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post #2281 of 93193
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Wow! I'm shocked nobody can explain besides score and handle what makes Curry better then Wall. An why Kyrie who's also a great scorer and ball handler isn't a elite PG.

First time I've ever throw out a question without anyone having a legit answer or stance. This isn't the NBA thread I'm use to.

I'll play. And I'm as big of a John Wall fan as anybody on this board. That's my guy.

Wall is a better defender and passer. Curry is an immensely better scorer...from every level, and an above average defender in his own right. Curry is also a good passer, with a better feel for the game, and has to be accounted for at ALL times. You have to understand just how insane of a shooter he is. The gravity alone of his shot opens up the flow of the offense for GS. Steph also moves the ball. His points don't have to come in isolation.

Th difference between Steph and Kyrie is Steph is a clearly a better shooter than Kyrie. And Kyrie is a good shooter in his own right. Kyrie is also a very bad defender, while Steph is above average. Additionally, Kyrie is a below average passer for a PG. Kyrie can bog down the offense with his iso ball.

I hope that explains it for you.
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post #2282 of 93193
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Originally Posted by WavyCrocket View Post

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It's Russ/Curry then CP3/Wall imo

besides you can just see Russ punking CP3 everytime then play vs each other

The last time they played each other, it was Cp3 punking Russ. This was in the midst of Russ's triple double stretch.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/3/12/8196253/2015-nba-scores-chris-paul-russell-westbrook-clippers-thunder

"Russell Westbrook has a career-high 10 turnovers.

7 of his 10 turnovers have come with Chris Paul as his primary defender."

"Russell Westbrook tonight by defender

vs Chris Paul: 7 Pts, 2-8 FG, 7 TO
vs all others: 17 Pts, 3-6 FG, 3 TO"

Paul finished with 33 points and nine assists while shooting 11-of-19 from the field

Giving Chris Paul FITS! Every time!
post #2283 of 93193
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Originally Posted by The Collector View Post

Wow! I'm shocked nobody can explain besides score and handle what makes Curry better then Wall. An why Kyrie who's also a great scorer and ball handler isn't a elite PG.

First time I've ever throw out a question without anyone having a legit answer or stance. This isn't the NBA thread I'm use to.

Easy. He can score better and more, which allows his teammates for way easier looks. 

Way more clutch and definitely is a 4th quarter player that closes the game. 

 

Curry's vision and passing is underrated by those who don't think he is. Last night showed that he is for those who forgot. Dude seriously got fancy but precise passing. He knows exactly where and who is where, like Wall but Curry just threads the needle so well. He's been showing his one touch pass lately. 

 

Kyrie doesn't set teammates up as Wall or Curry. Kyrie looks to score once he's in the offense. You barely see Kyrie set up the offense and then pass the ball to where it is needed. 
You'll see him dribble dribble and dribble, drive then maybe kick it out. Rinse and repeat. Maybe it's the offense or maybe Kyrie is the definition of a combo guard rather than a facilitation/scoring point guard. 

post #2284 of 93193
you guys really think john wall is a better passer than curry?

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #2285 of 93193
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you guys really think john wall is a better passer than curry?

Yes. Without question.
post #2286 of 93193
lowkey cavs should put kyrie on the bench, mo is a better point guard imo. dude sets up the offense, sets up other guys and scores.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

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bruh ..........seriously there is absolutely no way you guys are serious.....john wall a better passer?!? 

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post #2288 of 93193
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lowkey cavs should put kyrie on the bench, mo is a better point guard imo. dude sets up the offense, sets up other guys and scores.

mo kyrie lebron love and mozgov , starting lineup with jr smith and tt off the bench would be great for that team ....smh at some of these coaches 

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giannis is a future nba star

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giannis is a future nba star

post #2289 of 93193
steph curry is a threat from 35 ft out. it's difficult to gameplan for that. throw in his supporting cast and he is an offensive juggernaut. shooting, passing, etc. kid has it all
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ima throw this out there now....................... westbrook is the most underrated player ever , and love is the most over rated 

 

 

 

and who believes in KAT? this preseason makes me wonder if i shouldve given up kat and the #2 & #3 overall pick for boogie on 2k .....:lol

no longer the weeknd of the crew cause beauty behind the madness sucks

giannis is a future nba star

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giannis is a future nba star

post #2291 of 93193
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Originally Posted by iLLiCiT305 View Post

bruh ..........seriously there is absolutely no way you guys are serious.....john wall a better passer?!? 

Let's get one thing straight...I don't think anyone is saying Wall is a better player than Curry. Just a better passer. He's got a crazy feel for the game, and the number of easy buckets he sets up for his teammates is crazy to watch.

You should probably watch more Wizards games.

If he can stay healthy...and the Wizards offense is as legit as it was in the preseason (and last year's playoffs), you'll see Wall make even more strides.

Speaking of the Wizards offense...dude put up 8.5 assists in 22mpg in the preseason. sick.gif

*The thing about Curry is that he's going down a path where he may end up being the greatest shooter in NBA history. Unreal, if you think about it. Coupled together with being nice w/ the rock and having excellent court vision, he's going to have a LONG career in the league and set many records. He's fun as hell to watch.
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Originally Posted by Freeze View Post

you guys really think john wall is a better passer than curry?

Nope. 

 

Wall is good but not Curry 

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Let's get one thing straight...I don't think anyone is saying Wall is a better player than Curry. Just a better passer. He's got a crazy feel for the game, and the number of easy buckets he sets up for his teammates is crazy to watch.

You should probably watch more Wizards games.

If he can stay healthy...and the Wizards offense is as legit as it was in the preseason (and last year's playoffs), you'll see Wall make even more strides.

Speaking of the Wizards offense...dude put up 8.5 assists in 22mpg in the preseason. sick.gif

im with you , dont get me wrong , john wall is great , above average obviously , perennial allstar ....i understand what i put in bold here for wall , but steph curry just simply does all those things better......

no longer the weeknd of the crew cause beauty behind the madness sucks

giannis is a future nba star

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giannis is a future nba star

post #2294 of 93193
I've already said Curry is the better player. I'm the one who said Curry was the best player in the NBA after he won MVP and the Tilte. How quickly we forget.

Check the old BowB4Me tape.
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post #2295 of 93193
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Originally Posted by JJs07 View Post

Let's get one thing straight...I don't think anyone is saying Wall is a better player than Curry. Just a better passer. He's got a crazy feel for the game, and the number of easy buckets he sets up for his teammates is crazy to watch.


You should probably watch more Wizards games.


If he can stay healthy...and the Wizards offense is as legit as it was in the preseason (and last year's playoffs), you'll see Wall make even more strides.


Speaking of the Wizards offense...dude put up 8.5 assists in 22mpg in the preseason. sick.gif
im with you , dont get me wrong , john wall is great , above average obviously , perennial allstar ....i understand what i put in bold here for wall , but steph curry just simply does all those things better......

Pay attention to the corner 3s. There is no one in the league better than Wall, IMO, at setting up teammates for easy buckets from beyond the arc.
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Next to cp3....Wall is the best passer in the game. His feel and anticipation for guys that will be open is insane.

This is a guy that was averaging 8.5apg as a rookie with Andre Blatche, Jordam Crawford and Nick Young getting significant minutes and touches.

Let that sink in.
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post #2297 of 93193
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Originally Posted by The Collector View Post

I've already said Curry is the better player. I'm the one who said Curry was the best player in the NBA after he won MVP and the Tilte. How quickly we forget.

Check the old BowB4Me tape.

You're BowB4Me???

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Originally Posted by The Collector View Post

I've already said Curry is the better player. I'm the one who said Curry was the best player in the NBA after he won MVP and the Tilte. How quickly we forget.


Check the old BowB4Me tape.
You're BowB4Me???

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Regardless who is better at passing, it doesn't downplay the fact that these guys that are mentioned, are all great facilitator, except for Kyrie. 

All the rest, feed their guys right where the ball needs to be. 

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You're BowB4Me???

Yes. Lost my old SN password. So I'm stuck with this generic stupid name. Smh
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post #2301 of 93193
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Originally Posted by WavyCrocket View Post

Next to cp3....Wall is the best passer in the game. His feel and anticipation for guys that will be open is insane.

This is a guy that was averaging 8.5apg as a rookie with Andre Blatche, Jordam Crawford and Nick Young getting significant minutes and touches.

Let that sink in.

elfrid payton averaged like 8 assists , without any offensive game , on the MAGIC ......if he was dropping 10+ id give him some respect but yeah....he has the ball in his hands 80% or more of the time , your going to get assists ......look at MCW a couple of years ago lol 

no longer the weeknd of the crew cause beauty behind the madness sucks

giannis is a future nba star

no longer the weeknd of the crew cause beauty behind the madness sucks

giannis is a future nba star

post #2302 of 93193
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Originally Posted by iLLiCiT305 View Post
 

ima throw this out there now....................... westbrook is the most underrated player ever , and love is the most over rated 

 

 

 

and who believes in KAT? this preseason makes me wonder if i shouldve given up kat and the #2 & #3 overall pick for boogie on 2k .....:lol

 

Kevin Love is the most overrated player ever?

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Wall was tied 7th in double doubles last season. Curry was 20th. How in the world is he a better passer?
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post #2304 of 93193
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Originally Posted by The Collector View Post


Yes. Lost my old SN password. So I'm stuck with this generic stupid name. Smh

Lol Just get that password back. 

Im over here thinking whos this dude that love the Wizards so much, but now I get it. hahahahahaha

Cool, cool. 

post #2305 of 93193
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Originally Posted by WavyCrocket View Post

Next to cp3....Wall is the best passer in the game. His feel and anticipation for guys that will be open is insane.

This is a guy that was averaging 8.5apg as a rookie with Andre Blatche, Jordam Crawford and Nick Young getting significant minutes and touches.

Let that sink in.

Think about all the bunnies that are botched due to Gortat/Nene laugh.gif They're good for 3-4 of those per game.

I'm REALLY excited about the Wizards offense this year. A lot of PnR, 3's, etc.

Health is the key...but if these guys stay true to what they did in the playoffs and preseason, anything short of 50 wins will be a disappointment. I personally think they'll win between 52-55...but again, they have to keep reasonably good health. Big year for both Beal and Porter.

CANT WAIT.
post #2306 of 93193
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Originally Posted by angels47 View Post
 

 

Kevin Love is the most overrated player ever?

to me so far , you might remind me of someone from the 2000's though so let me know , chime in . 

no longer the weeknd of the crew cause beauty behind the madness sucks

giannis is a future nba star

no longer the weeknd of the crew cause beauty behind the madness sucks

giannis is a future nba star

post #2307 of 93193
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Originally Posted by JJs07 View Post

Pay attention to the corner 3s. There is no one in the league better than Wall, IMO, at setting up teammates for easy buckets from beyond the arc.

FACTS. Just take a look at Trevor Ariza's 3ptFG% when he was with Wall. Wall had Rasual Butler looking like Kyle Korver for half the season last year laugh.gif
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post #2308 of 93193
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Originally Posted by iLLiCiT305 View Post

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Originally Posted by WavyCrocket View Post

Next to cp3....Wall is the best passer in the game. His feel and anticipation for guys that will be open is insane.


This is a guy that was averaging 8.5apg as a rookie with Andre Blatche, Jordam Crawford and Nick Young getting significant minutes and touches.


Let that sink in.
elfrid payton averaged like 8 assists , without any offensive game , on the MAGIC ......if he was dropping 10+ id give him some respect but yeah....he has the ball in his hands 80% or more of the time , your going to get assists ......look at MCW a couple of years ago lol 

Where are you getting 8 assists from?
post #2309 of 93193
nah, when it's clutch time, dudes gonna sit back and dare john wall to shoot. he can rack up 20 asts, but when it counts is he gonna make the plays like curry?
dont get me wrong, wall is great, but seriously, curry is on a different level with westbrook
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Where are you getting 8 assists from?

yeah i was off , he did 6.5 

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