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post #38131 of 93193
You guys must be forgetting to factor in Draymond's leadership and toughness.

His Leadership Per Game is crazy right now.

True Toughness Rating is leading the league.

Winner Mentaility took a bit of a hit last week but he's brought it back up.
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Jimmy was acting like he was from some Brooklyn projects, making fun of Taj Gibson

Evan turner is hilarious and I had no idea laugh.gif. He has a handful of gems this season

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Rudy Gobert's was my favorite of the year!! That was CLASSIC!
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how many legit number ones are there?

can you define legit number ones for me

that's what i am trying to figure out
dray is a top 5 player in my eyes. play on court doesn't lie and if you say you can't build a team around him, then who can you?
also in my top 5...
steph
lebron
kd
russ
kawhi
PG
Jimmy
Klay

yeah i feel it. IMO i think you can build a team around Dray too but it has to be a really balanced one with more capable scorers, something similar to what he has in GSW or Spurs. it's hard not to build a team around someone who's elite at pretty much all areas of basketball except the one only casual fans care for so it's weird hearing someone with dray's background being mentioned as a top 10 player. i think a good amount of NT believe you can only be a top player if you're an elite offensive player. im not sweating it too much and won't waste my time whether i think dray is top 10. imma just let his play do the talking for him like last year lol.
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that's what i am trying to figure out
dray is a top 5 player in my eyes. play on court doesn't lie and if you say you can't build a team around him, then who can you?
also in my top 5...
steph
lebron
kd
russ
kawhi
PG
Jimmy
Klay

Why can't you build around Wall again? I keep seeing Green being praised for all around game but Wall is doing what he's doing with fewer rebounds and more assists while guarding PGs. Elite NBA defender. Green has played great but if you put him on Washington in place of Wall you believe Washington would be better?
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The build a team around player argument is silly

Any non top 5 player is not worth having a team built around them

The 6th best player in the league is not leading any team to a championship

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The build a team around player argument is silly

Any non top 5 player is not worth having a team built around them

The 6th best player in the league is not leading any team to a championship

Sometimes even having 2 top 5 players at their positions, a sixth man of the year, and a championship winning coach isn't enough.
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The build a team around player argument is silly

Any non top 5 player is not worth having a team built around them

The 6th best player in the league is not leading any team to a championship

Sometimes even having 2 top 5 players at their positions, a sixth man of the year, and a championship winning coach isn't enough.
Not sure what team you are talking about but an above average catch and shoot shooter from the corners might be the missing piece to that puzzle

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post #38138 of 93193
I think the Pistons should keep Jennings if he could buy coming off the bench as a super sub. If Stanley can start panning out, their first 7 are really good
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The build a team around player argument is silly

Any non top 5 player is not worth having a team built around them

The 6th best player in the league is not leading any team to a championship

idk man, d wade wasn't a top 5 player when Miami built the team around him and they won the ring
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The build a team around player argument is silly

Any non top 5 player is not worth having a team built around them

The 6th best player in the league is not leading any team to a championship

idk man, d wade wasn't a top 5 player when Miami built the team around him and they won the ring
Shaq was a top 5 player in 2006

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post #38141 of 93193
Who on the Pistons was top 5 the year they won?
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D'Angelo Russell is out today against the Golden State Warriors with a sore throat..

Good grief..
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Who on the Pistons was top 5 the year they won?

the exception. semen does have a great point there.
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The build a team around player argument is silly

Any non top 5 player is not worth having a team built around them

The 6th best player in the league is not leading any team to a championship

idk man, d wade wasn't a top 5 player when Miami built the team around him and they won the ring
Shaq was a top 5 player in 2006

Was Kawhi Leonard a top 5 player in 2013-2014? Or was it Duncan/Parker?
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D'Angelo Russell is out today against the Golden State Warriors with a sore throat..

Good grief..
Too much Black Mamba for him
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Not sure what team you are talking about but an above average catch and shoot shooter from the corners might be the missing piece to that puzzle

That sounds like a dream team tbh. Unfair to the rest of the league
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the exception. semen does have a great point there.

He does. The majority of Champions have a top 5 guy in the season they've won.
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Shaq was a top 5 player in 2006

No, he really wasn't

 

Leonard, Duncan weren't top 5 players when they won in 2013

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No, he really wasn't

Leonard, Duncan weren't top 5 players when they won in 2013

Shaq was definitely still top 5 (or returned to top 5) in his first year in Miami, when the lost in the conference finals to Detroit. I believe he was second in MVP voting. But its arguable for the following year. The decline was already showing then. Still, his numbers were good @ 20, 9 and almost 2 blocks per. So, if he wasn't top 5, he was still top 10. So him, with a rising Wade (and the refs in the Finals), was enough to get it done.
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Shaq was definitely still top 5 (or returned to top 5) in his first year in Miami, when the lost in the conference finals to Detroit. I believe he was second in MVP voting. But its arguable for the following year. The decline was already showing then. Still, his numbers were good @ 20, 9 and almost 2 blocks per. So, if he wasn't top 5, he was still top 10. So him, with a rising Wade (and the refs in the Finals), was enough to get it done.

Wade was the best player when they won, I actually thought most of NT agreed with that (especially the Laker fans, with their Shaq was the Robin comments)

 

Interestingly enough, Shaq didn't even finish top 11 in MVP voting. Most likely due to him only playing 59 games

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This is an age old question,.
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Who on the Pistons was top 5 the year they won?

Ben Wallace.
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Wade was the best player when they won, I actually thought most of NT agreed with that (especially the Laker fans, with their Shaq was the Robin comments)

Interestingly enough, Shaq didn't even finish top 11 in MVP voting. Most likely due to him only playing 59 games

I also agree with Wade being the Heat's best player the year they won the title, particularly in the playoffs. I'm just saying that, top 5 or not, Shaq was still a force that year. It was really after that when he became basically a role player, though he did have that one all-star year in Phoenix.
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This is an age old question,.
Ben Wallace.

Have to agree. Tough to decide on top 5 guys in any year but in 2003 you had:

 

KG, Duncan, Kobe, Shaq, Jermaine, Peja, Wallace and Kidd

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I also agree with Wade being the Heat's best player the year they won the title, particularly in the playoffs. I'm just saying that, top 5 or not, Shaq was still a force that year. It was really after that when he became basically a role player, though he did have that one all-star year in Phoenix.

I guess my point is choosing a "top 5" list is incredibly subjective

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I guess my point is choosing a "top 5" list is incredibly subjective

Absolutely. And very situational. Just like Player A v. Player B debates.
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Actually, people choke on peanut butter fairly regularly and it's pretty soft.


I'm allergic to peanut butter / peanuts, so I don't know.
I know someone who is allergic to avocados, imagine that frown.gif

Avocados are trash, so he's lucky

its a she tbh

 

and the one time I told her I wanted ramen or I'm out and she went for sushi with her brother instead she got avocado in her rolls... had to get the epipen out and everything

 

taught her a really good lesson that day tbh

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post #38158 of 93193
On a related note I rewatched some highlights of that 06 finals a few years ago and have since softened my stance on Wade and his free throws. Bruh was at his athletic peak and no one on that miserable dallas team had a prayer of staying in front of him. They couldn't do anything with him and were just hacking the **** outta him which opened the door for lesser contact fouls to be called. Wade was a beast that year and deserves credit for carrying that team in the finals.
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Again? Really?

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I love that instead of backtracking and issuing a full apology for his comments, Kendall Marshall's dad gave a half apology with the "I'm not a racist.. and I shouldn't have singled out Stauskas.. but Stauskas sucks" and then doubled down on how come his son isn't getting playing time.

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