NYPD Officer Killed Chasing Suspect in East Harlem

LIONBLOOD said:
 
superblyTRIFE said:
Dog, that's what the media does. They sensationalize. WITH LITERALLY ALMOST EVERYTHING. This isn't anything new, so no, there isn't some newfangled war on the police in the media.
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"Sadly this is porbably gonna be used to push the "war on cops" nonsense even more"

My comments were directed at this statement. Of course everything is sensationalized, so the "anti-police" side of things are just as culpable for pushing agendas as the pro-police side.

Yes there is a "newfangled" media war on police. I don't even know how anyone could possibly deny that in the last 3-4 years most of what is seen about the police in the media is about what they do wrong. 
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But the media isn't anti-police.  
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  If anything, mainstream media (we're talking CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc.) is very pro-police and at the very least, neutral.  Hell, the majority of police-related killings on a given day don't even get a blip of coverage on mainstream media.  But watch how much attention this officer's unfortunate death gets.  

Discussing the dirt that cops do/have done and then questioning them when situations arise that appear to have murky details doesn't equate to a war on police.  It's simply attempting to hold them accountable, which is something many of them don't like.  And btw, the media has almost been forced into covering this **** non-stop because now we often have video proof of cops overstepping their authority.  Of course media outlets are going to take it and run with it when there's video of cops murking cats running away from them.  

But I digress.....RIP to the cop.  I hate to see anyone be the victim of senseless violence.  
 
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LIONBLOOD said:
but let a black dude get shot by the police and there's riots across the country. 
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black dudes get shot by police everyday (literally, every single day) and the vast, overwhelming majority get nothing more than a few lines in the paper or a 30 second mention in local news and nothing else for the next days news cycle.
 
LIONBLOOD said:
 
superblyTRIFE said:
 
But the media isn't anti-police.  
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  If anything, mainstream media (we're talking CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc.) is very pro-police and at the very least, neutral.  Hell, the majority of police-related killings on a given day don't even get a blip of coverage on mainstream media.  But watch how much attention this officer's unfortunate death gets.  

Discussing the dirt that cops do/have done and then questioning them when situations arise that appear to have murky details doesn't equate to a war on police.  It's simply attempting to hold them accountable, which is something many of them don't like.  And btw, the media has almost been forced into covering this **** non-stop because now we often have video proof of cops overstepping their authority.  Of course media outlets are going to take it and run with it when there's video of cops murking cats running away from them.  

But I digress.....RIP to the cop.  I hate to see anyone be the victim of senseless violence.  
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This is YOUR perspective. It's like the gas half full or half empty argument. There are many people who feel the police are under attack in the media and their point of view is just as valid as yours is. 

If it wasn't for NT I wouldn't know about this cop's death. It's actually fairly rare for police deaths to get any type of nationwide attention but let a black dude get shot by the police and there's riots across the country. Police deaths aren't news, let's be real here. 
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 The media isn't forced to do anything, they do it cause it sells. 
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 At least you admit it's being covered non-stop unlike police deaths.

It's ok to question the police, but the way people approach it it's obvious they don't give a damn about facts. 
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Dog, I worked all night and watched several news programs, including national and local news.  All broadcasts led with this officer's death.  So, if NT is where you get your news from, that's on you. 
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And no, there aren't riots across the country any time a black man gets shot by an officer, but you know that.  Dat sensationalizing.    

Oh, and in 2014 there were 133 line of duty deaths, all of which weren't homicides.  There were over 1,000 verifiable instances of an officer killing someone that same year, some justified and some not.  Facts.  That may explain the discrepancy in news coverage between the two.  

Meh...carry on, Anton.  I've helped muddy up this thread too much.  Sometimes I forget to approach you like the magical, non-African-American negro that you hope white folks see you as.  
 
Dude had 15 other arrests for drugs and shootings...but he's somehow on the streets :smh:

This is a HUGE problem.
 
JJs07 said:
Dude had 15 other arrests for drugs and shootings...but he's somehow on the streets :smh:

This is a HUGE problem.
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You would be surprised champ. Sometimes criminals are back on the streets before their criminal paperwork is even completed.
 
LIONBLOOD said:
A cop dies on duty every 3 days, doesn't make the news.
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A bit misleading, since most police officers that die on duty are killed in auto accidents or by illness.

48 police officers (out of approximately 800,000 sworn LEO's) were shot to death in the US in 2014.
 
JJs07 said:
Deuce King said:
JJs07 said:
Dude had 15 other arrests for drugs and shootings...but he's somehow on the streets :smh:

This is a HUGE problem.
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You would be surprised champ. Sometimes criminals are back on the streets before their criminal paperwork is even completed.
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Yea, I know...happens all the time. It's a big problem w/ the system.
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Maybe in Northern states. In the South you have 18 year old first time burglars getting 8+ years and in the Federal courts you have people doing football numbers on hearsay and phone conversations. I don't know where these supposed revolving doors exist.




Also this is relevant to this thread:

https://photographyisnotacrime.com/...-nypd-shooting-deaths-despite-union-rhetoric/


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/blake-fleetwood/how-dangerous-is-police-w_b_6373798.html





And @gamble , hop off my nutz and go back to window shopping in the jewelry thread for things that you will never be able to afford.


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Dathbgboy said:
Unfortunate situation, however, when you look at the state of affairs today, all the crooked cops that he didn't snitch on caused his demise.

All of the cops who killed unarmed men and women caused his demise...with help from the media of course
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Lol
 
LIONBLOOD said:
The rate of police killing is similar to the rate of blacks who get killed by cops. There are approximately 47 million black people in this country, about a third of police killing involve a black person which puts the number around 300. So 300 deaths per 47 million, a rate of .0006%. Out of the 800-900 or so police killings per year only about 160 were unarmed at the time of the killing. Yes these stats are indeed misleading. Now focusing on that unarmed population, how much of it was provoked. How many of those did the cop actually have a legitimate reason to believe the suspect was armed or a threat?
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:rofl:

Sources?
 
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LIONBLOOD said:
The rate of police killing is similar to the rate of blacks who get killed by cops. There are approximately 47 million black people in this country, about a third of police killing involve a black person which puts the number around 300. So 300 deaths per 47 million, a rate of .0006%. Out of the 800-900 or so police killings per year only about 160 were unarmed at the time of the killing. Yes these stats are indeed misleading. Now focusing on that unarmed population, how much of it was provoked. How many of those did the cop actually have a legitimate reason to believe the suspect was armed or a threat?
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Sources?
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I already posted sources that dispute this.
 
Don't be surprised when the NYPD backs off like they did in Baltimore and let the people police themselves. It's coming.
 
RIP to the young man.

Apparently the shooter is at my hospital right now.

And this investigation turned my drive from 40 minutes to 4 hrs :smh:. Ready to go smack the kufi off the shooter.
 
LIONBLOOD said:
You can laugh all you want but numbers don't lie.


http://www.cdc.gov/minorityhealth/populations/REMP/black.html
-Source for black demographic in the U.S.


http://www.mintpressnews.com/776-people-killed-by-police-so-far-in-2015-161-of-them-unarmed/209127/
I looked at the different sources, the number of blacks killed by police are 5 per million, that's 0.0005 percent.

Like someone said earlier, the number of cops in this country is about 800000, which puts the rate of police deaths about about 0.0005 to 0.0006 percent. By these numbers the police are killed by citizens at pretty much the same rate as they shoot and kill people.


Out of the number of unarmed people killed of all races is about 160-180. This unarmed population doesn't account for people who were threatening the cops in one way or another. Usually they are discovered to be unarmed after they've been killed.
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Still not seeing how those links validate your point. so your argument isn't that by a landslide more citizens are killed by police than the other way around, you're argument is that (without concert evidence) that black people and police die at the same rate am I getting this correct?

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Can't we ever just have one nice thread where everyone gives their condolences and no one tries to push an agenda?
 
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