HBO Documentary: San Francisco 2.0

i used to work downtown at PG&E, and lived right on the panhandle from june '13 to about September of last year. a buddy and i were paying $2500/month on a 2-bedroom apartment, which i wouldn't be surprised if its now over $4000/month. moved to the east bay after and left the company since, but on occasion i'd make a trip to the city. just walking down market street is a trip in itself because of how much it has changed.

i told myself if i ever move back, i'd look into the inner richmond or sunset. after looking at rental rates for the heck of it, pass. i recently moved to portland (technically beaverton), and while the cost of living is cheaper out here, rent is getting a little higher and you can see them constructing new condos/apartments downtown. some of my coworkers and other locals blame the californians that are migrating up here (like myself lol).

i still love SF, but man it doesn't feel the same out there anymore. and i could use a burrito from el farolito right now :lol:
 
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[h1]One-third of Bay Area residents hope to leave soon, poll finds[/h1]
By George Avalos, gavalos@bayareanewsgroup.com
POSTED:   05/02/2016 12:00:00 AM PDT

More than one-third of Bay Area residents say they are ready to leave in the next few years, citing high housing costs and traffic as the region's biggest problems, according to a poll released Monday.
Of the 1,000 people polled by the Bay Area Council, 34 percent said they are considering leaving. Those who have lived here five years or less are the most likely to want to leave."This is our canary in a coal mine," said Jim Wunderman, president of the Bay Area Council. "Residents are screaming for solutions."In another grim result, the number of residents who believe the region is on the wrong track has increased sharply in the past year, the poll found.This year's poll found that 40 percent of respondents felt the Bay Area was on the wrong track, while 40 percent felt it was headed in the right direction. Just one year ago, only 28 percent felt the Bay Area was on the wrong track, and 55 percent thought it was headed in the right direction."This survey underscores that we have a choice," said Carl Guardino, president of the Silicon Valley Leadership Group, which is pushing to raise sales taxes by a half-cent in Santa Clara, San Benito, Santa Cruz and San Francisco counties to fund transportation. "We can be enraged, or we can be engaged. We can engage the broader community on solutions that actually tackle these seemingly insurmountable problems."Some observers say the Bay Area's challenges, which have arrived amid the job boom in the tech hubs of Silicon Valley, is pushing low- and middle-income people out and could transform the region into a Manhattan-like megalopolis.
"The economic divide in the Bay Area is real," said Russell Hancock, president of Joint Venture Silicon Valley. "We will lose low-income earners, and they will be replaced by high earners. We are losing the middle class as well."

People in Santa Clara County and San Francisco are feeling the least optimistic about the direction of the Bay Area.

Just 37 percent of Santa Clara County residents believe the Bay Area is headed in the right direction, and only 33 percent of San Francisco residents think the region is on the right track. What's more, 52 percent of San Francisco residents say the Bay Area is on the wrong track.

Optimistic and pessimistic attitudes didn't vary much by income group.

Among people with household incomes of $125,000 a year or more, 46 percent said the region was on the right track, while 40 percent said it was on the wrong track. Among those with incomes ranging from $75,000 to $125,000, 42 percent said the Bay Area was on the right track, while 38 percent said it was on the wrong track. And among those with less than $75,000 in household income, 38 percent said the Bay Area is going in the right direction, while 43 percent said it's on the wrong track.

The survey also found that people who spend more of their money on housing were more likely to seek an escape from the Bay Area in the next few years.

Despite the number of respondents who said they're ready to go, 54 percent said they had no plans to defect from the Bay Area.

"We can whine about this, or we can win by solving our traffic and housing problems," Guardino said. "The last time the Bay Area had seemingly solved its traffic problems was the worldwide recession of 2008. A recession is not how we want to solve our traffic and housing problems."

http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_29837065/one-third-bay-area-residents-hope-leave-soon
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For those who are living in SF and adjacent areas, how many more years will it take for the diverse cultures to be drained out/hipsters to completely run everything?
 
Gentrification has already taken out everything in SF outside of Sunset District.The South Bay and East Bay are MUCH more diverse. I've been having a good @!@ time in all the Korean bars in Santa Clara ever since I moved down here :lol:

I can afford to live in SF just fine, but @!@# like $10 Vietnamese sandwiches after rich white people pushed out the authentic shops that sold them for $3 pisses me off to no end. And I'm not anti white; there's a huge difference in mentalities between most of the white people that grew up here vs the rich kids that moved here and tried making the city their own.
 
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SFC415 said:
Gentrification has already taken out everything in SF outside of Sunset District.The South Bay is MUCH more diverse. I've been having a good @!@ time in all the Korean bars in Santa Clara ever since I moved down here :lol:

I can afford to live in SF just fine, but @!@# like $10 Vietnamese sandwiches after rich white people pushed out the authentic shops that sold them for $3 pisses me off to no end.
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Moving back to the bay next.month after being gone for the last 6 years and south bay is where I'm heading
 
Where in the South Bay? People will tell you that it's boring here, and compared to SF, it obviously is. But it's really not that bad, compared to when I moved here for high school from 2003-2007, there's A LOT more good bars and restaurants, and SF is a 45 min drive/Caltrain ride away anyway so I never miss the city.
 
See I to college in the city but always stayed in oakland oaklandel Cerrito. Never once wanted to live in SF but was there everyday and damn near every weekend. I love San Jose though and the bay in general. For me probably san jose or santa Clara but maybe I'll end up in Fremont they've good schools for my girls
 
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I literally drove to Hunters Point 2 weeks ago to see the gentrification there and didn't believe it until I saw it. They are building $600-700k condos there which is still a budget price considering what you have to pay for downtown.

The whole Bay Area is really just effed up. It's to the point where nothing makes sense no more. I want to own a place but even with the income that me and my girl make, we just can't afford anything in SF at all. And outside of the city is no better. Pricing is sort of the same where ever you go but you just get more space. Even crap areas like Richmond are selling houses for $600k for spots in the really sketch areas. I literally am learning to hate it out here.
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Pretty much what's happening here in NY, downtown Brooklyn is on some 500k + for a box, Astoria, LIC Queens is not much different, now we are getting SoBro...is great for those of us who already own as property value is rising....but is sad to see a city push out its own habitats....the Bronx being the dump it is, you used to be able to find rent under 900$ for a 1 bedroom, now we talking 1300$ in the worst of places :lol:

People getting pushed further away, makes you wonder who the hell is even gonna work the lower level jobs in the city?...
 
Law3001 said:
See I to college in the city but always stayed in oakland oaklandel Cerrito. Never once wanted to live in SF but was there everyday and damn near every weekend. I love San Jose though and the bay in general. For me probably san jose or santa Clara but maybe I'll end up in Fremont they've good schools for my girls
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Fremont is kind of boring but probably one of the best cities to raise kids in. Extremely safe, diverse, and has some of the highest rated schools in the country. I might move there eventually (was actually considering it recently, but I need to be near Caltrain for work)
 
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i'm fine...for now
if it wasn't for rent-control and my current job, i'd probably been gone. all my friends have left and the spots that i use to frequent are gone or have been changed.
sign of the time >D

it's sad going to work and passing the Mission to see how much it has changed :frown:
tech buses line up, high rise condos, etc. take a walk down valencia st. and you'd think we were somewhere else
 
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Law3001 said:
See I to college in the city but always stayed in oakland oaklandel Cerrito. Never once wanted to live in SF but was there everyday and damn near every weekend. I love San Jose though and the bay in general. For me probably san jose or santa Clara but maybe I'll end up in Fremont they've good schools for my girls
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My Eskimo brother Loyan moving back to the Bay? :smokin

I'll mail you a 12th man flag.
 
On a lighter note, housing has gone down a tad in SF. I've seen some houses on the market for $600-700k near Cow Palace area. That is still expensive but better than the $800-900 price tag only 6 months ago. I hope it continues.
 
SFC415 said:
Fremont is kind of boring but probably one of the best cities to raise kids in. Extremely safe, diverse, and has some of the highest rated schools in the country. I might move there eventually (was actually considering it recently, but I need to be near Caltrain for work)
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At this point jn my life im 30 with two kids, as long as I can smoke weed everday and take them to the park I'm good.
 
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