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Nope. Tim Duncan is a great player. Top 10 All Time.

But really a super uninteresting person. You won't get much out of him in interviews, which cheapens it a whole lot.

Which is why.

 

No one will come close to what Kobe is getting right now.

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Draymond Green averages over his last 7 games:
21 points, 10 boards, 7 assists, 2.1 steals, 1.6 blocks and 2.1 treys

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IMO people really underestimate how good Lebron really had it in Miami.
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IMO people really underestimate how good Lebron really had it in Miami.
Man I say this all the time. If he was smart he would've finished it of there. Nah, he was sad he couldn't beat Timmy and the boys and wanted to shake **** up. Now look at him.
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Bulls should just send Butler to NY

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jimmy a diva blood?

yeah the balance aint right yet... they will be fine...especially if we can get tony to play like that every night
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As for LeBron, even though I started this talk.. Because it is interesting to look at those stats.

He's still a Top 5 player today in the NBA. He does too many things well, not to be.

My honest opinion, is we've seen peak LeBron 2012-13 & 2013-14. Now we're on to year 2 of the downside of his prime.


Because it's the only thing I can compare it too. Because it's something I've seen up close. He's at the stage where Kobe was after winning # 5. The body is just starting to get to him. Kobe was Top 10 for a few more years, then had a resurgent year in 2012-13, where he turned back the clock almost a decade. Then injuries..

But what I mean is that it is now starting to become harder for LeBron. Still has all those physical tools, and abilities that make him elite, but it's starting to go. At the pace? I have no idea.

It requires more effort to score, it requires more rest than it used to, he probably aches more than he used to. LeBron defensively has started to slide, and started to seem to conserve his energy on defense in exchange for legs on offense. Same thing Kobe did when his knees started to bother him, and couldn't be everything on both sides of the court.
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Man I say this all the time. If he was smart he would've finished it of there. Nah, he was sad he couldn't beat Timmy and the boys and wanted to shake **** up. Now look at him.

I don't agree. Wade was/is definitely on the decline whereas when he made his decision to go back, Kyrie was young and on the come up.

Miami's future wasn't and isn't, even now, looking too bright.
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IMO people really underestimate how good Lebron really had it in Miami.

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IMO people really underestimate how good Lebron really had it in Miami.
Man I say this all the time. If he was smart he would've finished it of there. Nah, he was sad he couldn't beat Timmy and the boys and wanted to shake **** up. Now look at him.

stop lying on lecry he wanted to win one for the land he disrespected & left in the cold for a few years to show he kinda cares roll.gif
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Chris Bosh alone would've been a legit reason to stay. Kevin Love doesn't fit Lebbywinks' game the way Bosh did. Sure Dwade is washed and Kyrie is probably better at this point, but I agree that Lebbywinks had it great in Miami. He was also a better player in Miami as well.
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Originally Posted by Essential1 View Post

As for LeBron, even though I started this talk.. Because it is interesting to look at those stats.

He's still a Top 5 player today in the NBA. He does too many things well, not to be.

My honest opinion, is we've seen peak LeBron 2012-13 & 2013-14. Now we're on the downside of his prime.


Because it's the only thing I can compare it too. Because it's something I've seen up close. He's at the stage where Kobe was after winning # 5. The body is just starting to get to him. Kobe was Top 10 for a few more years, then had a resurgent year in 2012-13, where he turned back the clock almost a decade. Then injuries..

But what I mean is that it is now starting to become harder for LeBron. Still has all those physical tools, and abilities that make him elite, but it's starting to go. At the pace? I have no idea.

It requires more effort to score, it requires more rest than it used to, he probably aches more than he used to. LeBron defensively has started to slide, and started to seem to conserve his energy on defense in exchange for legs on offense. Same thing Kobe did when his knees started to bother him, and couldn't be everything on both sides of the court.

I agree with this.
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I don't agree. Wade was/is definitely on the decline whereas when he made his decision to go back, Kyrie was young and on the come up.

Miami's future wasn't and isn't, even now, looking too bright.
Cb alone should've been enough to stay. Then u got a proven injury prone star and u leave him for an unproven injury prone glorified Jamal Crawford. He deserves everything that's happening. Hey let's trade Wiggins for love....
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Jason Kidd tried to beat up a referee, as a Coach.
Like, who does that. What Coach, ever, loses it like this in the cat days of Winter?

I realized then, he might be out of his league.

Well, Mike Malone tried to fight Blake a few weeks ago and everybody still loves him. Kidd still has a shot.
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even after taking into consideration of having another vocal leader, Wade, and a big, Bosh, who compliments his game more, Miami is just a better working environment. there are checks and balances and don't require/allow Lebron to be the leader, star, coach, GM and whatever role he does on Cavs. Miami was built for his strengths too.
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Add Derrick Rose to the chart please.

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will any player after kobe receive a similar farewell tour?

Steph's the only one i can see.

Like OBJ, can we give it some time first laugh.gif?


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On the bright side, LeBron still gets into the paint at a high level / frequency, and finishes there very well.

But at the same time, that's pretty disconcerting for LeBron. Just a quick look at the % from each range in the last 3 years, there's been a lot of decline outside of the paint from year 1 to year 3.

Eventually, when the age and minutes catch up with him, and he can no longer use his speed for his size with his strength. If this trend keeps up, his scoring will age rapidly, and fall off a cliff. There would need to be a lot of change in how he plays his game, and become more of a traditional 4 as a scorer / a guy who sets the offense.
How does one regress this much? He used to be an elite jump shooter.

Ummmmmm....he did?
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Cb alone should've been enough to stay. Then u got a proven injury prone star and u leave him for an unproven injury prone glorified Jamal Crawford. He deserves everything that's happening. Hey let's trade Wiggins for love....

THIS!!!!!!!! ill never understand 

 

kyrie barely even plays , kevin love like i always said ....when your boxing out before the offensive player goes up so you can get the rebound......wow i dont know how people let it slide but watch him play and youll see why the rebounding numbers were inflated and the wolves would lose

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Add Derrick Rose to the chart please.

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Steph's the only one i can see.

steph hasnt done enough yet famb , chill and im a big time fan of curry and hope he continues to shut all the 90's elitists up and be the goat 

no longer the weeknd of the crew cause beauty behind the madness sucks

giannis is a future nba star

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post #36109 of 93193
It's a shame LeBron sent Wiggins to Minnesota. He could have been the perfect running mate with Kyrie.
Edited by PMatic - 12/29/15 at 9:06am
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in terms of pure numbers, lebron was an elite shooter. i think he was shooting 40% from 3 and had one of highest mid range percentage. he was more of an opportunistic shooter and didn't take many contested jumpers.
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:rollinat lebron being a elite shooter. 
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It's a shame LeBron sent Wiggins to Minnesota. He could have been the perfect running mate with Kyrie.
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I don't think it has anything to do with miami, Cleveland supporting cast is better than miami.

It'sno mystery lebron is just getting old. it happens, he can't bring his a+ game for 82 games anymore. it happens to every great player.
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I don't agree. Wade was/is definitely on the decline whereas when he made his decision to go back, Kyrie was young and on the come up.

Miami's future wasn't and isn't, even now, looking too bright.
Cb alone should've been enough to stay. Then u got a proven injury prone star and u leave him for an unproven injury prone glorified Jamal Crawford. He deserves everything that's happening. Hey let's trade Wiggins for love....

Pretty sure if Lebron stayed in Miami, he wasn't signing what basically amounts to 2 1 year deals. He would've got 100+ million deal and strapped Miami from making other moves. It would be probably affected the deal they gave Bosh though, since it was pretty much a panic move to give him an extra year and an extra 30 mil to keep him from the Rockets. There's also probably no Whiteside development either.
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TIM DUNCAN maybe.
Duncan's ducking out this yr while kobe takes the shine... watch it
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It's a shame LeBron sent Wiggins to Minnesota. He could have been the perfect running mate with Kyrie.

The US version of exiling someone to Siberia.
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It's a shame LeBron sent Wiggins to Minnesota. He could have been the perfect running mate with Kyrie.

people say this, id on't buy, it Love is better than Wiggins right now and will be for a while probably. lebron gotta win now before he's washed.
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LeBrick went back to Cleveland as a PR stunt to get the media to like him again. Let's not forget that stupid Nike ad after he lost in the finals
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Love is better at what tho? I think Wiggins could've complimented his game more. Love has been so far, an injury prone big who can rebound, shoot and can't defend. Wiggins was a 10 year old athletic wing, who can defend and play at a tempo your injury prone pg likes to play. It was a risk worth taking IMO
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Love is better at what tho? I think Wiggins would've complimented his game more. Love has been so far, an injury prone big who can rebound, shoot and can't defend. Wiggins was a 10 year old athletic wing, who can defend and play at a tempo your injury prone pg likes to play. It was a risk worth taking IMO

love doesn't fit in with this team. not to mention that love isnt the player we thought he was. best pf in the L . not even close. hes a liability on one end of the court. 

 

. cavs  would've been better with Wiggins for now and the foreseeable future. 

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