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Originally Posted by Keko Jones View Post

Never been in a leadership position?

Just be quiet fool ...

You don't know what you are saying ...

Whether Blatt attempted to impose himself or not, you don't know but what many if not all know, even if he did Lebron was never going to listen!

BTW, the same way you assumed I never been a leader the same way I can assume you are working for minimum wage. You don't air your business to the world!

Bruh what the hell are you talking about. I obviously struck a nerve. If you don't understand that a hierarchy exists that you have to work around I'm going to assume you've never been in a leadership position.

Back to the topic. "We all know lebron was never going to listen". I'd like to see you attempt to build an argument to justify this. Apparently he respected Spoelstra/Riley enough to buy into what they were preaching so what are you talking about?
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post #46473 of 93193
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Originally Posted by th3answ3r View Post




it's like two different people. must suck to have to be a yes man with lebron's ego making you feel deflated

He's so incompetent!

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post #46474 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Mister Friendly View Post

@leemelone watch out, you can't be logical in anything that relates to Lebron or you'll be accused on being a Lebron Stan or caping. laugh.gif

Man laugh.gif. I guess it's good coaching when you walk in as a nobody and try to knock someone down a couple notches who is much more accomplished and established than you are.

What Blatt did overseas is irrelevant. He has to start from scratch, nobody gives a damn what you did in Euroleague. It's like an intern going into a board meeting and interrupting the ceo telling him how they are going to be running things from now on. Fair or not that's the reality of it and really the crux of the job is understanding this dynamic and working with it.
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Bruh what the hell are you talking about. I obviously struck a nerve. If you don't understand that a hierarchy exists that you have to work around I'm going to assume you've never been in a leadership position.

Back to the topic. "We all know lebron was never going to listen". I'd like to see you attempt to build an argument to justify this. Apparently he respected Spoelstra/Riley enough to buy into what they were preaching so what are you talking about?

You didn't strike a nerve at all ....

However, your concept of leadership is fundamentally flawed.

A good soldier would address the situation with his superior, hopefully the issue is resolved and they can move on.

On the after action, you address the pros and cons (in-house) - make corrective actions and prepare COA (course of actions for the future). 

What you don't do is debrief with media and tell him, my superior is an idiot and I and only I stood up and say Im right and you need to back down. This clearly is a violation of every hierarchy that you can come up with ....

 

If you don't see that, then you are on the low totem pole - very dispensable!

 

In Miami, he didn't have a choice - I'm sure there were plenty of times he had to hold his tongue or go see the MAN!

 

In Clev his holding an entire organization hostage - from bad trades, to bad signings to bad contracts .... This dude signs two year deals to make sure they are doing what he wants.

 

But then again, this is Blatts fault - but Lue is the savior .. LMAO

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Are we taking bets for the Warriors vs Spurs game??
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post #46477 of 93193
boycotting this game
#clevelandsolebron
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they destroying blatt

every gm midas well be like this


Edited by DMan14 - 1/23/16 at 3:48pm
post #46478 of 93193
Lebron just came off of back to back finals losses. Don't care how decorated of a player he is, you don't come back to the organization imposing your will on EVERY aspect within said organization. You automatically get the GM to trade the current #1 draft pick for a guy who's game you admire from afar only to try and get him to bend to you mafia-esque locker room clique. Grossly overpaying a bench forward and now you black balled the coach.

Regardless of how much Blatt needed to prove himself to an NBA super star who has lost more than he won, Lebron should've known what type of atmosphere he was brewing within the cavs locker room. Kevin Love is next because he has been the only player to show that he doesn't care what lebron thinks.

Basketball gods are watching. They will make a nice example out of Lebron.
post #46479 of 93193
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it's like two different people. must suck to have to be a yes man with lebron's ego making you feel deflated

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I think David Blatt will find a job real quick back in the NBA
But probably as an assistant or a coach of some lottery team
I can see him coaching the Lakers nerd.gif
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Are we taking bets for the Warriors vs Spurs game??

I got $150 on the dubs. Srs.
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I got $150 on the dubs. Srs.

Got a rack on the dubs. Go big or go home
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Originally Posted by eddiengambino View Post

I think David Blatt will find a job real quick back in the NBA
But probably as an assistant or a coach of some lottery team
I can see him coaching the Lakers nerd.gif

NO MORE EX-CAVS COACHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Got a rack on the dubs. Go big or go home

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Originally Posted by Keko Jones View Post

A good soldier would address the situation with his superior, hopefully the issue is resolved and they can move on.

This is what you're not understanding. Lebron is not the soldier in this scenario. He's the sergeant. He's the commander. He's not dispensable. Blatt is. If it was pat Riley or phil jackson or Gregg pop then it would be a different story.

It's not the military. It's politics. You have to come in and stroke egos to an extent in order to get your voice heard. If lebron has your back the whole squad falls in line. Lebron don't listen, nobody listens. Right or wrong it is what it is and there's no way around it which is why Blatt now finds himself on the way out of it.

It's why so many college coaches fail on the nba level. They're used to being the alpha male. It's their program, they have the experience, they have the clout, they make the money. They say jump and players say how high --or else. They get to the nba and can't adjust to the dynamics of not being at the top of the food chain.
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NO MORE EX-CAVS COACHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Watch, next year Kupchak hires Blatt
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I got $150 on the dubs. Srs.

Got a rack on the dubs. Go big or go home

Fine I got a rack on them too. Now we just gotta find someone to take our bets.
post #46490 of 93193
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Originally Posted by leemelone View Post

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Originally Posted by Keko Jones View Post

A good soldier would address the situation with his superior, hopefully the issue is resolved and they can move on.

This is what you're not understanding. Lebron is not the soldier in this scenario. He's the sergeant. He's the commander. He's not dispensable. Blatt is. If it was pat Riley or phil jackson or Gregg pop then it would be a different story.

It's politics. You have to come in and stroke egos to an extent in order to get your voice heard. If lebron has your back the whole squad falls in line. Lebron don't listen, nobody listens. Right or wrong it is what it is and there's no way around it which is why Blatt now finds himself on the way out of it.

It's why so many college coaches fail on the nba level. They're used to being the alpha male. It's their program, they have the experience, they have the clout, they make the money. They say jump and players say how high --or else. They get to the nba and can't adjust to the dynamics of not being at the top of the food chain.

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This is what you're not understanding. Lebron is not the soldier in this scenario. He's the sergeant. He's the commander. He's not dispensable. Blatt is. If it was pat Riley or phil jackson or Gregg pop then it would be a different story.

It's politics. You have to come in and stroke egos to an extent in order to get your voice heard. If lebron has your back the whole squad falls in line. Lebron don't listen, nobody listens. Right or wrong it is what it is and there's no way around it which is why Blatt now finds himself on the way out of it.

It's why so many college coaches fail on the nba level. They're used to being the alpha male. It's their program, they have the experience, they have the clout, they make the money. They say jump and players say how high --or else. They get to the nba and can't adjust to the dynamics of not being at the top of the food chain.

What you don't understand about regardless who is or who's not,  your organizational problems stay within the organization?

 

You can spin this any which way you can, but the fact of the matter is - Lebron if he is the leader he is not a good leader.

 

I would love to see a player come out of the players only meeting and air everything out ...

 

Come on, even you can't be this slow!

 

Lebron is a Cancer .. in the NBA good coaches still prevail regardless of their divas - however, their divas aren't taking shots at their coaches every opportunity that is presented.

post #46492 of 93193
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Originally Posted by leemelone View Post

This is what you're not understanding. Lebron is not the soldier in this scenario. He's the sergeant. He's the commander. He's not dispensable. Blatt is. If it was pat Riley or phil jackson or Gregg pop then it would be a different story.

It's not the military. It's politics. You have to come in and stroke egos to an extent in order to get your voice heard. If lebron has your back the whole squad falls in line. Lebron don't listen, nobody listens. Right or wrong it is what it is and there's no way around it which is why Blatt now finds himself on the way out of it.

It's why so many college coaches fail on the nba level. They're used to being the alpha male. It's their program, they have the experience, they have the clout, they make the money. They say jump and players say how high --or else. They get to the nba and can't adjust to the dynamics of not being at the top of the food chain.

Yeah the flaw in what you're saying is Blatt was hired to be the captain, since we're using military as a reference, Bron is enlisted. He can be first Sgt, doesn't matter you still answer to the captain. Period. The problem wasn't that blatt was trying to impose his will or couldn't or whatever nonsense you're spewing it's very very simple. Blatt couldn't do his job because the Cavs organization wouldn't empower him. Period. Like I said before Bron has never in his entire life won where he wasn't held accountable. Ever.
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Originally Posted by leemelone View Post

This is what you're not understanding. Lebron is not the soldier in this scenario. He's the sergeant. He's the commander. He's not dispensable. Blatt is. If it was pat Riley or phil jackson or Gregg pop then it would be a different story.

It's not the milotary. It's politics. You have to come in and stroke egos to an extent in order to get your voice heard. If lebron has your back the whole squad falls in line. Lebron don't listen, nobody listens. Right or wrong it is what it is and there's no way around it which is why Blatt now finds himself on the way out of it.

It's why so many college coaches fail on the nba level. They're used to being the alpha male. It's their program, they have the experience, they have the clout, they make the money. They say jump and players say how high --or else. They get to the nba and can't adjust to the dynamics of not being at the top of the food chain.

The problem that so many, including myself have about the situation is that no matter what Blatt did he would've never had lebron's "respect". So making a coach as decorated as Blatt appear to seem incompetent just so your image is protected is another reason why people want to see him fail. Lebron keeps pretending to be something he isn't and now the world is catching on....
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I can see you are far too immature for this discussion. It's not spin, it's reality. You're not understanding and your bias against lebron prevents you from seeing the way things work and have always worked between superstars and their coaches. At ease soldier.
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I can see you are far too immature for this discussion. It's not spin, it's reality. You're not understanding and your bias against lebron prevents you from seeing the way things work and have always worked between superstars and their coaches. At ease soldier.

LMAO ...

 

Immature ...

 

Again, no matter how you try to spin it, you don't air your dirty laundry.

 

Seems to me that you have a problem with authority or at least you don't grasp the concept.

 

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Fine I got a rack on them too. Now we just gotta find someone to take our bets.

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Yeah the flaw in what you're saying is Blatt was hired to be the captain, since we're using military as a reference, Bron is enlisted. He can be first Sgt, doesn't matter you still answer to the captain. Period. The problem wasn't that blatt was trying to impose his will or couldn't or whatever nonsense you're spewing it's very very simple. Blatt couldn't do his job because the Cavs organization wouldn't empower him. Period. Like I said before Bron has never in his entire life won where he wasn't held accountable. Ever.

Let's drop the military analogy, that's not at all how this works. The coach is not at the top of the totem pole, especially not blatt. Unlike the military these guys aren't obligated to do what you say. It's on the coach to get players to buy in. That's your number one job. If you can't do that you aren't gonna be able to incorporate any of your ideas. Phil used to kiss shaq's *** to an extent because he had to and he was smart enough to know that. It's just the way it is. People come to the arena to see the players not the coaches. The inmates run the asylum.
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Originally Posted by Keko Jones View Post

LMAO ...

Immature ...

Again, no matter how you try to spin it, you don't air your dirty laundry.

Seems to me that you have a problem with authority or at least you don't grasp the concept.

three nters with a bit of a difference reply ... all with the same concept.

Your concept of authority is warped from what I'm assuming is your military experience. In real life you don't just scream in people's faces and make them do pushups and all of a sudden they respect you. Until you understand that this ain't Vietnam there's nothing to discuss.
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Originally Posted by leemelone View Post


Let's drop the military analogy, that's not at all how this works. The coach is not at the top of the totem pole, especially not blatt. Unlike the military these guys aren't obligated to do what you say. It's on the coach to get players to buy in. That's your number one job. If you can't do that you aren't gonna be able to incorporate any of your ideas. Phil used to kiss shaq's *** to an extent because he had to and he was smart enough to know that. It's just the way it is. People come to the arena to see the players not the coaches. The inmates run the asylum.

You can apply that to anything ...

 

Like someone else, if the organization doesn't empower their coaches, then you have this fiasco.

 

They aren't obligated to do what you say - they signed a damn contract .. LMAO

 

I can see your argument that this is a superstar driving league but your point of view or at least what you are trying to convey is popestrous .

 

Lebron is not a good leader nor is he a good employee .....

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