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Originally Posted by pretty tony View Post

OKC beat writer reported that both KD and Russ both exchanged pleasantries after the game. Sounds like their comments after the game were trolling.

I also watched how ESPN took a story about KD talking about how close he and Russ were during his OK hall of fame speech...and turned that into a story with the headline "KD denies rift with Westbrook".

I'll never side with the media over a player
TF
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they inducted him in the OK HOF? they really going all out. might as well start building a statue and renaming the court.
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but seriously, congrats to kd for his contribution off and on the court


is this really a "dunked-on" or "dunk-by"
KP the god was turning
didnt know marcus thornton was still in the league
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Originally Posted by TheRealRell View Post

It ain't whining. Its the truth. The media waited for Kobe to play the worst of his career to take shots and digs at him. For those who watch baseball, Derek Jeter was awful his last few years. **** the 3,000 hits. He was terrible and the media never took the shots at him that they are doing Kobe which is what Durant said. A lot of this is personal because at times Kobe was antagonistic towards them and they are salivating. One minute the media is your friend, the next they hate you.
To be fair it's clearer to the naked eye a washed up basketball player than baseball player. Especially one that chucks 20 shots a game at a 30 percent clip.
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I must say Martell Webster is one hell of a robber.
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Originally Posted by Vincent Van Ho View Post

Ryan Chris Bosh Hollins signs with the Wizards and they've also waived Martell Webster. Interesting 

That's a upgrade. Web was out for the year anyway.
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I must say Martell Webster is one hell of a robber.

Completely forgot he was a prep to pro player, his draft (2005) was the last to allow preps to get drafted

 

Bynum, Green, Miles, Monta, Lou Will etc.

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I must say Martell Webster is one hell of a robber.

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I wonder how different the league would be if they still let people go straight into the NBA from HS
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Completely forgot he was a prep to pro player, his draft (2005) was the last to allow preps to get drafted

Bynum, Green, Miles, Monta, Lou Will etc.

This class ruined it for everyone. Once a ton of roleplayers and non-top 10 prospects started coming out, it was a wrap. They took it too far.
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The media ask rhetorical and idiotic types of question. Its as if every beat writer has to repackage the words for a different delivery, which ultimately is the same thing. They get asked the same thing pre game, half time, after game, in locker room, etc. etc.

The type of questions are intended to get under their skins too. Funny when they explode like Dennis Green though.
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This class ruined it for everyone. Once a ton of roleplayers and non-top 10 prospects started coming out, it was a wrap. They took it too far.

 

And making them go to school for one year changed what exactly?

 

 

Because there damn sure are non-top 10 prospect one and done's coming into the league.

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Tyreke Evans, Norris Cole officially listed as questionable for Tuesday

Evans and Cole both seem to be on the right side of the questionable tag, which would certainly muddy the waters in terms of rotations at the guard/wing spots. Evans and Cole will greatly diminish the value of Ish Smith, who is still seeing big minutes with Jrue Holiday working his way back to full strength. Eric Gordon's value also takes a dip if the Pelicans don't want to keep running him for heavy minutes night in and night out.

"I apologize, turns out it was not the Thunder's year.  I wish they hadn't played the games"

 

 

"I apologize, turns out it was not the Thunder's year.  I wish they hadn't played the games"

 

 

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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh View Post

The ability to play a sport will =/= the ability to understand and explicate the mechanics behind the sport.

It's the same reason why the best players don't make the best coaches, the same reason that Hakeem isn't the best player development coach.




I'll give you an example, ask Steph Curry or other great shooters what makes a great 3 point shooters, they will say go "straight up straight down," feet square to the basket"


Must be good advice coming from Steph Curry right?


Wrong.


Steph doesn't square/sholders his feet to the basket, and he doesn't go straight up straight, basically ZERO great shooters do. THeir body is usually at a 45 degree angle, and they DON'T go straight up adn down they actually jump sweep ther feet forward, sway there shoulders back and turn as they shoot.




Steph Curry the greatest shooter in the world doesn't even know how his OWN jumpshot works, but somehow I'm supposed to assume his opinion is superior to my own? Nah.

I'm not saying there experience is worthless but it isn't an automatic trump card.

this is every thing wrong with the modern no work experience college kid thinking hes hot **** because he can quote a few vocabulary words from a textbook and answer a few written test questions without ever doing anything practical.

 

knowledge without action is useless.

 

you know damn well you wouldnt even be talking this nonsense if it wasnt about kobe.

 

i would hope you have played basketball at any level at some point in your life before to understand this example:

 

if two players from two opposing teams get matched up with you each time you play said teams, and you struggle every time you face player A but feel like being matched up with player B is not that bad. are you really going to have any respect for the nerd in the 5th row who tells you after the game "but actually player B is a harder matchup" because of some spreadsheets?

 

the best way to understand the effectiveness of anything in life is to look at what is being effected.

 

If you're a teacher it doesnt matter if you have mastered every textbook student engagement method there is, if the kids learn more from some guy with no formal training then he is the better teacher.

 

If you're a boxer going on ESPN sport science and having some one who has never been hit before tell you that his computer says you have the most powerful punches in the world doesnt mean anything if your opponents know its the other guy who does more damage.

 

If you're Eminem I could personally write an essay on how the complex rhyme schemes and lyricism of MMLP2 make it the best album in the past few years. But it doesnt mean anything when the people who listen to the music find a bunch of other albums more enjoyable.

 

mechanics are great, I spend way too much of my time breaking things down and figuring out why things work like they do. but its all about the end result, if your peers feel like you are the best player of your generation that is all that matters. 

 

 

I mean, how arrogant, insecure and snobby does one have to be to sit behind a computer having accomplished nothing of importance in life and boast about knowing more about shooting a jumpshot than steph curry, the greatest shooter in the history of basketball?

 

Go do something with your life, maybe if you actually accomplish something rather than just knowing about the mechanics you wont feel the need to type these nonsense quotes to boost your ego.

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A Few dudes like that on here . cause they talk educated , they think they know what they talking are talking bout .
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Edited by EarldaGoat - 11/30/15 at 4:32pm
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A Few dudes like that on here . cause they talk educated , they think they know what they talking are talking bout .

there are two kinds of people in the nba thead

 

those that enjoy the community and have fun taking about basketball

 

and those who post pseudo-intellectual nonsense in a sorry attempt to boost their fragile ego 

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"When I die I want the Knicks/Jets to carry my casket so they can let me down one last time"

 

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Nah man OKB is a pretty solid poster.

He's not right about everything but he tries to explain his opnions though.
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S/O to @EarldaGoat for the santa hat any :Nthat:Nthat

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NBA tv pre game show with 'Los Boozer. :lol

 

 

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never forget. 0]

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this is every thing wrong with the modern no work experience college kid thinking hes hot **** because he can quote a few vocabulary words from a textbook and answer a few written test questions without ever doing anything practical.

knowledge without action is useless.

you know damn well you wouldnt even be talking this nonsense if it wasnt about kobe.

i would hope you have played basketball at any level at some point in your life before to understand this example:

if two players from two opposing teams get matched up with you each time you play said teams, and you struggle every time you face player A but feel like being matched up with player B is not that bad. are you really going to have any respect for the nerd in the 5th row who tells you after the game "but actually player B is a harder matchup" because of some spreadsheets?

the best way to understand the effectiveness of anything in life is to look at what is being effected.

If you're a teacher it doesnt matter if you have mastered every textbook student engagement method there is, if the kids learn more from some guy with no formal training then he is the better teacher.

If you're a boxer going on ESPN sport science and having some one who has never been hit before tell you that his computer says you have the most powerful punches in the world doesnt mean anything if your opponents know its the other guy who does more damage.

If you're Eminem I could personally write an essay on how the complex rhyme schemes and lyricism of MMLP2 make it the best album in the past few years. But it doesnt mean anything when the people who listen to the music find a bunch of other albums more enjoyable.

mechanics are great, I spend way too much of my time breaking things down and figuring out why things work like they do. but its all about the end result, if your peers feel like you are the best player of your generation that is all that matters. 


I mean, how arrogant, insecure and snobby does one have to be to sit behind a computer having accomplished nothing of importance in life and boast about knowing more about shooting a jumpshot than steph curry, the greatest shooter in the history of basketball?

Go do something with your life, maybe if you actually accomplish something rather than just knowing about the mechanics you wont feel the need to type these nonsense quotes to boost your ego.


Whoa cheif...did I touch a nerve? laugh.gif

You always seems so concerned, constantly griping about imaginary nerds tyrannically judging your intelligence while sitting on a thrown of spread sheets. I think one of us is in desperate need of an ego boost, and its not me.

I'm not going to gon on and on with this because this is clearly something that is more...personal for you.


But the idea that doing and teaching are two different skill sets is not that is something shocking or revolutionary. It's confirmed by the construction of our society and it's confirmed by I don't know the entire history of organized sports.


Wayne Gretsky is a terrible coach.
Michael Jordan is a terrible GM.
Hakeem Olajuwan is a bad skills development coach.
Magic Johnson is a terrible analyst.


Understanding and being able to explain WHY something happens is a different skills set than being able to MAKE something happen. It's not complex or contreversial. laugh.gif
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I see seamanup in other threads, so I forget that he's capable of writing long essays.

I remember now.

Not that there's anything wrong with long essays lol
Edited by amel223 - 11/30/15 at 4:49pm
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there are two kinds of people in the nba thead

 

those that enjoy the community and have fun taking about basketball

 

and those who post pseudo-intellectual nonsense in a sorry attempt to boost their fragile ego 

truer words have never been spoken. .... :lol .... 

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It's also hilarious, that the guy who spends most of his time getting off cheap jokes and calling NBA players "losers"


Players who without exception are more successful at their chosen profession then any of us will be at anything we attempt to do.




So wait who is trying to boost their ego here? laugh.gif





I think I understand; every time you call Chris Paul a loser, you feel a little better about your own existence...so who am I to take that away from you?

*shrugs*
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But the idea that doing and teaching are two different skill sets is not that is something shocking or revolutionary. It's confirmed by the construction of our society and it's confirmed by I don't know the entire history of organized sports.


Wayne Gretsky is a terrible coach.
Michael Jordan is a terrible GM.
Hakeem Olajuwan is a bad skills development coach.
Magic Johnson is a terrible analyst.


Understanding and being able to explain WHY something happens is a different skills set than being able to MAKE something happen. It's not complex or contreversial. laugh.gif

this is not about teaching, this is about the effectiveness of a players actions. there is no better evaluator of that than the same people on the floor as the player.

 

it doesnt matter that wayne gretsky is a terrible coach, that is a totally different skill than physically matching up with a player and finding out he's tougher to play than the next guy

 

it doesnt matter that michael jordan is a terrible GM, that is a totally different skill than physically matching up with a player and finding out he's tougher to play than the next guy

 

it doesnt matter that hakeem is a bad skills development coach, that is a totally different skill than physically matching up with a player and finding out he's tougher to play than the next guy

 

it doesnt matter that magic johnson is a terrible analyst, that is a totally different skill than physically matching up with a player and finding out he's tougher to play than the next guy

 

your straw man arguments are making you look foolish.

 

it doesnt matter that byron scott is the worst coach in basketball, if he thinks that john stockton was a better player than gary payton from personal experience then that's all there is to it. your spreadsheets dont mean anything, your 45 degree angles dont mean anything, your true shooting % doesnt mean anything. If the people who have actually put in the work in life to step on a basketball court think a player is the best then that's all that matters. i'm sorry but all your pride in what you know is worthless, it wont change the experiences of people who have actually faced these all time greats. 

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All this because someone thinks TD is greater than Kobe? That's not an unpopular opinion. I'm sure plenty of players are gonna be calling TD the greatest player of this generation once he retires. Obviously no current player is going to open that can of worms now and call Kobe the 2nd or 3rd best.
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this is not about teaching, this is about the effectiveness of a players actions. there is no better evaluator of that than the same people on the floor as the player.

it doesnt matter that wayne gretsky is a terrible coach, that is a totally different skill than physically matching up with a player and finding out he's tougher to play than the next guy

it doesnt matter that michael jordan is a terrible GM, that is a totally different skill than physically matching up with a player and finding out he's tougher to play than the next guy

it doesnt matter that hakeem is a bad skills development coach, that is a totally different skill than physically matching up with a player and finding out he's tougher to play than the next guy

it doesnt matter that magic johnson is a terrible analyst, that is a totally different skill than physically matching up with a player and finding out he's tougher to play than the next guy

your straw man arguments are making you look foolish.

it doesnt matter that byron scott is the worst coach in basketball, if he thinks that john stockton was a better player than gary payton from personal experience then that's all there is to it. your spreadsheets dont mean anything, your 45 degree angles dont mean anything, your true shooting % doesnt mean anything. If the people who have actually put in the work in life to step on a basketball court think a player is the best then that's all that matters. i'm sorry but all your pride in what you know is worthless, it wont change the experiences of people who have actually faced these all time greats. 


No it's not actually a strawman it's the essential crux of the argument. Having an experience vs being able to put that experience into context. The experience is worthless if you can't understand how it applys to the question.

being good enough to play in the NBA is not the same as having the mental equity to accurately gauge the value of anecdotal experience vs all the other available evidence and accuatley ***** the value of a player.


Steve Jobs had no experience as a programmer, no experience as engineer, but he had an ability to understand and apply these disprate concepts towards solving a problem. Ultimatley all the experience in the world wasn't going to make the Iphone. But steve Jobs did.




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I really can't belive I'm explaining this.
Edited by Osh Kosh Bosh - 11/30/15 at 5:17pm
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