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Player A

PPG 11
RPG 9.5
APG 1.7
FG 41%
3FG 31%
DBL DBL 33

Player B

PPG 13
RPG 7.9
APG 1.1
FG 41%
3FG 32%
DBL DBL 33

This really Lativa and Randle?

 

Lativa at least got those block shot numbers (2 vs 0.5) and the 3FG is misleading since Randle doesn't attempt very many. Lativa is good for 1 a game at least

kp averages 3.6 threes a game

 

randle .5

 

kp is better than randle in every way 

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post #38822 of 93193

Still got hope for Randle while a lot have already given up on him. I don't think he's Thomas Robinson bust level yet

 

His strengths at least come out from time to time. He's still a rookie

post #38823 of 93193
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At least Porzingis isn't a liability on defense like Randle.

Randle has ONE move, that one move isn't even effective lol. Dude tries to bully his way through the lane and throws up the most ridiculous rushed shots I have ever seen.

He's a ball stopping 4 that doesn't really provide much of anything outside of rebounding. And yea, I know he's a rookie. But there's nothing about his skill sets that makes me believe he can be a star in this league.

post #38824 of 93193

Porzingis > Randle 

post #38825 of 93193
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Porzingis > Randle 
This isn't even a debate.
post #38826 of 93193

randle isnt even the best young pf on his own team 

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post #38827 of 93193
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randle isnt even the best young pf on his own team 

Damn

post #38828 of 93193
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Originally Posted by leemelone View Post

Player A

PPG 11
RPG 9.5
APG 1.7
FG 41%
3FG 31%
DBL DBL 33

Player B

PPG 13
RPG 7.9
APG 1.1
FG 41%
3FG 32%
DBL DBL 33

Kristaps at least shoots 3's though, so that makes up for his poor FG%.

Randle is out here bricking at the rim cuz he can't finish over length, can't finish with his off hand....and his jumper is broken.
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post #38829 of 93193

its unfair to say randle cant finish with his off hand

 

we have no evidence of him ever using it 

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post #38830 of 93193
who is worse with the off hand....Randle..or....J.Lin...?

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #38831 of 93193
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who is worse with the off hand....Randle..or....J.Lin...?
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post #38832 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Freeze View Post

who is worse with the off hand....Randle..or....J.Lin...?

Randle makes Jeremy Lin look ambidextrous.

I was told by a laker fan on here that Randle's inability to finish with his off hand wasn't a factor nerd.giflaugh.gif
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post #38833 of 93193
Bridgewater

I would say Randle
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post #38834 of 93193
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Originally Posted by WavyCrocket View Post

Kristaps at least shoots 3's though, so that makes up for his poor FG%.

Randle is out here bricking at the rim cuz he can't finish over length, can't finish with his off hand....and his jumper is broken.

FG % 0-3 feet

JR 51%
KP 54%

3-10 feet

JR 38%
KP 37%

I really don't watch enough knick games to try and act like I know why Krispy shoots a low percentage at the rim as a 7'3 player. I'm sure it's probably not as ugly as randle's paint game right now but the production is similar.
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Randle makes Jeremy Lin look ambidextrous.

I was told by a laker fan on here that Randle's inability to finish with his off hand wasn't a factor nerd.giflaugh.gif

I don't understand how yall watch nba games every night and don't realize most players rarely finish with their off hand laugh.gif. He's just not a good finisher in general right now.
post #38835 of 93193
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FG % 0-3 feet

JR 51%
KP 54%

3-10 feet

JR 38%
KP 37%

I really don't watch enough knick games to try and act like I know why Krispy shoots a low percentage at the rim as a 7'3 player. I'm sure it's probably not as ugly as randle's paint game right now but the production is similar.
I don't understand how yall watch nba games every night and don't realize most players rarely finish with their off hand laugh.gif. He's just not a good finisher in general right now.

Thing is, most players CAN finish with their off hands when need be. So nobody is going to sit on a particular hand and give them an opportunity to finish with their off hand.....it's still a threat and a make-able shot.


Randle on the other hand, (no pun intended) absolutely cannot, and will not..... so teams will sit on his left hand all day. Which leads to blocked shots and turnovers.
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post #38836 of 93193
Watching damn near every game he's honestly probably like 3 for 7 with his right hand. Just look for it and you'll see how most players work their way back to their strong hand.
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Randle on the other hand, (no pun intended) absolutely cannot, and will not..... so teams will sit on his left hand all day. Which leads to blocked shots and turnovers.

TO

JR 1.8
KP 1.8
post #38837 of 93193
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Originally Posted by leemelone View Post

FG % 0-3 feet

JR 51%
KP 54%

3-10 feet

JR 38%
KP 37%

I really don't watch enough knick games to try and act like I know why Krispy shoots a low percentage at the rim as a 7'3 player. I'm sure it's probably not as ugly as randle's paint game right now but the production is similar.
I don't understand how yall watch nba games every night and don't realize most players rarely finish with their off hand laugh.gif. He's just not a good finisher in general right now.

I think it happens more often than you're suggesting. Just on the Clippers for example, Blake, CP and even DJ have at least one off-hand completion per game. I wouldn't call that "rare." Lots of players having going to their offhand as a component of their offensive day.
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post #38838 of 93193
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Watching damn near every game he's honestly probably like 3 for 7 with his right hand. Just look for it and you'll see how most players work their way back to their strong hand.
TO

JR 1.8
KP 1.8

Just to be clear, are you saying you think Randle is as good as, and has as a high a ceiling as, Kristaps? It's not clear.
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post #38839 of 93193
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Originally Posted by leemelone View Post

Watching damn near every game he's honestly probably like 3 for 7 with his right hand. Just look for it and you'll see how most players work their way back to their strong hand.
TO

JR 1.8
KP 1.8

If a player has to take a shot at the rim with their off hand, they will do it.

If Julius Randle has to take a shot with his off hand, he won't laugh.gif. I know it's your job to defend these guys....but take the kid gloves off and call it how you see it. Everybody even in Lakers land knows it's a huge weakness which he has to work on.

I mean I thought Manu was left hand dominant, but Julius takes the cake.
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post #38840 of 93193
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Originally Posted by leemelone View Post

FG % 0-3 feet

JR 51%
KP 54%

3-10 feet

JR 38%
KP 37%

I really don't watch enough knick games to try and act like I know why Krispy shoots a low percentage at the rim as a 7'3 player. I'm sure it's probably not as ugly as randle's paint game right now but the production is similar.
I don't understand how yall watch nba games every night and don't realize most players rarely finish with their off hand laugh.gif. He's just not a good finisher in general right now.

Thing is, most players CAN finish with their off hands when need be. So nobody is going to sit on a particular hand and give them an opportunity to finish with their off hand.....it's still a threat and a make-able shot.


Randle on the other hand, (no pun intended) absolutely cannot, and will not..... so teams will sit on his left hand all day. Which leads to blocked shots and turnovers.

they can when they are comfortable. when the game isn't in jeopardy. when they aren't being guarded tough. Or in practice and layup drills.

Make them uncomfortable though. Stay close to their dominant hand. They will revert back to what is most instinctual for them. They will switch to that dominant hand no matter what. Force of habit. Very few nba players are truly free in their minds to go left to right with little to no loss. Steph, kyrie, bron, russ, kobe. Seems like just the elite. Hell, even harden reverts to that left more often than not.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #38841 of 93193

I don't know why, but i've probably watched about 80% of Laker games this season. I think Randle has an elite motor and a level of physicality that can't be taught. He also has showcased a little bit of a feel for seeking out teammates. He's a decent playmaker. And he can rebound.

 

Everything else though for me is straight cringeworthy to watch and he has a bit of a ways to go being a dependable PF for a winner. What he doesn't do well supersedes what he does well and that's okay, because he's a rookie, a young guy on a young team. I'm rooting for him. But man his individual game needs work. From the shooting, to the non existent off hand, to the creating of offense for himself, he can't defend, all needs work.

 

I like Larry Nance more than Julius tbh.

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post #38842 of 93193
Surprised Randle is only shooting 50% from inside 3 feet considering he is as athletic as Blake Griffin.

Anyway, Porzingis has taken 101 threes. Randle has taken 87 Shots total outside of 10 feet. Porzingis shoots 32% from 3. Randle shoots 35% outside of 3 feet. The difference is Porizingis has taken 324 shots outside of 3 feet while Randle has only taken 169.
post #38843 of 93193
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I think it happens more often than you're suggesting. Just on the Clippers for example, Blake, CP and even DJ have at least one off-hand completion per game. I wouldn't call that "rare." Lots of players having going to their offhand as a component of their offensive day.

Blake likes to palm it with his left and dunk from time to time. Dj is one of those confused players that's right handed but shoots left. And cp is very skilled. The rest of the clippers and the league, it's rare. You can watch a 10 minute harden highlight reel and count on one hand how often he finishes right. Jordan clarkson never finishes left and he was an elite finisher last season.

When Shane battier was with houston I read about how they would gather all these analytics to help him guard kobe. He was saying how the numbers normally help because most guys heavily favor their strong hand but kobe was extremely rare because he was 51% right and 49% left. Just look for it and you'll clearly see for yourself.
post #38844 of 93193
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they can when they are comfortable. when the game isn't in jeopardy. when they aren't being guarded tough. Or in practice and layup drills.

Make them uncomfortable though. Stay close to their dominant hand. They will revert back to what is most instinctual for them. They will switch to that dominant hand no matter what. Force of habit. Very few nba players are truly free in their minds to go left to right with little to no loss. Steph, kyrie, bron, russ, kobe. Seems like just the elite. Hell, even harden reverts to that left more often than not.

Those are high pressure situations though. I know, and can understand that. I'm talking about everyday game flow. And Julius Randle hasn't been put in any high pressure situations yet, so this doesn't really apply to him laugh.gif.

Trust me, I know full and well that players prefer to go to their dominant hand when finishing....but a few times a game when they can't go that hand during the flow of the game...they have no problem finishing with the off hand.

I seen Randle do a reverse when he could just finish an easy layup with his right roll.gif



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post #38845 of 93193
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I don't know why, but i've probably watched about 80% of Laker games this season. 

you need to find a better hobby :lol

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post #38846 of 93193
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Just to be clear, are you saying you think Randle is as good as, and has as a high a ceiling as, Kristaps? It's not clear.

I really can't say, haven't seen enough of kp. Going off the numbers it's close.
post #38847 of 93193
if i am byron scott, i'd take randles left hand and beat it with a bat and force him to use his right
post #38848 of 93193
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you need to find a better hobby :lol

 

:lol I love basketball man. There's only so many teams that play in that 7:30 slot and during the first half of the season it's even less since most of those 7:30 slotted teams are traveling or on the road. (I.E. why LAC and LAL basically were on the road for much of december) 

 

So like if there's a 7:30 game on with LAL I'll watch with no hesitation. Plus the Lakers are mildly entertaining for a few reasons.

 

Only team I don't care for and won't really watch are the 76ers. 

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post #38849 of 93193
I think Porzingis struggles finishing at the rim sometimes cause he's just not strong enough yet. There's times where he trys a finesse shot instead of going up strong.

I'm beyond happy with his development so far, especially on defense.

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post #38850 of 93193
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Lol sometimes there are players who don't need a left hand to finish at the rim (ej. Iverson). And then there's Randle laugh.gif
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