic, It was written, Stillmatic 

 

JJ Evans- In my life time vol. 2

 

Eminem- Marshall Mathers LP 

 

Kendrick Lamar- NONE 

 

Lil Wayne- Inching toward Carter 1 but honestly NONE 

 

Kanye West- Graduation, MBDTF

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This dude kanye basically got 4 classics laugh.gif cuz everyone saying different albums
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This dude kanye basically got 4 classics laugh.gif cuz everyone saying different albums

I honestly was going to put "his first 5 albums" but it's all subjective. With his albums they all came out in a different time in my life and listening to them takes me to a special place, especially Graduation. I based it more so off of, if someone had never heard of Kanye West, which album(s) would give the best representation of him. Same with the other artist. In terms of K. Dot and Wayne neither of them have albums that changed the landscape of hip hop IMO. I mean Wayne maybe with Carter 3 but those sales were fueled by numerous mixtapes and the myth that the album may never see the light of day. Personally I play Carter 1 in my car to this day (no religion but the cops swear that I'm a drug lord!) and I'm not ready to call that nor Carter 2, 500 degrees, rebirth or anything from Wayne a classic. Kendrick is just the flavor of the month.
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In terms of K. Dot and Wayne neither of them have albums that changed the landscape of hip hop IMO. I mean Wayne maybe with Carter 3 but those sales were fueled by numerous mixtapes and the myth that the album may never see the light of day. Personally I play Carter 1 in my car to this day (no religion but the cops swear that I'm a drug lord!) and I'm not ready to call that nor Carter 2, 500 degrees, rebirth or anything from Wayne a classic. Kendrick is just the flavor of the month.

Classics don't have to "change the game". They just have to be good timeless music. If you play the Carter 1 in your whip today...and bump it all the way thru...it's a classic to you.

In the general hip hop land scape..it's definitely a classic album. It's overlooked b/c it was ahead of Wayne's time. It went platinum...but it was a slow burner, and a lot of people weren't up on Wayne like that. Carter 2 was slightly below the Carter 1 for me, but Wayne became more popular the time it dropped, so that's why more people inch towards that being his classic.

Lyrically, Wayne was at his peak during C1. BMJR is one of the closes tracks of the 2000's, and the Carter 1 ranks in the top 5 albums of that decade.

Now if we want to talk about somebody that had a classic that changed the landscape in hip hop...DMX dropped 2 of them in a calendar year..
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post #98 of 117
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Doesn't mean it's MORE important.

"Straight Outta Compton" to me isn't better than ******4Life but one is MORE important than the other.

Reasonable Doubt is better than Blueprint, but BP was more important to hip-hop. The majority of RD notoriety came after the fact. As someone pointed out the 3rd verse on "Hard Knock Life" where he speaks on it himself.

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TPAB > I Have A Dream Speech.

Kendrick had a DREEEEAAAAAMMMMMM.

I Have A Dream Speech is held in such a high regard, because it's when white people or what would now be popular culture embraced his idea, as with Kendrick that isn't MLK's best work. Maybe his most important, but his best would be Riverside Church or his final one before his death.


Honest question here. Does the fact Kendrick gets such universal acclaim from "mainstream" (read into that word what you like) audiences and critics not take something away from his work to you? Often these people are totally dismissive of hip-hop yet they love him (or at least pretend to). Would this not indicate that his music is actually quite safe and unthreatening in a way that the best of his genre has never been?

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so the only 3 three classics in my life would be kush and orange juice , cabin fever , and fabo's there is no competition one..........only skippable tracks on one of each of wiz's tapes - the demi lovato one in the beginning of kush and oj ( i dont like the song but its still nostalgic and "part" of the cohesiveness of the tape now for me) and wtf is "middle of you" on cabin fever indifferent.gif  ......fabos tinc 1 though , perfection , punch after punch 


only classic album , not one skippable song is kiss land to me if i follow your terms lol 

Kiss Land? Wasn't even better than any of his first three mixtapes.

Anyways:

Nas- Illmatic, It Was Written, Lost Tapes
Jay- Blueprint, Black Album, Reasonable Doubt
Eminem- MMLP, Eminem Show
Kendrick- GKMC, To Pimp a Butterfly (Masterpiece)
Kanye- Late Registration, MBDTF
Wayne- maybe C2
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Honest question here. Does the fact Kendrick gets such universal acclaim from "mainstream" (read into that word what you like) audiences and critics not take something away from his work to you? Often these people are totally dismissive of hip-hop yet they love him (or at least pretend to). Would this not indicate that his music is actually quite safe and unthreatening in a way that the best of his genre has never been?
Kanye is also critically acclaimed.
The 'Chronic' was one of the first critically acclaimed gangsta rap albums, that doesn't make it any worse.

It just shows that GREAT music transcends genres. It's all art at the end of the day, and if it's appreciated by evaluators of art it's good. And critical acclaim is importantant as well. The majority of the CLASSIC albums in hip-hop have had critical acclaim from its evaluators, depending on the level it could simply be The Source or now Pitchfork. For example Pitchfork was big on Camron's 'Purple Haze', it has aged quite well. Critics outside of hip-hop weren't necessarily big on GRODT, and it has aged terribly.

In the case of Kendrick, I've been following him since 2010ish, but closely since Section.80. I was in prison when GKMC dropped, the first review I read was in 'The New Yorker' of all places, and just the way it was described by them let me know it was something special, the 2nd I read was in 'Rolling Stone' in the spring of 2013. I didn't hear the album until November of 2013, I was still in prison but my man had it. Just the buzz he had in the penal system was something special.

I could only imagine what TPAB is doing for my Gs behind the wall. I'd bet everything I LOVE that it's changing lives, the same way I've seen it change people on the outside.

Lastly critics loved NWA, Public Enemy, Wu Tang, Illmatic, Ready To Die I don't think those were "safe" by any means and doesn't take away from the greatness. The interesting thing about Drake is he doesn't receive close to the amount of acclaim as Kendrick but he's more popular with consumers (solely based on sales).

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Thanks for your reply. You're right that all those albums were recognised outside the culture at least to some extent and there is obviously nothing wrong with that. I just think rappers generally fall off when they pander to that mainstream audience which is extremely fickle. Prime example being Jay after he returned from "retirement". Say what you want about Drake, he clearly has his own sound (which has spawned many imitators) and an artistic vision. In fact, I would have So Far Gone as the most influential release of this decade.

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post #102 of 117
How has grodt aged terribly. Lol this is the first thread I've heard that. That **** jams front to back idk what y'all are talking about that's definitely a classic.
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No it doesn't.

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post #104 of 117
Get rich or die trying is a top 10 hip hop album of all time. Y'all can take that "To pimp a butterfly" **** to listening parties with Macklemore

And reps to whoever mentioned Dark Man X. And then there was X to this day gives me chills. Substitute X for Kendrick in the list
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GRODT might not even be top 10 album from Queens.

If it is it's #10.

And 50's my dude.

N.O.R.E. aged way better than GRODT

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post #106 of 117
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Get rich or die trying is a top 10 hip hop album of all time. Y'all can take that "To pimp a butterfly" **** to listening parties with Macklemore

And reps to whoever mentioned Dark Man X. And then there was X to this day gives me chills. Substitute X for Kendrick in the list

How the **** you put that album in the same sentence as Macklemore? laugh.gif
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You would think they were going to build a monument/statue of Kendrick Lamar the way folks talk about this guy. Acting like TPAB is better than MLK's I Have A Dream speech or equivalent.

His post gave me cancer.
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post #108 of 117
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GRODT might not even be top 10 album from Queens.

If it is it's #10.

And 50's my dude.

N.O.R.E. aged way better than GRODT

I play that NORE album all the time still.

GRODT did not age poorly. It's been played out because of how big it was then and a couple years after. I can still play that **** front to back today.
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Get rich or die trying is a top 10 hip hop album of all time.
I'd be curious to see your top 10 album list.
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GRODT slander :{

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DMX "It's Dark and Hell is Hot" along with "Flesh of my Flesh, Blood of my Blood." I might be biased but those are the best albums when I was in 6-7th grade. Still have serious replace value to me. Especially the 'IDAHIS" intro that Mike Tyson had. That **** was what I listened to during warmups during basketball games,
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GRODT slander :{

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post #113 of 117
I still bump Get Rich Or Die Tryin. It aged good IMO. It was a moment in rap history. Cuz of how downloading has effective music we will never see anticipation like that for a rapper. And it brings back memories from my high school days.
post #114 of 117
Nas- Illmatic, Stillmatic, Lost Tapes
Jay-Z- Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint, Black Album, Watch The Throne
Kanye- All classics ( I don't like Graduation or Yeezus but they're classics in that they ushered/are ushering in new sounds)
Eminem- SSLP, MMLP, Eminem Show
Lil Wayne- Carter 3
Kendrick- GKMC, TPAB
post #115 of 117
After the first year I couldn't play GRODT for years cause I played it out. I just recently (the last 2-3 years) just got into it again
post #116 of 117
These "classic" albums, do some of you still listen to them today?
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I'd be curious to see your top 10 album list.

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These "classic" albums, do some of you still listen to them today?
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I listen to Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, Carter 1 at least once a month. Those are in my top 10 albums of all time, so yeah.
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