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Has this espn point guard article been discussed? Already annoyed and I'm at 7

Steph is the fourth greatest PG of all time. Two years ago would he have even been in the top 10? laugh.gif


Nash should be in the top 5.
Completely disregarding longevity laugh.gif
  
  
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Bulls vs. Bucks (8 ET, NBA TV)

We Meet Again


Chicago and Milwaukee matchup for the second time this week after the Bulls controlled the Bucks for a 117-106 win last Tuesday. Jimmy Butler led the charge for Chicago to give the Bulls their seventh win over the last eight regular season matchups with the Bucks. Their lone loss came last April in Milwaukee when Michael Carter-Williams tallied 21 points and 10 rebounds in the 95-91 victory. The Bucks will need another performance like that from Carter-Williams tonight if they hope to push the Bulls to a 6-9 record away from the United Center. The last time the Bulls were in Milwaukee, they beat the Bucks by 54 points to close out their first-round playoff series. Will the outcome be different tonight as the Bucks play on their new, alternate court?



Old Stomping Grounds


Jimmy Butler returns to Milwaukee where he played college ball at Marquette University. The all-around shooting guard has tallied 30-plus points in five games this season with three of those games coming on the road. A fourth was dropped on the Bucks last week when he went 11-for-21 from the field for 32 points to go along with a career-high 10 assists. Expect another big night from Butler as he plays on his old college court and looks to help the Bulls avoid a third consecutive loss.



Starting To Sizzle


After a slow stretch to start the season, Khris Middleton has turned it on for the Bucks over his last 11 games with averages of 23.3 points on 52.9 percent from the field, 49.1 percent from 3-point range, 4.9 assists, and 3.4 rebounds in 36.6 minutes. He scored 26 points on 5-for-10 from 3-point in the Bucks' loss to Chicago last Tuesday. Expect the Bulls to be focused tonight on slowing Middleton, who is the only 3-point threat in the Bucks' starting lineup.



Great Gasol


Pau Gasol has dominated the Bucks since joining the Bulls last season. In five games against Milwaukee as a Bull, Gasol is averaging 24.6 points on 57.7 percent shooting and 12.8 rebounds. This includes a career-best night last January when he tallied a career-high 46 points on 17-for-30 shooting, 18 rebounds and three assists in the Bulls' win. Gasol was held to just 14 points in the Bucks' lone regular season win against Chicago since last season. The Bulls will look for a big night from Gasol as they look to bounce back from last night's 114-100 defeat in Washington.

guaranteed 225 points tonight
post #40563 of 93193
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@The Collector
 did this happen last night?

 
WASHINGTON_3.PNG Wizards
John Wall-G
Tue, 12 Jan 2016 01:50:00 PM
John Wall (left knee) will undergo an MRI on Thursday, rather than the original report of Tuesday. 

src: 
Washington Post

that's what he gets for that cook fest in the uc last night... might've got touched before leaving the stadium

:lol well damn

"I apologize, turns out it was not the Thunder's year.  I wish they hadn't played the games"

 

 

"I apologize, turns out it was not the Thunder's year.  I wish they hadn't played the games"

 

 

post #40564 of 93193
Dray probably sitting the next two

Really interested in seeing GSW's motor in those two games
...and the Golden State would never paper hate...
...and the Golden State would never paper hate...
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So, Wall fired his agent (Dan Fegan), huh? Word is he's signing with Rich Paul.

January 12, 2016
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So, Wall fired his agent (Dan Fegan), huh? Word is he's signing with Rich Paul.

January 12, 2016

Wall for Kyrie nerd.gif
" . . . what a long, strange trip its been . . . " The Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" (and a good summary of my life as an LA Clippers fan)
" . . . what a long, strange trip its been . . . " The Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" (and a good summary of my life as an LA Clippers fan)
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So, Wall fired his agent (Dan Fegan), huh? Word is he's signing with Rich Paul.

January 12, 2016

Nike here he comes
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Fegan's had it "rough" the last six months or so.
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So, Wall fired his agent (Dan Fegan), huh? Word is he's signing with Rich Paul.

January 12, 2016

Nike here he comes

I was about to say....probably wants more of a push from the marketing standpoint. If he signs w/ Paul, it makes sense because that camp has a ton of pull.
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Dan couldn't close a sneaker deal. Nike won't be interested in Wall. They may sign him to wear kicks..they won't give him his own. Adidas wasn't interested. The AD Walss were failures outsides of the zig techs.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

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tbh Wall doesn't deserve a signature shoe deal
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Wall def isn't getting his own shoe at Nike. If Blake and Russ can't even get one, Wall def isn't.

But it's still a endorsement deal I guess.
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I think he'll sign w/ Nike, but yall are right...not a chance in hell he gets a signature shoe. That ship has sailed. Maybe things would be different if he had signed w/ Nike outta UK, but he made his bed w/ 3 stripes.

Now, if he signs w/ Paul, it will be interesting to see what marketing/endorsement opportunities he gets...
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Wall def isn't getting his own shoe at Nike. If Blake and Russ can't even get one, Wall def isn't.

But it's still a endorsement deal I guess.

I think if Russ wanted a signature JB shoe, they would give him one. I think he likes being one of the guys who keeps the flagship model going. And the Superflys are basically Blake's shoe, so I don't know why they don't re-name it accordingly. But whatever.


In any event, I agree on Wall. Nike isn't handing sig shoes out to just anyone and his profile isn't high enough to merit one. Still kind of crazy to me that Kyrie has one, TBH.
" . . . what a long, strange trip its been . . . " The Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" (and a good summary of my life as an LA Clippers fan)
" . . . what a long, strange trip its been . . . " The Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" (and a good summary of my life as an LA Clippers fan)
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Will Porzingis eventually get a shoe deal?
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drummond is signed to JB too and he still buys his own kicks and wears them lmaoooooooooo

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

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Was the article posted in here on Wall's prior shoe deal and what he was seeking...then Harden's deal (I think) really set things off?
...and the Golden State would never paper hate...
...and the Golden State would never paper hate...
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Derrick Rose and Damian Lillard want to retire as Bulls, Blazers


Derrick Rose has not had a good season for the Chicago Bulls in 2015-16. There have been a few good games here and there, and he has improved since losing the facemask he wore following an orbital bone fracture suffered in the first practice of his team’s season back in the first week of October, but by and large he’s been a millstone offensively and a very poor defender. He’s not the sole reason the Bulls are inconsistent, myriad factors go into that, but he’s certainly been rough to watch.

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This was supposed to be the breakout year, the one that came after an up and down 2014-15 campaign – the first time he finished a season with the Bulls since his MVP year in 2011. With his downfall so swift, and with the remainder of this year’s $20 million deal and next season’s $21.1 million deal still on Chicago’s books, many have wondered why the Bulls haven’t tried to trade Rose to another team.

Well, two teams have to tango. Not a lot of front offices are out to grab a guy that needs 15.3 shots to score 14.9 points, with that poor defense, with 2.9 free throws per game, averaging fewer than five assists for the second straight season. To say nothing of the tens of millions he’s owed.

Rose wants to grind it out in Chicago. He discussed his hopes in an interview with Nick Friedell at ESPN Chicago:


Friedell: You want to retire here still.


Rose: For sure, for sure.


[…]


Friedell: What do you think is the biggest misconception about you now?


Rose: I really don't know right now. Every week it changes probably. I'm serious. I don't know -- it's probably -- in the beginning of the year it was, did I want to stay here and did I want to win? But my whole life, I mean from the beginning, I said I wanted to stay here and play here and my whole life I've been a winner, so that's not going to change.

We’ll see how strong Rose’s commitment to Chicago is when, if current trends hold up, they’ll offer him a contract worth a fraction of what he’s currently making when he becomes a free agent in 2017. Assuming they actually offer him one, sadly.

Rose is not a good player right now, and for a team that merely wanted him to return to competent form while building a solid rotation around him, his play has been a major disappointment. His shooting percentages in the paint and in the mid-range have improved to a level around average since the mask went off, but his defensive issues from last season remain, and he still walks the ball up court for a team that hasn’t needed for him to act as a slowed-down, one-on-one machine for the last 45 months.

No, these Bulls need him to push the ball and enter the ball into sets that are supposed to feature ball movement and passing. Worse, too often when he gives up the ball Rose lopes behind the corner three-point line and watches the play (not) develop for the league’s 23rd-ranked offense, with nobody guarding the player who has hit fewer than a quarter of his three-pointers this year.

Of course Derrick Rose wants to stay in Chicago. It’s his hometown, it’s the only town his young son has ever known (which he mentions in the interview), and if he still were a max-level player (as opposed to ranking 54th out of 71 eligible NBA point guards in Player Efficiency Rating this year), the Bulls could pay him more money than any other team when re-signing him.

Being dealt to another team would mean a whole new fan base to answer to, wondering why their group gave up around $20 million in contracts to deal for Rose, wondering why their team put his $21 million on next year’s salary cap along the way. It would likely mean an eventual demotion to the bench, should this sort of play continue. It would mean a change in city. It would mean the realization that the franchise that did nothing but make yearly excuses for Derrick Rose didn’t want him around anymore.

What player – what person – would want to go through something like that? At some point, though, as he watches Jamal Crawford play 15 years after tearing his ACL, or Russell Westbrook dominating after three different meniscus-related surgeries (to Rose’s two), the excuses have to let up.

Play defense. Move without the ball offensively. Play an uglier game and get to the line more often. Don’t give up plays. Don’t walk the ball up on court as if it’s 2010, and Keith Bogans is waiting beyond half-court. As opposed to Jimmy Butler.


A brighter version of the same line Rose is understandably towing came out of Portland last week, when Trail Blazers point guard Damian Lillard offered this in the wake of a 40-point, 10-assist game:


“It’s always good to be the first one to do something,’’ Lillard said. “Especially being part of an organization I plan on being a part of for my entire career. It’s an honor, but I would have liked for it to be in a winning effort.’’

Lillard’s “first one” comment has to do with the fact that no Blazer has ever dropped 40 points and 10 dimes on the team’s home court, and as he noted Portland did fall to the defending champion Golden State Warriors in the contest on Friday. Still, 40 and 10. Part of a fantastic weekend.

And he wants to stay a Blazer forever.

Wait.

Portland has heard this before, infamously from Bill Walton in the 1970s (who later deduced, correctly, that the team misdiagnosed his stress fractures) and LaMarcus Aldridge. LMA said as much in 2014, prior to what turned out to be his last season with the team, as he understandably jumped less than a year after those comments to a Spurs team that is now running (thanks in large part to LaMarcus) with the best point differential at this point in the season in NBA history.

Lillard was the second member of the 2012 NBA draft class (thanks Billy!) to sign a maximum contract extension, one that doesn’t even start until next season. The five-year, $120 deal is amplified somewhat because of Damian’s Rookie of the Year trophy and All-Star appearances, and it isn’t set to finish until 2021.

Damian will turn 31 the same month he’ll have to decide his free agent future that year, a full year older (nearly to the day) that Aldridge was at the time. The Blazers have done an interesting job keeping him engaged, not bottoming out in the wake of losing four starters during last year’s offseason, but despite Lillard’s brilliance this squad still needs to find its way into grabbing another star.

The franchise has the league’s lowest payroll in 2015-16 and plenty of cap room next year even with Lillard’s pay raise, but plenty of teams will have cap space. The team has what could be cap-eating decisions to make on restricted free agents Meyers Leonard and Moe Harkless – two solid enough players who could be fallback plans for teams that fail to land bigger names – and as currently set the team’s first round pick this June could fall into the teens.

The too-quick ascension of teams in Phoenix and Milwaukee shouldn’t have Lillard, the Blazers or Blazers fans’ worried. There’s no reason to think Portland will fall into a series of dodgy moves in the wake of unexpected mediocrity. For all the fun that this season has been in Portland, though, it might come at a cost. For now, at least: Portland has five years.

Chicago? Their window probably shut five years ago. There’s a chance this team can move past that blockage, between now and spring, but quite a bit in Derrick Rose’s game needs to change
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Gar Forman gon be like 'no probs bro, it's all love. you can retire a Bull Derrick. Long as you do it by February 19th. Swerve!'

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

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Gar Forman gon be like 'no probs bro, it's all love. you can retire a Bull Derrick. Long as you do it by February 19th. Swerve!'

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If Bulls get cap space. Then what? Cap space hasn't done much for the Bulls in recent history. FA shun us like nothing. An aging Pau that's probably going to leave us after this yr is probably the best they've done in the last 15 years.

In the meantime, Aaron Brooks or Hinrich would have to start at point.

You're so clever bro.

Being better than Brooks and Hinrich doesn't mean you're worth 40 million. It's not even about cap space. He's been BAD the last two years. Since he's not much of a defender or 3pt shooter - it's not like he's an ideal role player. If ownership can save 40 mil and even get an average guy at starter, it's a no brainer.

Realistically, the only team crazy enough to take on Derrick Rose right now is the Nets laugh.gif

Yea, you said they should trade Rose from cap space. That's not, nor should it happen laugh.gif
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Being better than Brooks and Hinrich doesn't mean you're worth 40 million. It's not even about cap space. He's been BAD the last two years. Since he's not much of a defender or 3pt shooter - it's not like he's an ideal role player. If ownership can save 40 mil and even get an average guy at starter, it's a no brainer.

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I'm not as worried about Rose anymore. His play has been trending up since he took off his mask.

Last 6 games or so he been scorn 21 ppg on 49 percent shooting, I believe. The only complaint I have right now are his turnovers, specifically in the last quarter.

If this play holds up, you'd be stupid to trade him for cap space. Maybe he's not worth 40 mil, but he'd be worth more, than whatever the Bulls get back in a trade.
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I'm not as worried about Rose anymore. His play has been trending up since he took off his mask.

Last 6 games or so he been scorn 21 ppg on 49 percent shooting, I believe. The only complaint I have right now are his turnovers, specifically in the last quarter.

no reason to worry hes done nothing but get better each game,especially after ditching the mask as u said



anyone saying different is just yapping w/ no base
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trade szn starting

cavs are sending joe harris & a 2017 draft pick to the magic for a 2020 draft pick (ESPN)
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@The Collector
 did this happen last night?


WASHINGTON_3.PNG Wizards
John Wall-G
Tue, 12 Jan 2016 01:50:00 PM
John Wall (left knee) will undergo an MRI on Thursday, rather than the original report of Tuesday. 

src: 
Washington Post

Nope. Been hurt all year with a knee prob. There's articles out there.
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What is the infatuation with Wall? He‘s okay, but he seems depressed and seems to be turning to low key quassi moto outcast. He‘s been rejected on all ballots and invites. No Team USA, no All-Star, no brand, no image, no marketability.

He only made a quick name dunking and costing high on fantasy leagues. Other than tbat his hair line is repulsing due to stress.

He seems to want acceptance somewhere, somehow.
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What is the infatuation with Wall? He‘s okay, but he seems depressed and seems to be turning to low key quassi moto outcast. He‘s been rejected on all ballots and invites. No Team USA, no All-Star, no brand, no image, no marketability.

He only made a quick name dunking and costing high on fantasy leagues. Other than tbat his hair line is repulsing due to stress.

He seems to want acceptance somewhere, somehow.

Well damn

"I apologize, turns out it was not the Thunder's year.  I wish they hadn't played the games"

 

 

"I apologize, turns out it was not the Thunder's year.  I wish they hadn't played the games"

 

 

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What is the infatuation with Wall? He‘s okay, but he seems depressed and seems to be turning to low key quassi moto outcast. He‘s been rejected on all ballots and invites. No Team USA, no All-Star, no brand, no image, no marketability.

He only made a quick name dunking and costing high on fantasy leagues. Other than tbat his hair line is repulsing due to stress.

He seems to want acceptance somewhere, somehow.

Don't forget he did The Dougie that one time, so he's basically the worst human being ever.
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Yea, you said they should trade Rose from cap space. That's not, nor should it happen laugh.gif

I said it wouldn't take much to get Rose if you offer cap relief. Not a controversial statement bro laugh.gif He's making 40 mil and yall are getting excited about an 8 game stretch. That should say it all.
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