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post #36212 of 93193
I bring up a players December stats and folks take issue. Now y'all bring up 7 December games and Green is top 10? HA HA HA HA HA

Not one person on here would build a team around Green but claim he's top 10.
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Originally Posted by The Collector View Post

I bring up a players December stats and folks take issue. Now y'all bring up 7 December games and Green is top 10? HA HA HA HA HA

Not one person on here would build a team around Green but claim he's top 10.

i wouldnt build a team around john wall either though, so whats the difference.

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Originally Posted by The Collector View Post

I bring up a players December stats and folks take issue. Now y'all bring up 7 December games and Green is top 10? HA HA HA HA HA

Not one person on here would build a team around Green but claim he's top 10.

been saying it. polluted by draft kings n fan duel daily fantasy. they see a stat line n think whoever is trending to be an all star franchise player.
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i wouldnt build a team around john wall either though, so whats the difference.

I've already ended the conversation between Wall and Jackson. 12 assist in 3 games combined. Yet you claim he's better then John and runs better offense? HA HA HA HA HA
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HA HA HA HA HA
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i wouldnt build a team around john wall either though, so whats the difference.

I've already ended the conversation between Wall and Jackson. 12 assist in 3 games combined. Yet you claim he's better then John and runs better offense? HA HA HA HA HA

why you bring up reggie though? i thought we were talking about wall and draymond?

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why you bring up reggie though? i thought we were talking about wall and draymond?

You brought up Wall not me. I thought we were talking about Green being top 10?

BTW Wall > Green. Green doesn't have the skill set to have this Washington team 14-15 with the injuries we've had. He's a top 10 roll player sure. Not top 10 overall.
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why you bring up reggie though? i thought we were talking about wall and draymond?

You brought up Wall not me. I thought we were talking about Green being top 10?

right, so what does reggie have to do with that? he's not top 10.

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I dunno how you guys can compare Draymond and Wall
Both play different positions and have different roles in their teams
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right, so what does reggie have to do with that? he's not top 10.

You said you wouldn't build around Wall. You also said Jackson was way better. So your opinion on who's build around worthy is off from jump. Anyone who'd take Reggie over Wall isn't GM material. Your comment about Wall can't be taken seriously.
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I dunno how you guys can compare Draymond and Wall
Both play different positions and have different roles in the team

We're talking top 10 players regardless of position correct? I didn't here any position specified when talking Green top 10. I thought folks meant overall top 10.
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Didn't advanced stats have Lebron ranked as a better shooter than Curry just a couple years ago?

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right, so what does reggie have to do with that? he's not top 10.

You said you wouldn't build around Wall. You also said Jackson was way better. So your opinion on who's build around worthy is off from jump. Anyone who'd take Reggie over Wall isn't GM material. Your comment about Wall can't be taken seriously.

i wouldn't build a squad around any of those guys though lol.

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i wouldn't build a squad around any of those guys though lol.

I wouldn't build around Wall if we redrafted players and I picked first. However there aren't many I'd choose over him. Between Green and John I'm taking Wall everytime.
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We're talking top 10 players regardless of position correct? I didn't here any position specified when talking Green top 10. I thought folks meant overall top 10.
Yeah, but my point is that even having a general ranking is hard, because we don't know how Draymond would do in a leadership role that Wall has currently. They both do a good job at their own roles though. I would rather have Top 10s in positions than Top 10 in general.
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Yeah, but my point is that even having a general ranking is hard, because we don't know how Draymond would do in a leadership role that Wall has currently. They both do a good job at their own roles though. I would rather have Top 10s in positions than Top 10 in general.

Agree. That's why it's laughable to say Green is a top 10 NBA player. I could give him best roll player. He's not even the best sidekick because of KD and Russ.
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So, you're building your team around Draymond if he's top 10 and not a elite role player playing with a superstar? This will only set him up for people to start calling him overrated, overpaid and say he "sucks" because they were expecting him to the best player on the floor for that team every night.

This is why Marc Gasol is starting to become the scapegoat in Memphis. Everyone expects him to be Shaq and dominate a basketball game offensively, when he's not that guy. That doesn't make him an elite player. He just needs to play with a superstar, so the elite skills he does have will overshadow his inability to be a dominant scorer. Pau Gasol years ago was the same. Bosh in Toronto. All of these guys who had elite skillsets that had the unfortunate case of being called "a #1" went through this. Draymond just never had to go through it with Steph and sometimes Klay around.

Imagine if Draymond went to the Celtics this offseason. You think he's putting that team over the top?
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Yeah, but my point is that even having a general ranking is hard, because we don't know how Draymond would do in a leadership role that Wall has currently. They both do a good job at their own roles though. I would rather have Top 10s in positions than Top 10 in general.

This is common sense, which is why this is a subjective matter and forever will be. You will never have an apples to apples comparison.

People tend to trend players with 20/20 hindsight. You find these topics all too often on ESPN and sports radio.

Everyone has a POV.
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Imagine if Draymond went to the Celtics this offseason. You think he's putting that team over the top?

Yes.
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Draymond in Boston is a scary thought.
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top 5 may be a stretch but he's definitely a top 10 player

had no clue he'd be this good coming out of MSU

ditto kinfolk

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So, you're building your team around Draymond if he's top 10 and not a elite role player playing with a superstar? This will only set him up for people to start calling him overrated, overpaid and say he "sucks" because they were expecting him to the best player on the floor for that team every night.

This is why Marc Gasol is starting to become the scapegoat in Memphis. Everyone expects him to be Shaq and dominate a basketball game offensively, when he's not that guy. That doesn't make him an elite player. He just needs to play with a superstar, so the elite skills he does have will overshadow his inability to be a dominant scorer. Pau Gasol years ago was the same. Bosh in Toronto. All of these guys who had elite skillsets that had the unfortunate case of being called "a #1" went through this. Draymond just never had to go through it with Steph and sometimes Klay around.

Imagine if Draymond went to the Celtics this offseason. You think he's putting that team over the top?

Wait, Big Marc been getting slander?

I thought he was universally loved in Memphis, and generally NBA circles....
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i wouldnt build a team around john wall either though, so whats the difference.
U build around john or dray u got a losing squad regardless. Dray is better at what he does then wall is what he does tho.
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ditto kinfolk

There aren't 10 players you'd rather build your team around then Green?
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U build around john or dray u got a losing squad regardless. Dray is better at what he does then wall is what he does tho.

Based off what? Please enlighten me.
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U build around john or dray u got a losing squad regardless. Dray is better at what he does then wall is what he does tho.

Wall done took his team to the playoffs and won two series as a #1 option. That's hardly a "losing squad". Wall out here putting up 20/10 with a starting lineup that reads:

PG: Wall
SG: Temple
SF: Oubre
PF: Dudley
C: Gortat

No Wall slander will be tolerated.

But I see your point as Dray being a more "valuable" 2nd or 3rd option than Wall is as a #1 option.
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draymond would have wall/beal being the best guard combo in the league and the wiz being best team in the east
maybe, otto can be that? nerd.gif
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Based off what? Please enlighten me.

John Wall is meh
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draymond would have wall/beal being the best guard combo in the league and the wiz being best team in the east

Very possible if he plays the same ROLE. That's the key word. Green would be a upgrade over Otto for sure.
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