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post #11851 of 93193

@Peep Game nice win last night,

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post #11852 of 93193
I hate when Lou Williams drives into his defender and shoots it expecting a foul to be called. Same with Nick Young kicking out his feet.
post #11853 of 93193

The thing is though,

 

in order for Harden to be in a position to "draw" a foul the defender has to lowkey be fouling / riding him anyway if that makes sense.

 

Like, he already has a step on the defender in the first place to make it happen. The defender is already in recovery mode and on his hip. This is partly why he's such a tough cover and being completely objective, he gets fouled a lot because of how often he plays downhill, and he's so big and strong. What a load to cover man.

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post #11854 of 93193

Also, semi on topic

 

Steph Curry and Russ Wes flop a whole lot but no one talks about it :lol It's a part of the game.

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post #11855 of 93193
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Just started positing in the thread and already saying foolishness. Fix up your list and then come back.
I was just adding to the conversation... No bias here... I'm just a salty Hornets fan.
post #11856 of 93193
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Also, semi on topic

Steph Curry and Russ Wes flop a whole lot but no one talks about it laugh.gif  It's a part of the game.

Because Russ is so "alpha" and Steph is so "likeable" eyes.gif

BTW, do you agree with me that Doc did a pretty bad job managing the line-ups in the game last night? Way too much Crawford; too little Lance.
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post #11857 of 93193
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1. Curry
2. LeBron
3. Westbrook
4. KD
5. Harden
6. Blake
7. CP3
8. Kawai
9. Boogie
10. AD

Fixed. Take note those who call me a homer. While true I'm a fair minded one.
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post #11858 of 93193
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Originally Posted by shoeking2102 View Post

Also, semi on topic

Steph Curry and Russ Wes flop a whole lot but no one talks about it laugh.gif  It's a part of the game.

I agreed that its annoying but I think its talked about more bc Harden lives at the line every game from it while curry and russy would be lucky if the refs gave a couple of their flop attempts lol.
post #11859 of 93193
Russ and Steph 'flop a whole lot'?

Na. Maybe if you had said, every once in a while, I'd believe you.

Honestly, does Russ know what flopping is? laugh.gif
post #11860 of 93193
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I agreed that its annoying but I think its talked about more bc Harden lives at the line every game from it while curry and russy would be lucky if the refs gave a couple of their flop attempts lol.

 

 

That's a misconception though. Harden doesn't live at the line lol his free throw rate is right in line with high volume scorers who get to the free throw line.

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post #11861 of 93193
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Stop trying to be different. Lebron is still the best in the league.

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post #11863 of 93193
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Russ and Steph 'flop a whole lot'?

Na. Maybe if you had said, every once in a while, I'd believe you.

Honestly, does Russ know what flopping is? laugh.gif

 

 

You cannot be serious with this reply. If you think Russ and Steph flop every once in awhile then I don't know what to tell you. 

 

It's this sort of bias that be irking me man :lol

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post #11864 of 93193
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The defender is already in recovery mode and on his hip.

he gets fouled a lot because of how often he plays downhill, and he's so big and strong


all of this. this is why
post #11865 of 93193
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Russ and Steph 'flop a whole lot'?

Na. Maybe if you had said, every once in a while, I'd believe you.

Honestly, does Russ know what flopping is? laugh.gif


Russ def knows what flopping is but I don't know about him doing it a whole lot. I can't cosign that.

Steph however, does flop a whole lot. Every frigging shot he takes, if you're within arms reach he's falling over :lol

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post #11866 of 93193
Boys got Westbrook over KD? tired.gifohwell.gif

I've dreaded seeing this day since RWB been trying to prove he's the man in 2011 to the tune of averaging more shot attempts per game than KD.

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post #11867 of 93193
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Stop trying to be different. Lebron is still the best in the league.

How about you stop being a sheep and make your own assumptions based on the "eye test" and also incorporate advanced and regular statistics. When you do those things without incorporating personal bias you'll realize Lebron is no longer the best player in NBA. Like i said before hes a legend in the game and still the closest to his prime compared to the players he came in with but he's no longer "THE BEST". Steph out here doing otherwordly **** fresh off a chip and MVP but were supposed to just ignore it though. What seperated Lebron from everyone else was his defense and that part of his game has fell off tremendously in the past few years regardless if you want to admit it or not. Their is absolutely nothing he does now to convince me he's a better basketball player than Steph Curry at this point in his career, let it go
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post #11868 of 93193

I'm probably the only person in this thread who believes this, but Harden could make a claim that he should get to the line moreeee than he already does. 

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Blake Griffin the 2nd best player in the league right now. Whoop :smokin

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I agreed that its annoying but I think its talked about more bc Harden lives at the line every game from it while curry and russy would be lucky if the refs gave a couple of their flop attempts lol.


That's a misconception though. Harden doesn't live at the line lol his free throw rate is right in line with high volume scorers who get to the free throw line.

Yeah he gets to the line by flopping his way there tho lol. If he gets to the line as often as other high volume scorers, doesn't that mean he kinda lives at the line? What's your definition of living at the ft line? IMO A majority of the fouls called on him look like flops. It looks like awkward basketball b and we as fans have to put up with that for an entire 48. When Steph and russy flop, they don't get the call as often as Harden and they do it shooting.
post #11871 of 93193
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Boys got Westbrook over KD? tired.gifohwell.gif

I've dreaded seeing this day since RWB been trying to prove he's the man in 2011 to the tune of averaging more shot attempts per game than KD.

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People get raw counting box score stats and hyper usage confused.

Russ ain't better than KD b/c he plays aggressive and scowls. That Alpha Westbrook **** really got y'all thinking he's a top 3 player lol. KD coming off a serious foot injury is currently averaging 30, on 50/40/90....and he's not even close to form yet.

Sad that people have turned on him.
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post #11872 of 93193

Player ranking time, hooray. Wheres Kawhi Leonard?

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Yeah he gets to the line by flopping his way there tho lol. If he gets to the line as often as other high volume scorers, doesn't that mean he kinda lives at the line? What's your definition of living at the ft line? IMO A majority of the fouls called on him look like flops. It looks like awkward basketball b and we as fans have to put up with that for an entire 48. When Steph and russy flop, they don't get the call as often as Harden and they do it shooting.

 

This just my opinion from what I see watching harden.

 

Does he do his fair share of trickory and / or flopping? Sure. Is it "Awkward basketball to watch"? I mean I guess. I was at the game last night and it didn't look all that awkward to me. When you let an offensive force like a lebron or a harden go downhill, fouls will occur and those fouls will mostly be legit. That's why they are so good.

 

But by and large, most of his fouls are pretty legit and are more a product of the defense not being able to keep him in front of him. There's not much you can do to a player besides fouling him once he's already got you on his hip, especially if they are a player as big and strong and crafty as harden. And As far as my definition of living at the line? Ummm, I don't know, all I'm saying is that if you say Harden "lives at the line" then virtually every elite scorer in league history lived at the line. You can't be an elite top tier scorer without "living at the line." 

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Player ranking time, hooray. Wheres Kawhi Leonard?

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Boys got Westbrook over KD? tired.gifohwell.gif

I've dreaded seeing this day since RWB been trying to prove he's the man in 2011 to the tune of averaging more shot attempts per game than KD.

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KD should leave OKC to Russ since he's a "nice" guy and get his own squad in DC. KD's still top 2/3

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I'm probably the only person in this thread who believes this, but Harden could make a claim that he should get to the line moreeee than he already does. 

this can also apply to everybody on the league 

post #11877 of 93193
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How about you stop being a sheep and make your own assumptions based on the "eye test" and also incorporate advanced and regular statistics. When you do those things without incorporating personal bias you'll realize Lebron is no longer the best player in NBA. Like i said before hes a legend in the game and still the closest to his prime compared to the players he came in with but he's no longer "THE BEST". Steph out here doing otherwordly **** fresh off a chip and MVP but were supposed to just ignore it though. What seperated Lebron from everyone else was his defense and that part of his game has fell off tremendously in the past few years regardless if you want to admit it or not. Their is absolutely nothing he does now to convince me he's a better basketball player than Steph Curry at this point in his career, let it go

thank you... sounds really stupid when people say in 2015 "hes still the best player in the world" ..... 

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Blake Griffin the 2nd best player in the league right now. Whoop smokin.gif

Blake been BALLING, But nobody wants to admit it though. laugh.gif. Crazy how overlooked he is.

Blake out here averaging 30/10/5....with a killer midrange jumper, elite ball handling and passing. Nothing he can't do offensively for a PF except shoot the 3 ball. That would be downright unfair if he could hit the 3 at a 30-35% clip on a decent volume.

I'm schleep though.
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post #11879 of 93193

And Yeah I don't know man, I personally think the Russ > KD argument is flat out foolish. Always have thought that. KD is just a more impactful and efficient player. 

 

If Russ left the thunder, I think the thunder would still be contenders. If KD left, I don't know if they make the playoffs. 

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Boys got Westbrook over KD? tired.gifohwell.gif

I've dreaded seeing this day since RWB been trying to prove he's the man in 2011 to the tune of averaging more shot attempts per game than KD.

The Urban Legend of Slim Reaper. Sad, Sad times

I haven't turned on KD. I can't ignore what I watched Russ do at the end of last season. Getting triple doubles at will. KDs 5-6 games back so far this year hasn't overshadowed that for me as of yet. His MVP campaign is old news now. Gotta give Russ his due until further notice.
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