2015-2016 NBA Regular Season - MDA to HOU - All-NBA - Harden snubbed - Anthony Davis is broke

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WavyCrocket said:
I'll be watching in the cut
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. I don't think he has a high chance at being a perennial All Star caliber player. I see him at best being a Goran Dragic level of player. At worst, he's Ramon Sessions level of player.

I've said plenty of times...when he plays well, I always give him his props. When he plays bad, I'll call him out on it. Thought this season, he's been about 70% bad and 30% good.

I've said this plenty of times. I think he'll be fine in this league and have a long career. Don't see him as a potential star, or a franchise building block. That's all.
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This been a fun discussion all year. I just feel like even when you giving him props you mask it with "it was in garbage time" or something like that. He had a solid December and you hardly acknowledged as such

Then you factor in the fact that you hold it against him for being the #2 pick and that he's doing historically bad for a #2 pick.. that's where it's like, come on fam

Dude has to deal with Kobe/Lou/Swaggy jacking shots, has to deal with Byron. If Jabari Parker can use the Jason Kidd excuse and the teammate excuse, Russell should too

Anyway, NO HATE TOWARDS YOU, I'm just also trying to call it how I see it
 
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I'm waitig for the Draymond > Steph arguments to begin

Better Defender
Better Rebounder
Avg more assists
Higher Leadership Per Game
Higher True Winner Rating


Better overall player. #notevenclose
 
lawdog1 said:
The Draymond hype this year is so consistent with the Warriors rise overall. So sudden and accelerated. Like, I don't recall him even being in the discussion for top 5 at the position even last year. Now there's a good amount of people basically calling him the best PF in the league.
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I mean, it is what it is. Every year since Blake broke out, and the and the Clips became hated....there have been constant attempts to try and discredit Blake as "the best pf" in the game.

Even when he finished top 3 in MVP voting in a season where Bron and KD put up historic numbers, LMA and Love were better....last year, AD was better...every year...it's a new thing.

Blake has been the one constant PF playing at an elite level for the past 4 or so years....but people get bored of that, and continuosuly try to find a new flavor of the month that's "better".
 
Vincent Van Ho said:
This been a fun discussion all year. I just feel like even when you giving him props you mask it with "it was in garbage time" or something like that. He had a solid December and you hardly acknowledged as such

Then you factor in the fact that you hold it against him for being the #2 pick and that he's doing historically bad for a #2 pick.. that's where it's like, come on fam

Dude has to deal with Kobe/Lou/Swaggy jacking shots, has to deal with Byron. If Jabari Parker can use the Jason Kidd excuse and the teammate excuse, Russell should too

Anyway, NO HATE TOWARDS YOU, I'm just also trying to call it how I see it
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The good games D-lo has had that I've seen mostly have been semi competitive games. Like last night, he showed heart and balled. And typically, I'd give him his due. It's fun to hate on him a lil bit...so I'll throw a snide comment here and there :lol:. But I really can't hate on good basketball.

When dudes run out posting highlight videos of 6/17 shooting nights and 14pts in a blowout loss with the majority of the points in garbage time....Imma call it out. When he's 5/22 in his last few games....and everybody is quiet...is what's funny to me. But he has a good game, and he's a "future all star" etc.

Parker thru 25 games was a lot better than D-Lo has been this year. And this year, he's coming off a major injury and playing a limited role...so it's a lil different.

All in all, I'm interested to see how D-lo turns out. In either going to eat crow, or look like a genius. That's the fun of this :pimp:.
 
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ColdCity said:
Derozen opting out huh...wonder where he could go
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Back to Toronto. Would be shocked if he doesn't
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DeMar DeRozan says he hates talking about free agency.

Well, someone is doing it on his behalf.

Brian Lewis of the New York Post:


“a source close to DeRozan told The Post that he will opt out, becoming a free agent”

This confirms that DeRozan isn’t stupid but says little else.

If he opted in, he’d make $10,050,000 next season. He’ll earn much more than that in free agency – maybe even a max contract that starts at more than $25 million.

DeRozan – averaging 22.6 points, 4.2 rebounds and 4.2 assists per game – is having a career year at age 26. With the salary cap skyrocketing and a dearth of quality wings, he’ll have no shortage of suitors.

Will the Raptors re-sign him? They seem to like him, but this core has yet to win a playoff series. If they get bounced in the first-round around again this year, they could break it up.

He’ll be the type of free agent – unrestricted, to be highly paid, coming from a team potentially changing directions – that sometimes gets away.

Still, I’d call Toronto his most likely landing spot. A five-year max contract should run through his prime, so the Raptors face reduced risk of overpaying on the back end. He appears to like Toronto, too.

The Raptors are a good fit for DeRozan, but both sides will at least have an opportunity to explore other options.
 
Dudes should definitely not be "bragging" about DLO's season, I hope there wasn't too much of that going on. My thing is, he's playing solid for a rookie. I don't know if I see perennial All-Star either, but look at someone like Mike Conley. I feel like he is generally respected and looked at by NT (outside of @Chester McFloppy) in high regard. I don't see why Russell couldn't be that caliber of a guard

I definitely don't think dude is having a historically bad year for a #2 pick. I also argue that there are only two or three guys at MOST that I would have taken before Russell 
 
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LeBron James finally addressed Andrew Wiggins' absence in the Sports Illustrated letter where the superstar announced his return to the Cleveland Cavaliers. James mentioned Kyrie Irving, Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters by name as "talented young guys," and he left out No. 1 overall picks Wiggins and Anthony Bennett, who both ended up being traded to the Minnesota Timberwolves for Kevin Love.

"I didn't know the kid, really," James told Yahoo Sports' Michael Lee. "I knew Dion. I knew Kyrie. I knew Tristan. I knew all the guys that I was playing with before. I didn't know the kid, so it wasn't no big issue to me."

A few thoughts:

1. Maybe it wasn't a big issue for James, but it was obvoius that everybody else would run with it. The Love-for-Wiggins rumors were in full swing, and the then-19-year-old's summer got awkward when it took until Aug. 23 for the trade to be officially completed. I'll never forget him telling reporters at summer league how excited he was to play with James, and them following up by asking if James had reached out to him yet. Wiggins said no. I'll also never forget him saying the same thing in this SportsCenter interview at the rookie photo shoot:



2. James didn't know Wiggins well, but they weren't completely unfamiliar. Wiggins put on a show at the LeBron James Skills Academy in 2012, and here's another thing I'll never forget: Wiggins quietly waiting outisde of the visiting locker room at the Air Canada Centre in 2013 when the Miami Heat were in town. When James came out, he greeted Wiggins with, "What's up? You good? How's everything?"

3. This is all moot now. As Lee explained in detail, everybody seems happy with what happened. James wanted to play with Love, a proven superstar, and compete for a championship immediately. Wiggins didn't have to wait his turn; in Minnesota, he was given the ball and encouraged to be as aggressive as possible. It's fair to wonder what might have been with Wiggins next to James, but it doesn't seem like there are any hard feelings.
 
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