meet Terrence Wise, a 36 year old, 2nd-generation fast-food worker

What makes yall thing raising minimum wage wont effect anything else?

If a business has to pay their employees more, prices will go up to cover that cost, putting those people right back where they started.

Raising minimum wage isnt the answer.

Cost gon go up regardless whether the min wage is raised or not. Now the rebuttal argument is usually "Yea, cost goes up but if the min wage is raised to $15/hr, it's going to go up a lot higher than what it usually does."

To that I say, we don't know, they could start charging crazy amounts right now w/o raising the min wage. If they raise the min wage to $15/hr, and costs increase, then the actually min wage increase would be less than the $15.

And now I'm referring to you but in general w/ my next statement, I find it funny how people were crying about dude raising the price of his drug for people w/ HIV and cancer, but not about things that affect the general population.
 
another one of these threads...people who make ****** decisions and then the world is expected to change to bail them out 
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I don't think we're being too insensitive here. To put it plainly, "bruh you could have, and can do better, people are depending on you". Let's not forget the nice tax return here as well.
 
Double posting but I want to post this too.

http://livingwage.mit.edu/

this site proves my point

none of those figure take account for the many welfare programs available

the housing figures dong account for low income apartment rates.
low income apartments are less than $100/month for NICE apartments

the food figure isnt accounting for SNAP type programs, where people have so much money stacked up they sell it for cash.

transportation is no where near accurate.
$400-800/mo car note?
on minimum wage?
stop.


if that chart isnt a clear indication having kids on minimum wage is a mistake, i dont know what more can be said


a local (liberal) radio station here posed the question if you're on minimum wage/ welfare should you not have kids

you wouldnt believe how many pissed off people called in to say "but thats my god given right, to be fruitful and multiply"

yeah its your right

its also your right to stuggle and starve
 
why would you create 3 kids in this world if you work at mcdonalds & burger king

Becuase maybe you wanted to have kids


Some of yall acting like the world would end if minimum wage gets raised.


Eveybody doesnt have the same options.

If your saying there are programs to help the needed then you dont know enough about these programs. Mainly the waitlist for such assistant can be anywhere betwee. A few weeks to a couple of years. In additio. These programs are state funded so if the business that are employeeing these folks dont pay taxes in their area then the state doesnt get the necessary funds to keep these programs going.

You can apply for housing and voucher and assistance BUT what do you do in the meantime.

Go to school take out loans and get a better job.... okay but that what do you do now that you are over qualified.
Fast food worker are sold the same pipe dream like the kids who becomes an intern at a big firms is sold. Work hard and we will promote you......
 
A lack of knowldege of options, doesn't mean the options dont exists.
 
It just blows my mind that that many of you think the people that serve us everyday completing some of the most mundane tasks all made poor decisions and deserve not to earn a living wage.

the workers that come in and clean my office and your office I am sure are on minimum wage.

Movie theater employees, event staff at sports games and concerts, arent they on minimum wage as well?

Doesnt the minimum wage stretch beyond fast food workers?

I dunno man... maybe its just me being selfish but i just know that people on minimum wage are more than likely providing me with some type of service that I somewhat value at one point or another.

If all of a sudden all those people are gone because they want to "do better", im left with some stupid smuck of a kid performing poorly on a job that he doesnt care about because losing the job is without consequence to him.


If prices are raised wouldnt it just come down to a personal decision on whether you want to pay X amount more dollars to enjoy or entertain yourself?
If you cant afford it then shouldnt you try and go out and "do better" so that you can?
 
of course minimum wage should be able to support the worker and give him a "living wage"

if the thread was about a dude working full time at mcdonalds not being able to support himself then you would have an argument

but this is about a dude working full time and not being able to support himself and his 3 kids. 

no, it is unrealistic to expect a minimum wage to be able to support 4 people, and the reason for this guys struggles are poor personal choices in life. 
 
**** no its not. There still a shortage of people signing up and how is that the same


The dream of making it big and being able to be financially stable . When in reality only a select few climb the ranks and become financially better off with minimal emmotional scars
 
**** no its not. There still a shortage of people signing up and how is that the same


The dream of making it big and being able to be financially stable . When in reality only a select few climb the ranks and become financially better off with minimal emmotional scars
Don't know what emotional scars you get from joining the military but you getting health care plus a 4 year degree paid for from uncle Sam looks good to me.

Don't think you are getting that for sucking on couple ***** for the camera.
 
It just blows my mind that that many of you think the people that serve us everyday completing some of the most mundane tasks all made poor decisions and deserve not to earn a living wage.

the workers that come in and clean my office and your office I am sure are on minimum wage.

Movie theater employees, event staff at sports games and concerts, arent they on minimum wage as well?

Doesnt the minimum wage stretch beyond fast food workers?

I dunno man... maybe its just me being selfish but i just know that people on minimum wage are more than likely providing me with some type of service that I somewhat value at one point or another.

If all of a sudden all those people are gone because they want to "do better", im left with some stupid smuck of a kid performing poorly on a job that he doesnt care about because losing the job is without consequence to him.


If prices are raised wouldnt it just come down to a personal decision on whether you want to pay X amount more dollars to enjoy or entertain yourself?
If you cant afford it then shouldnt you try and go out and "do better" so that you can?
im right there with you. essentially people are saying the poor choose to be that way by bad decisions or lack of effort. theres so much more to being generationally poor than deciding not to drop out of high school.
 
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Nobody CHOOSEs to be poor, but people made other decisions that lead them there.
 
Don't know what emotional scars you get from joining the military but you getting health care plus a 4 year degree paid for from uncle Sam looks good to me.

Don't think you are getting that for sucking on couple ***** for the camera.


So shoiting and being shot at wont leave you emotionally scarred

Being a way from home while the world goes on with you wont leave you emotionally scarred

Get gang raped by one of your higher ups wont leave you emotionally scared

Having to save or watch a friend get blown up or die wont leave you emotionally scarred

Losing a limb to ieds wont leave you emotionally scarred


My comparisons are that both insistry tell you good things to get you in but dont necessarily pay back those who do the work
 
Nobody CHOOSEs to be poor, but people made other decisions that lead them there.
still a huge over simplification. these people are products of their environment and this environment breeds people that dont value education which leads to what we see as poor decision making skills but within the context of their own lives and their own environment thats every day behavior. that in itself is an over simplification but socioeconomics is way more than making bad decisions. 
 
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