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post #42511 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Based Jesus View Post
 


Drop Steph? You wildin out right now. If I had to drop some people it'd be Love and Klay but steph stays.

 

Klay inconsistent and don't need Love because you can put Melo or Bron or KD or PG in at the PF position if you want shooting from there.

 

i LOVE steph. but if im building a team with superstars in every position, i dont need a GOAT shooter as a pg, i need a great shooter and GOAT facilitator which is where cp3 comes in. i put kyrie over steph in this situation becuz kyrie has the experience already 

 

 

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I am looking at if from a structure standpoint.

 

You don't eliminate shooting. Klay and Steph have to be there.

 

Same with Love, no other big is going to stretch the floor like he will. Plus he had a very strong display in 2012.

 

klays shooting depends on a combination of  if the temperature outside the arena is an odd or a positive number, the day of the week, and the current price of tea in china. dude is NOT dependable.

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post #42512 of 93193
You dont leave off 2 elite 2 way players for legacy.

Leave off Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Love. Also replace Klay with Butler.
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post #42513 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Mister Friendly View Post

You dont leave off 2 of elite 2 way players for legacy.

Leave off Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Love. Also replace Klay with Butler.

the legacy players ARE elite. of course you leave them off. theyll have their time next time.

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post #42514 of 93193
Originally Posted by TEKtheMAESTRO View Post
 

klays shooting depends on a combination of  if the temperature outside the arena is an odd or a positive number, the day of the week, and the current price of tea in china. dude is NOT dependable.

You have data backing up how inconsistent his outside shooting is? Because sometimes what we see isn't really true.

 

I know he isn't KILLING it, but he is one of the best shooters in the NBA. He has to be there IMO

post #42515 of 93193
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Originally Posted by PMatic View Post

Boogie/Davis/Griffin

LeBron/Durant/Kawhi/PG/Melo/Harden

Curry/CP3/Westbrook

Ideally Melo/PG gets left off the roster and Klay is brought in.

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post #42516 of 93193
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You dont leave off 2 elite 2 way players for legacy.

Leave off Carmelo Anthony and Kevin Love. Also replace Klay with Butler.

Kawhi isn't an elite offensive player though. Butler is blossoming though.

 

And the people that have earned that legacy are all-time greats. 

 

Melo was arguably the best offensive player for the 2012 team. No way he should be considered to be replaced even by the biggest Melo detractor. Come on man

post #42517 of 93193
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You have data backing up how inconsistent his outside shooting is? Because sometimes what we see isn't really true.

 

I know he isn't KILLING it, but he is one of the best shooters in the NBA. He has to be there IMO

stats never tell the full story. statistically speaking klay was about to dominate in the finals. statistically klays shooting percentage from outside was incredible and he would dismantle the cavs cuz they HAVE to double team steph becuz statistically steph is raining from anywhere on the floor. but stats were wrong in all cases lol.

 

klay just inconsistent man. theres no way around it. when hes on, the arena is LITTTTTTTTTTTTT. ashes. but when hes off, he might as well be at home playing solitaire

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post #42518 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Mister Friendly View Post

You dont leave off 2 elite 2 way players for legacy.

 

They will bro.

 

Coach K essentially guaranteed Melo would be on the team because of their previous tours with Team USA

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post #42519 of 93193
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stats never tell the full story. statistically speaking klay was about to dominate in the finals. statistically klays shooting percentage from outside was incredible and he would dismantle the cavs cuz they HAVE to double team steph becuz statistically steph is raining from anywhere on the floor. but stats were wrong in all cases lol.

 

klay just inconsistent man. theres no way around it. when hes on, the arena is LITTTTTTTTTTTTT. ashes. but when hes off, he might as well be at home playing solitaire

Nah, there are stats floating around that highlight shooting consistency. I know there is OLD data about it not sure if anyone made it for this and last year.

 

Scroll down and look at the spreadsheet

 

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post #42520 of 93193
Leonard is a shoo-in. Dude def deserving of being on that team
post #42521 of 93193
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klay just inconsistent man. theres no way around it. when hes on, the arena is LITTTTTTTTTTTTT. ashes. but when hes off, he might as well be at home playing solitaire

I need data supporting that.

post #42522 of 93193
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Leonard is a shoo-in. Dude def deserving of being on that team

 

He's absolutely deserving no doubt.

 

I don't think he'll make the final cut though

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post #42523 of 93193
He's making the final cut man. It's not even a question IMO.

We'll see tho
post #42524 of 93193
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Leonard is a shoo-in. Dude def deserving of being on that team

How much do you want to bet he doesn't make it?

 

@ksteezy can hold the money

post #42525 of 93193
kawhi and draymond will make it. great system guys!
post #42526 of 93193
When I used the word elite I mean in conjuction with 2 way players.

Much to the game than just offense.
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post #42527 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Mister Friendly View Post

When I used the word elite I mean in conjuction with 2 way players.

Much to the game than just offense.

Of course it is but again, legacy should be and will be considered. So to say, elite 2 way players shouldn't be passed up by legacy AS IF "legacy" (Melo) doesn't KILL in the international game. The name of the game is to score buckets. Melo does that as well as anyone of the last 20 years. You don't push that aside 

post #42528 of 93193
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I need data supporting that.

klays last 5 games: 20%, 40, ,40, 50, 14%..... and this is one of the best months this season for him. october was a nightmare

 

JAN 16, 2016 - GSW @ DET L 32 24 8 18 44.4 1 5 20.0 7 8 87.5 1 5 6 1 0 0 2 1 -4
JAN 14, 2016 - GSW vs. LAL W 27 12 4 14 28.6 2 5 40.0 2 2 100 1 2 3 1 0 1 1 2 10
JAN 13, 2016 - GSW @ DEN L 37 17 7 13 53.8 2 5 40.0 1 2 50.0 1 3 4 3 0 0 2 2 4
JAN 11, 2016 - GSW vs. MIA W 35 17 6 15 40.0 2 4 50.0 3 3 100 1 6 7 2 2 0 3 2 -3
JAN 09, 2016 - GSW @ SAC W 35 15 7 17 41.2 1 7 14.3 0 0 0.0 0 4 4 6 0 1 2 1 17

 

 

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post #42529 of 93193
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When I used the word elite I mean in conjuction with 2 way players.

Much to the game than just offense.

Bruh you know logic isn't allowed in this thread. Being a two way player means nothing if you can't score 30 on any given night and dance. Breaking down and collapsing defense, running offense, passing to the open man in their spots, on ball defense, rebounding, blocks, steals all are secondary skills.
post #42530 of 93193
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Bruh you know logic isn't allowed in this thread. Being a two way player means nothing if you can't score 30 on any given night and dance. Breaking down and collapsing defense, running offense, passing to the open man in their spots, on ball defense, rebounding, blocks, steals all are secondary skills.

Who said any of that?

post #42531 of 93193
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Who said any of that?

It's a general statement. Not directed towards any one person.
post #42532 of 93193
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post #42533 of 93193

Yea but that isn't fair man because if we are talking about removing elite players in favor of 65/35 (defense/offense) Two-Way players, you are going to have to fight and explain why that two-way players deserves the nod

 

Kawhi over Melo, I say hell no

post #42534 of 93193
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Yea but that isn't fair man because if we are talking about removing elite players in favor of 65/35 (defense/offense) Two-Way players, you are going to have to fight and explain why that two-way players deserves the nod

Kawhi over Melo, I say hell no

It would apply to anyone who thinks Irving making team USA over John Wall is anything other then his affiliation with Duke.
post #42535 of 93193
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It would apply to anyone who thinks Irving making team USA over John Wall is anything other then his affiliation with Duke.

:lol I should have known what that was about.

 

I was over here defending Melo vs. Kahwi.

post #42536 of 93193

kawhi has to on the team. no way pg over kawhi. 

post #42537 of 93193
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laugh.gif  I should have known what that was about.

I was over here defending Melo vs. Kahwi.

I hear you. It wasn't directed towards any one person like I said. It makes logical sense on a team USA where scoring is in abundance, the last thing you need is more scoring. Distributors is what you'd need more of.
post #42538 of 93193
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Yea but that isn't fair man because if we are talking about removing elite players in favor of 65/35 (defense/offense) Two-Way players, you are going to have to fight and explain why that two-way players deserves the nod

Kawhi over Melo, I say hell no

It would apply to anyone who thinks Irving making team USA over John Wall is anything other then his affiliation with Duke.

 

Kyrie was the world cup MVP. He already has experience against the best the rest of the world has to offer. He's not getting cut in favor of John Wall.

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post #42539 of 93193
Someone said to drop Steph off the roster in favor for CP3?

Buggin

Lol
post #42540 of 93193
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kawhi has to on the team. no way pg over kawhi. 

Why not? Offensively, Kawhi is more limited than PG. Both are top notch defensively, of course nobody is on KAwhi's level there. But don't "No way" it as if it isn't an argument at all LOL

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