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People judge how hard it is for him to let go of who and what he was. Very few can ever say they were the best of their era, in the world. To be recognized by their peers as the current best. Or to know everytime you went out to do whatever it is that you do, that there is no one better. That is hard to let go of. I keep hearing all the, well I wish he could be like a paul pierce and Tim Duncan/Dirk. That's damn near blasphemous. As good as they are, with as many accolades as Tim has, They have never once felt that light that kobe had. They climbed high, but they never stood at the very top and looked down on everyone. Kobe had a lot of things he took from Mikes game, but dude was another one of those once in a lifetime talents. He, maybe more than anyone, showed the importance of hard work and honing your craft.

Wow, just stop man. Kobe has never "stood at the very top and looked down on everyone." That's just YOU stans thinking that. Hell, you guys put him RIGHT up there with MJ after his second ring.

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As good as they are, with as many accolades as Tim has, They have never once felt that light that kobe had. They climbed high, but they never stood at the very top and looked down on everyone.

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Can't be serious.

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That's damn near blasphemous. As good as they are, with as many accolades as Tim has, They have never once felt that light that kobe had. They climbed high, but they never stood at the very top and looked down on everyone.

I'm not here to argue about Kobe as a player but...

Don't let Kobe's retirment goad you into saying things that are contested opinions as if they are obvious facts.

it is not "blasphemous, you can very easily mount a logical argument against everything you just said, agree with it or disagree but to act like it isn't a point that is constatnly being disputed is just wrong.

when has Tim EVER been that guy in the NBA? Hell, when the Spurs were rolling, nobody wanted to watch them play. Stern didn't even want to put them on tv. I'm not saying he's not an all-time basketball player, but he was never a blinding light. Dude gave you great numbers and steady consistency, but besides that one huge fling shot he had that one game, he wasnt, by my observation, on anyones radar as far as being the best, besides being the best PF of all time. When was Tim the best player in the NBA? What year? I need dates b.

Idk who has said Kobe is better than Mike. He's not. Mike is the Goat.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

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Dudes comparing Duncan to Kobe like the teams and coaching is equal. Spurs have many guys who can take the pressure off Tim late in his career.

 

yeah it's totally dumb

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post #23495 of 93193
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the fact kobe got hit with the rape case in the prime of his career, hit rock bottom, stuck with it, won 2 more titles, repaired his image and made everyone forget is truly a testament to him as a player/person, this gets overlooked alot.

I couldn't imagine [ insert current NBA superstar here ] getting hit with a scandal of that same scale, coming back, winning titles, MVP's, public favor and wiping the slate clean.

Dude spent the whole days in court, facing serious jail time, and then went to the arena and dropped 40 that same night. Every night. How can you just turn that off? Son was a sociopath lol

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #23496 of 93193
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that pic real or shopped? KD tall af lmaoooo

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

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Okafor out here like Beiber early years.

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Lakers tho...

post #23498 of 93193
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Dude spent the whole days in court, facing serious jail time, and then went to the arena and dropped 40 that same night. Every night. How can you just turn that off? Son was a sociopath lol

that‘s completion anxiety.
post #23499 of 93193
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yeah it's totally dumb

laugh.gif Oh, so now it's dumb huh? Y'all used to do that ALL the time with Kobe vs (insert superstar player with bum team). mean.gif
post #23500 of 93193
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the fact kobe got hit with the rape case in the prime of his career, hit rock bottom, stuck with it, won 2 more titles, repaired his image and made everyone forget is truly a testament to him as a player/person, this gets overlooked alot.

I couldn't imagine [ insert current NBA superstar here ] getting hit with a scandal of that same scale, coming back, winning titles, MVP's, public favor and wiping the slate clean.

Dude spent the whole days in court, facing serious jail time, and then went to the arena and dropped 40 that same night. Every night. How can you just turn that off? Son was a sociopath lol

Duncan gonna just coast off into the sunset now since kobe announced... tim aint gonna outshine hes just gonna play & never come back next yr laugh.gif
post #23501 of 93193
I was expecting to agree with KD but he came off like a hurt girlfriend

"Leave Kobe alone!"

Nothing wrong with talking about how bad he's playing this year, not that it would make a difference on this trash heap of a team. But people saying that he is ruining his legacy are idiots.

10 years from now no one will care about this season, only the championships, as we do with all the greats

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when has Tim EVER been that guy in the NBA? Hell, when the Spurs were rolling, nobody wanted to watch them play. Stern didn't even want to put them on tv. I'm not saying he's not an all-time basketball player, but he was never a blinding light. Dude gave you great numbers and steady consistency, but besides that one huge fling shot he had that one game, he wasnt, by my observation, on anyones radar as far as being the best, besides being the best PF of all time. When was Tim the best player in the NBA? What year? I need dates b.

So because Kobe was more popular and flashy than Tim Duncan, Timmy never was the "guy" or "reached that mountain top" that Kobe did and looked down on the rest of the NBA as you put it? Here are some absolute facts for you about Tim Duncam from 99-05.

Tim Duncan has 3 Finals MVP's.

Tim Dumcan is a 2X back to back league MVP. 2002-2003.

One of his finals MVP's came in the same year that he was also League MVP.

Again, idk how you can be a back to back MVP and 3X finals MVP in that time span and NOT be considered arguably the best player in the NBA.

That's on you if you didn't consider him that. But he definitely was.
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when has Tim EVER been that guy in the NBA? Hell, when the Spurs were rolling, nobody wanted to watch them play. Stern didn't even want to put them on tv. I'm not saying he's not an all-time basketball player, but he was never a blinding light. Dude gave you great numbers and steady consistency, but besides that one huge fling shot he had that one game, he wasnt, by my observation, on anyones radar as far as being the best, besides being the best PF of all time. When was Tim the best player in the NBA? What year? I need dates b.

So because Kobe was more popular and flashy than Tim Duncan, Timmy never was the "guy" or "reached that mountain top" that Kobe did and looked down on the rest of the NBA as you put it? Here are some absolute facts for you about Tim Duncam from 99-05.

Tim Duncan has 3 Finals MVP's.

Tim Dumcan is a 2X back to back league MVP. 2002-2003.

One of his finals MVP's came in the same year that he was also League MVP.

Again, idk how you can be a back to back MVP and 3X finals MVP in that time span and NOT be considered arguably the best player in the NBA.

That's on you if you didn't consider him that. But he definitely was.

bro, it's deeper than stats.


Show me a quote where his peers said he's the best player on the planet. Plenty of players at different times have said it about Kobe.

Lakers tho...

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Yeah but part of being regarded as the best player in the NBA, is being popular...Especially to the casual fan. Whether or not you agree with Kobe always being better or whatever is completely different than who was that dude...It's unquestionably Kobe. Just like for kids now, it's Bron. That's part of the mountain top
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bro, it's deeper than stats.


Show me a quote where his peers said he's the best player on the planet. Plenty of players at different times have said it about Kobe.

These probably the same players that voted James Harden the MVP last year and watched too many ESPN highlights growing up.
post #23507 of 93193
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Dirk Nowitzki on Kobe Bryant retiring: “It’s disappointing. A lot of these warriors that were drafted in the ‘90s are slowly fading away. And it’s obviously toward the end for us all. It’s a little sad. But I’m happy for him that he made that decision for himself. It could lift a little weight off his shoulder. To me, he’s probably the greatest player I’ve faced. And I’ve faced some great players with Tim Duncan and Shaq and all these guys. But he was something else, just scoring-wise, the shot-making ability was incredible. I was always a big fan. But it’s disappointing that we’re all getting old."
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bro, it's deeper than stats.


Show me a quote where his peers said he's the best player on the planet. Plenty of players at different times have said it about Kobe.

These probably the same players that voted James Harden the MVP last year and watched too many ESPN highlights growing up.

Neither one of those deals with the other in the slightest. What a terrible way to attempt to link any of that laugh.gif
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bro, it's deeper than stats.


Show me a quote where his peers said he's the best player on the planet. Plenty of players at different times have said it about Kobe.

So Peers considering you the best player on the planet >>>> actual being the best player on the planet. Got you.

Steph Curry's peers just said James Harden was the MVP a few months ago.
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I've said this before but there isn't a single year where Kobe was the undisputed bes tplayer in the NBA, it was always an argument.

So pretend like it wasn't just because his retiring is pretty silly.
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Neither one of those deals with the other in the slightest. What a terrible way to attempt to link any of that laugh.gif

How so?

He's mentioning peers thinking one way and i gave an example of peers doing something similar.
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So Peers considering you the best player on the planet >>>> actual being the best player on the planet. Got you.

Steph Curry's peers just said James Harden was the MVP a few months ago.

Excactly!!

But apparently, that one dude thinks it doesn't deal with the other in the slightest. eyes.gif
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I've said this before but there isn't a single year where Kobe was the undisputed bes tplayer in the NBA, it was always an argument.

So pretend like it wasn't just because his retiring is pretty silly.
To be fair most people who think this way thought this way long before he was retiring.

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I've said this before but there isn't a single year where Kobe was the undisputed bes tplayer in the NBA, it was always an argument.

So pretend like it wasn't just because his retiring is pretty silly.

i feel like he def stole at least a couple 1st team all nba from dwade
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I've said this before but there isn't a single year where Kobe was the undisputed bes tplayer in the NBA, it was always an argument.

So pretend like it wasn't just because his retiring is pretty silly.

i feel like he def stole at least a couple 1st team all nba from dwade

You sir are correct,All-defense as well...
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This is a classic case of random people on the internet thinking they know more than people who have spent years on the same basketball court as the man

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post #23518 of 93193
It‘s obviously Kobe was popular and marketable. That‘s a given. They call it charisma. It‘s an intangible force that can often over shadow things. As someone has said, the Kobe fans and Laker fans can some times cross over.

Its obvious and with out a doubt that Kobe has cemented himself like no other, but the thing most people forget is that he had guys around him. He had Phil, Shaq, Pau, Artest, Lamar, Fisher, Horry, etc.

What bugs people is when Kobe fans disregard this, trying to claim his heorics and stats were just his own doing!! It is not his own doing. The Kobe pics with 5 trophies is propaganda for people who don‘t know basketball.

To this day, it is with out a doubt that Kobe was Robin for the first 3 rings.

Validation by peers and predecessors is another thing in itself. TD, Nowitzki, and MJ validation would hold MORE substance than WB, KD, and LBJ.
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What an idiot :lol This doesn't work when everyone knows who you are and can literally just google your age :{ 

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