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Homicide rates in the inner city and minority areas are increasing

They are decreasing in the burbs and gentrified areas

This isn't true. They're pretty much steady or lower nationwide. If you watch the news they'll brainwash you to believe you something different.

Just like how Chicago became a Republican talking point. They exploited them by publicizing everything that occurred. We used to get Monday updates about what occurred over the weekend. But if you look at the murder rate over the past 40 years, the past 5 years has been the safest.

In New York, the past four years has been the safest.
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And we all know the type of people who become cops. Double down on that no sympathy.

 

You sound pretty miserable, but believe it or not there are good people in all professions.

 

 

 

 
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post #123 of 146

not the reverse racism plea :rolleyes

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You sound pretty miserable, but believe it or not there are good people in all professions.

This is true, however, the 'good' ones never report the bad ones. Also there's no other profession that I can think of that has so much power and authority over someone's life. Maybe a judge, but you see a cop before a judge.
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You sound pretty miserable, but believe it or not there are good people in all professions.

This is true, however, the 'good' ones never report the bad ones. Also there's no other profession that I can think of that has so much power and authority over someone's live. Maybe a judge, but you see a cop before a judge.


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You sound pretty miserable, but believe it or not there are good people in all professions.
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I completely agree. But like it or not that's the minority if not the vast minority. The system of protecting bad cops and targeting good cops who speak out is obviously not in their favor.

Good cops do not do anything about bad cops. I should not have to say why this is a problem. Especially considering black people get judged for the "no snithin" thing when someone in the hood gets killed and no one speaks up.
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This isn't true. They're pretty much steady or lower nationwide. If you watch the news they'll brainwash you to believe you something different.

Just like how Chicago became a Republican talking point. They exploited them by publicizing everything that occurred. We used to get Monday updates about what occurred over the weekend. But if you look at the murder rate over the past 40 years, the past 5 years has been the safest.

In New York, the past four years has been the safest.

Apparently all these republican sites are trying to brainwash people into treating civilian homicide with as much zeal as police ones. The rates may be "steady" nationwide but the major cities and inner cities are taking a hit.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/07/09/us-cities-homicide-surge-2015/29879091/

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/01/us/murder-rates-rising-sharply-in-many-us-cities.html

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34120247

 

The only time I've seen republicans citing murder rates is when they try to push for open carry laws. 

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This is true, however, the 'good' ones never report the bad ones.

 

 

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Good cops do not do anything about bad cops.

 

In general, I would agree. It's definitely a major issue. But there PLENTY of whistleblower cops who have exposed corruption past and present.

 
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This is true, however, the 'good' ones never report the bad ones.

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Good cops do not do anything about bad cops.

In general, I would agree. It's definitely a major issue. But there PLENTY of whistleblower cops who have exposed corruption past and present.

Define plenty

R.I.P. to one Christopher Dorner btw
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This is true, however, the 'good' ones never report the bad ones.

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Good cops do not do anything about bad cops.

In general, I would agree. It's definitely a major issue. But there PLENTY of whistleblower cops who have exposed corruption past and present.

Define plenty

R.I.P. to one Christopher Dorner btw


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Just an FYI on the whistleblower thing, few cops are present when something sketchy happens or an incident of excessive force. I can't speak for all departments but in New York, it's a two-man car. Just you and your partner unless it's a situation where lots of cops are present (officer in distress call).

And depending on the misconduct you're asking to be vocalized (I imagine excessive force), it's typically a sole incident by an officer who's never been alleged of it before.
And speaking to an officer who may have a history of allegations regarding excessive force, I can't imagine his partner, who they've likely worked with for years blowing the whistle on it.

Having cops report on other cops is not about the blue wall of silence. These people are the ones you see every day, for 8 & 1/2 hours (10 and 12 hours elsewhere) and are going to be the ones who show up when you, God forbid, need helpnrhe most. Its like getting family in trouble
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In general, I would agree. It's definitely a major issue. But there PLENTY of whistleblower cops who have exposed corruption past and present.

Ok, but what happens? Nothing. Actually people double down on the nonsense of "well, there's good cops too" and treat these guys like some sort of heroes that can't do no wrong. Meanwhile, the taxpayers are on the hook for their criminality and corruption.
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And depending on the misconduct you're asking to be vocalized (I imagine excessive force), it's typically a sole incident by an officer who's never been alleged of it before.
And speaking to an officer who may have a history of allegations regarding excessive force, I can't imagine his partner, who they've likely worked with for years blowing the whistle on it.

Having cops report on other cops is not about the blue wall of silence. These people are the ones you see every day, for 8 & 1/2 hours (10 and 12 hours elsewhere) and are going to be the ones who show up when you, God forbid, need helpnrhe most. Its like getting family in trouble

It almost sounds like you're trying to justify police misconduct.

Also, what you described is literally the blue wall of silence. Often, the right thing isn't the easy thing.
post #134 of 146
This man was supposed to be in prison but a liberal judge gave him the option of a drug rehab program that he failed to complete. Even the Mayor himself said that he was a violent offender and shouldn't have been given that option. The DAs office sought at least six years when she gave him that option. She has his blood on her hands. This is another reason why local elections are important.
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Even the Mayor himself said that he was a violent offender and shouldn't have been given that option. 

how can it be known that dude was a violent offender....

 

when he had no convictions for violent offenses on his record?

 

sounds like political pandering to me

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how can it be known that dude was a violent offender....

when he had no convictions for violent offenses on his record?

sounds like political pandering to me

Is that right?

http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/fatally-shot-nypd-randolph-holder-wanted-detective-article-1.2405556
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how can it be known that dude was a violent offender....

when he had no convictions for violent offenses on his record?

sounds like political pandering to me

Is that right?

http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/fatally-shot-nypd-randolph-holder-wanted-detective-article-1.2405556


from your article....

An irate Bratton blasted the May decision to spare the recidivist drug dealer with at least 23 arrests — including one for the 2009 shooting of an 11-year-old boy — from jail time.

 

 

The 2009 shooting case, which also included a 77-year-old victim, was dropped because “we didn’t have any eyewitnesses saying that he was the shooter,” a law enforcement source said.

 

 

you should really read your sources before you post links

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post #138 of 146
Meh.
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post #139 of 146
Is this an example of one of the thousands of "non violent" criminals Obama plans on releasing from prison? Yea seems smart to me.
post #140 of 146
So we're deflecting now? Cool. He has a history of violence. What does it being dropped have to do with anything? Those people live there. They have to see him and his crew EVERYDAY. The cops aren't always going to be there. If you don't have anywhere to run to, you won't cooperate like many victims don't. Y'all try so hard on here. There's someone in every hood that's killed people or done harm, but has never done a day in jail because their rep in the streets is that strong.
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So we're deflecting now? Cool. He has a history of violence. What does it being dropped have to do with anything? Those people live there. They have to see him and his crew EVERYDAY. The cops aren't always going to be there. If you don't have anywhere to run to, you won't cooperate like many victims don't. Y'all try so hard on here. There's someone in every hood that's killed people or done harm, but has never done a day in jail because their rep in the streets is that strong.

i have no idea what tangent you are running off on...

 

my point was that the mayor is saying he had a history of violence and places blame on the judge for letting him free "even when he has a violent record"

 

truth is... dude didn't have a violent record...

 

That's a fact

 

So the mayor is throwing the judge under the bus for PR and political pandering...

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post #142 of 146

This just came up on the news, some reverend organized a march and 7 people showed up.:lol

 

 

There's a nice memorial to him though which is cool I guess.

 

 

 

Yo apparently the shooter has literally been getting away with murder his whole life based on mistakes and multiple second chances. Dude shot an 11 year old girl and a 78 year old woman but he got charged as a minor when he was 24? That makes no sense. :lol He also has many drug charges that he somehow got away with a slap on the wrist like rehab and drug courts. NYC slippin':{

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Just an FYI on the whistleblower thing, few cops are present when something sketchy happens or an incident of excessive force. I can't speak for all departments but in New York, it's a two-man car. Just you and your partner unless it's a situation where lots of cops are present (officer in distress call).

And depending on the misconduct you're asking to be vocalized (I imagine excessive force), it's typically a sole incident by an officer who's never been alleged of it before.
And speaking to an officer who may have a history of allegations regarding excessive force, I can't imagine his partner, who they've likely worked with for years blowing the whistle on it.

Having cops report on other cops is not about the blue wall of silence. These people are the ones you see every day, for 8 & 1/2 hours (10 and 12 hours elsewhere) and are going to be the ones who show up when you, God forbid, need helpnrhe most. Its like getting family in trouble

Claims it's not about the blue wall of silence.

Perfectly describes the blue wall of silence.

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Just an FYI on the whistleblower thing, few cops are present when something sketchy happens or an incident of excessive force. I can't speak for all departments but in New York, it's a two-man car. Just you and your partner unless it's a situation where lots of cops are present (officer in distress call).

And depending on the misconduct you're asking to be vocalized (I imagine excessive force), it's typically a sole incident by an officer who's never been alleged of it before.
And speaking to an officer who may have a history of allegations regarding excessive force, I can't imagine his partner, who they've likely worked with for years blowing the whistle on it.

Having cops report on other cops is not about the blue wall of silence. These people are the ones you see every day, for 8 & 1/2 hours (10 and 12 hours elsewhere) and are going to be the ones who show up when you, God forbid, need helpnrhe most. Its like getting family in trouble

Claims it's not about the blue wall of silence.

Perfectly describes the blue wall of silence.

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Yea, I know...happens all the time. It's a big problem w/ the system.

Big problem in the system. Na

System itselwf whole is the problem
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