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I don't want to hear any excuses if the Clippers lose tonight. Clips missing one player. We're missing half the team.

Don't think we've made excuses for losses all season. We know we're capable of losing to anyone on any given night. Blake playing or otherwise.

And I like how you said the Clippers are just missing "one guy," as if it isn't the best player on the team and a top 10 player in the league. But either way, if we lose, we lose. Good luck.
Edited by lawdog1 - 12/28/15 at 8:58am
" . . . what a long, strange trip its been . . . " The Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" (and a good summary of my life as an LA Clippers fan)
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post #35792 of 93193
yall see the thing derrick Williams was robbed & possibly ruphied by laugh.gif
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This vid and that new Cousins Pepsi update commercial are laugh.giflaugh.gif
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yall see the thing derrick Williams was robbed & possibly ruphied by laugh.gif

Naw man. Info laugh.gifnerd.gifmean.gif
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RIP Meadowlark Lemon
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RIP Meadowlark Lemon

What? Damn man. RIP to the legend. Always wanted his Throwback jersey back in the jersey era.
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yall see the thing derrick Williams was robbed & possibly ruphied by laugh.gif

 

DW must think he's Lou Williams or something, but he ain't bout that life.


Edited by EarldaGoat - 12/28/15 at 10:08am
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yall see the thing derrick Williams was robbed & possibly ruphied by laugh.gif

I saw the black and white video of the 2 alleged robbers.

 

I'd cut both of them. Today

"I apologize, turns out it was not the Thunder's year.  I wish they hadn't played the games"

 

 

"I apologize, turns out it was not the Thunder's year.  I wish they hadn't played the games"

 

 

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Ran into Aaron Harrison at the mall in Charlotte yesterday. Cool dude, pretty quiet. Felt pretty crazy randomly meeting somebody that I had screamed at through the TV for two years at UK laugh.gif

Hating him then sucking him him like a fan smh
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yall see the thing derrick Williams was robbed & possibly ruphied by laugh.gif

Naw man. Info laugh.gifnerd.gifmean.gif

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A 19-year-old NJ woman has been accused of picking up at least five men in Midtown and robbing them of watches, cash, and more.

According to police, Alexandra Martinez was arrested on Monday in connection with five incidents over the last five months. Martinez, who has an arm-length tattoo that reads "Love yourself so no one has to," allegedly drugged at least two of the men by slipping mickeys into their cocktails to knock them out.

The News reports Martinez was first arrested on July 22nd, for swiping a wallet from a man she met at West Village wine bar Gottino. On August 24th, she allegedly went to a victim’s hotel room at the Ritz Carlton and left with his watch. On September 4th, she allegedly met a man at a bar, returned to his condo in Brooklyn Heights, and stole his jewelry box, which contained $40,000 in jewelry, including three Rolex watches and a Breitling.

And on Thanksgiving, she allegedly boosted a $10,000-plus Rolex and about $800 in cash from a 44-year-old man. The Post adds that Martinez had an accomplice for at least two of the thefts:

Martinez...had an accomplice in the Brooklyn jobs and picked their victims based on the value of their watches, prosecutors said.
“They typically meet the male victims at clubs or restaurants. The victims are usually wearing Rolex watches,” prosecutor Wilfredo Cotto said.

After working their way into the men’s luxury apartments, Martinez allegedly mixed drinks that knocked out the victims, who would later “awake to find their property missing,” Cotto said.


Martinez has been charged with five counts of grand larceny, and was released on $50,000 bond. Despite the similarities in the cases, she has not been linked to the $750K watch robbery of Knicks player Derrick Williams.


http://gothamist.com/2015/12/24/derrick_williams_ladies.php
Edited by ColdCity - 12/28/15 at 10:08am
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Yea, that's not the bird I saw that robbed Derrick.

 

These are the 2.

 

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2015/12/617k_in_jewelry_stolen_from_knicks_derrick_william.html

"I apologize, turns out it was not the Thunder's year.  I wish they hadn't played the games"

 

 

"I apologize, turns out it was not the Thunder's year.  I wish they hadn't played the games"

 

 

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

Matt Barnes will serve a two-game suspension, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

 

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

The NBA is suspending Memphis' Matt Barnes for off-court incident with Knicks coach Derek Fisher, league source tells Yahoo Sports.

 
 
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post #35803 of 93193
the suspects were two girls





http://national.suntimes.com/national-sports/7/72/2343471/nypd-looking-two-women-derrick-williams-750k-robbery/

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that's ridiculous. iverson was playing 42m during his prime years. russ should be able to do that without a problem. you may limit kd a little because of his prior injuries, but there should be no time in the gm where both are off the court.

The game is a lot different now. It's significantly faster (more possessions), it's more complex, there's more movement on both sides of the ball, more three pointers (leading to tired legs), etc. Coaches aren't trotting out guys for 42 minutes per game anymore because players will wear down.

To compare, here's the Top 20 MPG guys in the 2000-01 season (scroll down). The lowest played 39.3 MPG. Michael Finley was leading the league at 42 MPG lol. This season, James Harden leads the league with 38.1 MPG, and the lowest guy in the Top 20 averages 35 MPG. That is a huge difference, and all because of the way the game has changed. You cannot run Russell Westbrook 42+ MPG over 82 games.

you absolutely can. russ wouldn't have to have the ball in his hands the whole gm as he can rely on kd to run the offense as well.
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Williams, who signed a two-year $8.8 million contract before the season, discovered his valuables missing when he woke up at 4 p.m.

My guy a millionaire waking up at 4pm? mean.gif I'm jelly as hell, jewels or not.
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January 16th: New York Knicks at Memphis Grizzlies

 

Popcorn has been purchased 

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

Matt Barnes will serve a two-game suspension, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.
9:43 AM - 28 Dec 2015


Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

The NBA is suspending Memphis' Matt Barnes for off-court incident with Knicks coach Derek Fisher, league source tells Yahoo Sports.
9:31 AM - 28 Dec 2015
 
 

 

 

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RIP Meadowlark Lemon
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RIP Meadowlark Lemon

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laugh.gif @ Derrick Williams
But these bishes are really heartless out there mean.gif
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was this posted nerd.gif
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http://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/14448751/ranking-karl-anthony-towns-kristaps-porzingis-2015-rookies-future-potential-nba

Can Anybody with ESPN insider post full article please

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Monday, December 28, 2015
Ranking Porzingis, Towns and the top 10 rookies by future potential
By Chad Ford and Kevin Pelton
ESPN Staff Writers

Karl-Anthony Towns and Kristaps Porzingis
Which rookie has the brighter future, Karl-Anthony Towns or Kristaps Porzingis?

For the past several years, ESPN Insider's Chad Ford and Kevin Pelton have simulated the kind of discussions that are taking place in front offices around the NBA -- in which scouts and statistical experts break down NBA prospects using their "eyes, ears and numbers." This season, those conversations are extending beyond the NBA draft to include prospects in their rookie or sophomore seasons.

Which rookie has the most potential?

Kevin Pelton: Now that they've got two months of NBA experience under their belts, let's rank the crop of 2015 rookies in terms of their potential going forward. The top two spots seem pretty obvious, but there might be some uncertainty about the order.

At No. 1, I'm going to go with the top pick last June: Minnesota Timberwolves center Karl-Anthony Towns. Towns has been everything we expected and more as a rookie. Shaquille O'Neal is the only rookie age 20 or younger as of Feb. 1 to post a better player efficiency rating than Towns has this season (22.4), according to Basketball-Reference.com. He looks like a superstar, and sooner rather than later. Agree?

Ford: Totally agree. Towns was the No. 1 prospect on draft night and he has lived up to the hype. In fact, I think he's surpassed it.

He's a legitimate threat on both ends of the floor. I think we all thought it would take Towns a little longer than several of the other top prospects to dominate in the NBA, especially on the offensive end. As you've pointed out, he's having one of the best rookie seasons in a long, long time. He's got a chance to be the best prospect to come into the NBA since Anthony Davis.

Who's No. 2 on your list? Let me guess, he's the Mayor of New York right now.

Pelton: Not sure about mayor -- have we gotten his position on sugary beverages? No, Kristaps Porzingis is much more popular than that.

A recent Porzingis slump has made it much clearer that Towns is the favorite for rookie of the year and the more promising of the top two players in the 2015 draft, especially since he's three months younger. But Porzingis has a bright future in his own right. As we've discussed, he's producing much more quickly than expected, especially as a rebounder and defender.

Ford: I agree on Porzingis, though I think his recent slump doesn't impact what I see coming from him in the future.

As he gets stronger, I expect he'll continue to improve as a rebounder and defender. And I think he's a much better perimeter player than he has shown so far in New York. Get him with the right coach and I think he blossoms there as well. Both he and Towns, if they hit their ceilings, could be in the MVP conversation in three or four years.

Well, with Towns and Porzingis off the board, things get a lot more interesting. The other high-ceiling rookies have all had significant struggles their rookie seasons and some of the stronger performing rookies don't have particularly high ceilings.

Who's No. 3 on your list, Kevin?

Pelton: Yep, now things get interesting. I'm going with the guy I had No. 2 before the draft: D'Angelo Russell. I find the narrative that Russell is "struggling" fascinating, given that most all-in-one stats suggest he has been better than fellow top-five picks Jahlil Okafor and Mario Hezonja, as well as fellow point guard Emmanuel Mudiay.

As I've pointed out in chats, Russell is having one of the best seasons ever by a 19-year-old guard, based on PER. He's fourth among this group behind Kyrie Irving, Stephon Marbury and Bradley Beal. Mudiay is 10th, according to Basketball Reference.

Ford: Tempting. I agree that the narrative on Russell has been too hard. Factor in the weird situation in L.A. -- with Russell planted in the middle of a season entirely dedicated to Kobe -- and I think he has done well. But I actually feel that after watching both of them play in the NBA, I'd still go with the guy I had No. 3 in my Grade A mock: Emmanuel Mudiay.

I know by certain metrics Mudiay has been awful; his shooting percentage is terrible and turnover rate is enormously high. Still, I think that once he settles down a bit and his decision making improves -- both in shot selection and passing -- he's going to be a terrific power point guard in the NBA.

Russell has a chance to get there as well, but I lean Mudiay. I think his superior physical tools will eventually win out once he gets more experience.

Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson was drafted at No. 23 but has shown more potential than plenty of other players from the 2015 draft.

Ranking the rest

Ford: Who's next for you, Kevin?

Pelton: Now I'm throwing my hands up. You phrased it well as a choice between potential and current production. And I'm not sure there's a good compromise.

If anything, the first two months of the season have only exacerbated my concerns about Okafor's ability to anchor a quality NBA defense, while raising some new ones about how he fits offensively and off the court. I think Mudiay will eventually be a productive player, but it could take years. So I'm going to go with the only top-seven pick we haven't mentioned: Willie Cauley-Stein.

I wasn't a fan before the draft because of his poor rebounding and limited offensive production, but Cauley-Stein has been better than expected on the glass (the Sacramento Kings have missed him there since his injury) and shown good touch around the basket. His upside isn't enormous but given Cauley-Stein's defensive ability he's relatively certain to be a useful starter in the league. I'm not sure how many other rookies can say that.

Ford: I agree at this point, it's hard to find someone to really gush about. I think Cauley-Stein is a defensible pick, but I'm looking at a pool of five players and he's not even in that.

Justise Winslow (if he ever figures things out offensively) and Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (ditto) have both had a huge impact on the defensive end. I think Nikola Jokic and Hezonja have intriguing offensive upsides. But my fourth choice is Russell.

I have reservations because of his lack of elite athleticism and he hasn't proven to be the shooter many scouts thought he'd be coming out of college. That's the biggest concern. He's a very good player if he shoots 40 percent or better from 3-point range. If he stays at 33 percent, his value goes way down -- and I'm talking myself out of the pick as I write this. Gah!

Pelton: I'm going to go with one of the players you mentioned, Hollis-Jefferson. At this stage in their careers, Hollis-Jefferson and Winslow have fairly similar skill sets. You can certainly favor Winslow based on his age and ability to play power forward, but I prefer Hollis-Jefferson at this point because he has been a better rebounder and is racking up more blocks and steals.

Hollis-Jefferson is rebounding like a power forward and his steal rate this season is the same as Kawhi Leonard's. I'll take that. Can you find a fifth rookie in whom you're confident?

Ford: Before the draft, everyone was talking about Winslow versus Stanley Johnson. Now I think the Winslow versus Hollis-Jefferson debate is the fascinating one, and I'm torn between the two. But for the reasons you mentioned -- Winslow's age and ability to play power forward, and I think his shot is less broken than Hollis-Jefferson's -- I give Winslow the edge.

Over time I think he'll play a bigger and bigger role for the Heat and can even envision him turning into a Kawhi Leonard type with his work ethic. But Hollis-Jefferson was definitely one of the steals of the draft.

I've been expecting you to pull a real sleeper based on the analytics. Who do you have in the rest of your top 10?

Pelton: Here's my list:

6. Justise Winslow

7. Emmanuel Mudiay

8. Jahlil Okafor

9. Myles Turner

10. Frank Kaminsky

Not a real sleeper in the group. One challenge is the difficulty in evaluating pre-draft favorites such as R.J. Hunter and Delon Wright who have barely played on deep teams. I did consider Jokic, but his ability to defend an NBA position is an issue. Devin Booker and Kelly Oubre also got strong consideration.

Ford: Fair enough. Since this ranking is based on potential, I think we are still too early enough in the season to be totally swayed by the numbers.

Here's the rest of my group:

6. Myles Turner

7. Kelly Oubre

8. Mario Hezonja

9. Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

10. Jahlil Okafor

The Okafor ranking is low, but I just worry about everything from the way the game has changed to the culture he has been thrown into. Turner looked promising before he went down with an injury. I think he could be good down the road.

I have two guys on my list that you don't. I think Oubre just oozes potential and all the recent injuries in Washington are giving him a chance to be a really effective two-way player, especially if he keeps shooting the ball that well.

Hezonja hasn't been great yet, but when he's been given minutes, he's proven to be an effective shooter and scorer. I think it's coming. With the league's emphasis on shooting, his skills will be valuable. Cauley-Stein, Jokic and Booker were my next three in.



After Wiggins slow star and D'angelo slow start, do you think we are going to stop judging rookies after 10 games?


Because Dangelo is pretty clearly the thirds best rookie and is playing great when you consider the circumstances.
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Repped, Osh, thanks for posting

 

Interesting takes on the "REALLY REALLY BAD" Russell:

 

Who's No. 3 on your list, Kevin?

Pelton: Yep, now things get interesting. I'm going with the guy I had No. 2 before the draft: D'Angelo Russell. I find the narrative that Russell is "struggling" fascinating, given that most all-in-one stats suggest he has been better than fellow top-five picks Jahlil Okafor and Mario Hezonja, as well as fellow point guard Emmanuel Mudiay.

As I've pointed out in chats, Russell is having one of the best seasons ever by a 19-year-old guard, based on PER. He's fourth among this group behind Kyrie Irving, Stephon Marbury and Bradley Beal. Mudiay is 10th, according to Basketball Reference.

Ford: Tempting. I agree that the narrative on Russell has been too hard. Factor in the weird situation in L.A. -- with Russell planted in the middle of a season entirely dedicated to Kobe -- and I think he has done well. But I actually feel that after watching both of them play in the NBA, I'd still go with the guy I had No. 3 in my Grade A mock: Emmanuel Mudiay.

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Still don't see how espn gets away with charging people for hot takes disguised as insider
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Ford's quote laugh.gif
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post #35816 of 93193
There's no substance whatsoever in that article

I think this guy can be good

This guy is better than I expected

That guy oozes potential

This other guy can be good eventually

There's nothing to gain from reading this trash. Nothing in there tells me that either of these "experts" are even watching games, know anything about basketball or do anything besides collect tweets and piece them together. Garbage
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Still don't see how espn gets away with charging people for hot takes disguised as insider
+1
post #35818 of 93193
Just read the full article, as opposed to the quote Vince posted.

So all Mudiay's struggles are whatever, he'll be fine. But Russell has to shoot 40% from 3 to be good. Come of Chad laugh.gif
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post #35819 of 93193
Kevin Pelton did work for the seattle sonics I believe so I guess that meks him and "insider" and Chad Ford actually watches these prospects play which is more than I can say for most NTers. laugh.gif
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I gain much more insight from nters than I do from ford and pelton, deadass
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