meet Terrence Wise, a 36 year old, 2nd-generation fast-food worker

THE QBZ said:
How is it dumb when im saying both create broken youth who go into it with no knowledge. And i did not say every gets shot at.

Notnin the military but i do help the men and women who comeback try to find the necessary health care they need becuase they dont qualify for or are waiting on VA benefits.

You only took my shooting comments and porn comparison with deeper thinking about and possibly seeing the comparison.

And entry level military only makes at the most 28k so you in the same situation as the minimum wage worker.

And hownlong do you have to sign up to get that 4 years of promised college?
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4 years.

28k salary but don't have to pay for food or shelter or medical. 

you sign up for 4 years and you will get the post 9-11 GI bill which guarantees you 4 years tuition paid and they will pay you the cost of living in the area of your school so you have a place to live. for me in houston that 1400$ a month to find a place to live...i found a place for a less than a G and pocketed the rest.  Again...they pay for school and shelter oh and free medical benefits from the VA.  You are also still available for 100% financial aid for school as well so thats another check.  And free moving expenses for everything you own including your car.

i've done all this while getting travel the world and live in europe.  never shot a bullet anyone in my life and have never been shot at.

also you get free tuition while you are in the military so i took advantage of that as well. 

add to that i was trained as a aircraft fuel system specialists and still hold that license to fall back on. 

used my GI bill to go in to healthcare and am currently living very comfortably. 

not to mention my military experience has leapfrogged me in front of other candidates and was offered 3 jobs before i even graduated. 

im sorry but you really don't know what you are talking about. comparing it to the porn industry is completely asinine.  

there are a lot of people who don't know how to take advantage of all the opportunities the military gives are completlely ignorant and have no drive to suceed once they get out because its not an easy transition.  
 
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i feel all of the dudes in here talking about being fair and splitting the wealthy but i'm sad to say that it's not a realistic idea. it's truly the survive of the fittest out there b. the people who wants to improve their situation normally do. you know why? because they put that first and not just talk about how unfair the world is. yeah, people might be born into an unfortunate situation but how many other countries do you know where you can go from being homeless to a millionaire? there are countries out there that don't provide any benefits or support to their people. some of our worst neighborhoods is like Hollywood out there b. just think about how immigrants come to this country with basically nothing and are unable to speak English and later flourish. action speaks louder than words. people talk about the grind and working hard but you can't tell me you're working hard for 20 years that you can't even manage one promotion :x every company respect and will want to retain talent. the fact he's still at the same spot he was 20 years ago shows he's just clock in and out.

tldr; Terrence Wise is a bum.
 
Jamie Dimon said:
I don't understand how dude worked for almost 20 years and not get any promotions or raises and not do anything about it. 
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JChambers said:
People get stuck. He is weak,and/or lacks the intelligence and skills to better himself. It happens to a lot of people.
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Right. There's obviously something wrong with dude.

After 20 years he's only received raises when minimum wage has gone up.
Most places will give you a 6 month review with a raise and then a review every yearly there after.
Idk how McDonalds does things but I would have to assume he was graded poorly on his reviews and did. It receive raises.
 
Come on now, this guy has been working in the fast food industry crying about a raise after working at 8 bucks an hour for 20 years? Some of y'all even have the nerve to try back this up. Some of y'all don't even know what you're talking about trying to rationalize this , but never been in these types of situations. Alot of this tells me y'all would be crying too if put in the same situation. There's people that change their situations and there's people that don't and complain about it the rest of their lives and blames the next person for what they don't have. This is a capitalist country and one of the wealthiest countries supposedly in the world , meaning that there's anything you can do here and make money off but some people don't have the common sense to get out and take advantage of said oppurtunies that this country gives us man common. If a female can game the system and make money off the government, then there should be no reason as to why you can't take advantage of the anything that we have available here. No way in hell you should be crying about working for 8 bucks for 20 years when you could have done something about it. SMH people out here without diplomas out here opening business and making their companies. Y'all won't get no sympathy from me if you're out here begging.
 
No middle ground in sight :lol:

friscostylez said:
Boris said:
friscostylez said:
the people who wants to improve their situation normally do. you know why? because they put that first and not just talk about how unfair the world is. 
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Any stats on this claim?
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no i don't and there aren't any stats that proves mcdonald workers should get paid more than minimum wage either
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Do cost of living stats count? Those stats at least prove you can't survive on the current minimum wage. You think they don't deserve more than minimum wage, but do you also think minimum wage shouldn't increase to the $14-15 range to somewhat account for rising prices of necessary goods?
 
RIP sleazyy said:
No middle ground in sight :lol:

friscostylez said:
Boris said:
friscostylez said:
the people who wants to improve their situation normally do. you know why? because they put that first and not just talk about how unfair the world is. 
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Any stats on this claim?
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no i don't and there aren't any stats that proves mcdonald workers should get paid more than minimum wage either
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Do cost of living stats count? Those stats at least prove you can't survive on the current minimum wage. You think they don't deserve more than minimum wage, but do you also think minimum wage shouldn't increase to the $14-15 range to somewhat account for rising prices of necessary goods?
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Where is that extra money going to come from though? I don't believe that these big businesses are going to reduce their profit margin. Most likely, they will either raise prices, or lower wages/reduce position advancement on the managers, etc. who make more than the minimum. Small businesses will get hit the worst by a minimum wage increase as usual.
 
this is just stupid dude shouldve been hustling instead of being stagnant for 20 years and calling the wahbulance now
 
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THE QBZ said:
JChambers said:
Dude really compared soldiers to porn stars? LMFAO. :rolleyes
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My point was that people go into both with a pipe dream of making it big usually based on someone recruiting them and most time those dreams dont pan out.
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People go into the military for a lot of reasons. Some seek a career, some want their college paid for and some just need some direction or don't have anything else better going on. It isn't comparable to the porn industry in my eyes at all. Do you feel that people who play college sports are similar to porn prostitutes too?
 
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friscostylez said:
no i don't and there aren't any stats that proves mcdonald workers should get paid more than minimum wage either
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Oh ok, so you're resorting to spewing ********. That should be the first indication to you that your ideas are ill-conceived. 
 
JChambers said:
RIP sleazyy said:
No middle ground in sight :lol:

friscostylez said:
Boris said:
friscostylez said:
the people who wants to improve their situation normally do. you know why? because they put that first and not just talk about how unfair the world is. 
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Any stats on this claim?
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no i don't and there aren't any stats that proves mcdonald workers should get paid more than minimum wage either
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Do cost of living stats count? Those stats at least prove you can't survive on the current minimum wage. You think they don't deserve more than minimum wage, but do you also think minimum wage shouldn't increase to the $14-15 range to somewhat account for rising prices of necessary goods?
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Where is that extra money going to come from though? I don't believe that these big businesses are going to reduce their profit margin. Most likely, they will either raise prices, or lower wages/reduce position advancement on the managers, etc. who make more than the minimum. Small businesses will get hit the worst by a minimum wage increase as usual.
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I'll post this again. It addresses some of the issues brought up involving changes after wage increase. The article even notes that in San Jose when the min wage increased, fast food places started hiring more people.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/no-one-knows-if-15-minimum-wage-will-cost-jobs

Increased minimum wage would theoretically increase spending thus increasing profits for major companies. It's thought that the extra money may come from extra spending.

Small business will take a hit but from my understanding small businesses tend to fail more often than not even now. Startup companies are usually started via what would be called debt. And I would assume there would be more government grants/loans for small businesses in case of a large increase that put too much strain on the business. But how many small businesses pay the current minimum wage? Have wondered that for a while.

I could be wrong but again we have no large scale test of this situation.


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I think that increased min wage may have to lead to a bit more regulation of large multibillion dollar corporations, which I know some people find scary.

In a perfect world things could seemingly easily be balanced by increasing wages to combat inflation, which would help some people get themselves off of assistance and inject more money into the economy. The companies get what they want, people are able to begin living more comfortably on a large scale, everyone's happier.

I also think that with a wage increase there needs to be an overhaul of government assistance programs.
 
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RIP sleazyy said:
JChambers said:
RIP sleazyy said:
No middle ground in sight :lol:

friscostylez said:
Boris said:
friscostylez said:
the people who wants to improve their situation normally do. you know why? because they put that first and not just talk about how unfair the world is. 
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Any stats on this claim?
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no i don't and there aren't any stats that proves mcdonald workers should get paid more than minimum wage either
Click to expand...

Do cost of living stats count? Those stats at least prove you can't survive on the current minimum wage. You think they don't deserve more than minimum wage, but do you also think minimum wage shouldn't increase to the $14-15 range to somewhat account for rising prices of necessary goods?
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Where is that extra money going to come from though? I don't believe that these big businesses are going to reduce their profit margin. Most likely, they will either raise prices, or lower wages/reduce position advancement on the managers, etc. who make more than the minimum. Small businesses will get hit the worst by a minimum wage increase as usual.
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I'll post this again. It addresses some of the issues brought up involving changes after wage increase. The article even notes that in San Jose when the min wage increased, fast food places started hiring more people.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/no-one-knows-if-15-minimum-wage-will-cost-jobs

Increased minimum wage would theoretically increase spending thus increasing profits for major companies. It's thought that the extra money may come from extra spending.

Small business will take a hit but from my understanding small businesses tend to fail more often than not even now. Startup companies are usually started via what would be called debt. And I would assume there would be more government grants/loans for small businesses in case of a large increase that put too much strain on the business. But how many small businesses pay the current minimum wage? Have wondered that for a while.

I could be wrong but again we have no large scale test of this situation.


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I think that increased min wage may have to lead to a bit more regulation of large multibillion dollar corporations, which I know some people find scary.

In a perfect world things could seemingly easily be balanced by increasing wages to combat inflation, which would help some people get themselves off of assistance and inject more money into the economy. The companies get what they want, people are able to begin living more comfortably on a large scale, everyone's happier.

I also think that with a wage increase there needs to be an overhaul of government assistance programs.
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It could go either way. I'll wait to see what the results are in those cities that have already implemented it. One thing that we can agree on is that it isn't good for small business, especially startup businesses in their first year or two of existence. With more grants/loans for small business, now you are talking about tax money. All small businesses should pay at least the current minimum wage, unless they are paying under the table.
 
Boris said:
 
sea manup said:
 
can you think of a single success story about a guy who complained about his situation rather than doing something about it? 
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Aren't people "doing something" by raising awareness and fighting for fair wages? 
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maybe I have high standards but I dont consider getting paid 10 dollars an hour instead of 8 dollars an hour at my minimum wage job flipping burgers a success story 
 
On small businesses:

http://www.smallbusinessmajority.or...wnloads/072915-National-Minimum-Wage-Poll.pdf

http://www.dol.gov/minwage/mythbuster.htm


Myth: Small business owners can't afford to pay their workers more, and therefore don't support an increase in the minimum wage.
Not true: A July 2015 survey found that 3 out of 5 small business owners with employees support a gradual increase in the minimum wage to $12. The survey reports that small business owners say an increase "would immediately put more money in the pocket of low-wage workers who will then spend the money on things like housing, food, and gas. This boost in demand for goods and services will help stimulate the economy and help create opportunities."


My point about regulation of some of these large companies was somewhat about the tax situation, I should have elaborated. Money could easily be pulled from these companies that are skating on taxes, and I would gladly support paying a bit more in taxes if it meant large corporations had to do the same. That's just me though.

I think you have more of a "hands off" approach when it comes to government regulation, but I really believe in some cases it is necessary for the benefit of the country and the people in it. Even with my complete lack of trust and belief in the government :lol: We're dealing with billions of dollars in tax revenue per year that just disappear.

None of this could happen overnight, obviously. Years of planning and gradual implementation would have to be done. But I personally believe it's worth a try. I agree that paying very close attention the cities implementing these wage increases is key in the coming years. They can surely be a guide for a national framework with adjustments for different cities based on what is needed.
 
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