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So, these numbers you found have Thunder as a TOP THREE defense, with Roberson on the floor? Right.....

:rofl: let me see these numbers bro, that's BS
 
ill steelo said:
They've played the Spurs & Warriors a combined 1 game, and that was on opening night. Those stats are meaningless when predicting how they would fare against those 2 in a playoff series.

I highly doubt Roberson will be in the rotation by the end of the series.
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*2 games, but I'm agreeing with you 
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The stats I'm using aren't to prove that they would best GSW or SAS in a 7 game series. I agree that he won't be playable. 

What I typed, was a long winded way of saying A-friend isn't gripping how important he is to their success thus far this season. I'm not putting any of that barring however, on how they'll perform against the elite in the playoffs. But over the course of 82? He's absolutely been vital to their great season thus far.
 
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a-friend said:
So, these numbers you found have Thunder as a TOP THREE defense, with Roberson on the floor? Right.....

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let me see these numbers bro, that's BS
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http://stats.nba.com/league/lineups/#!/advanced/

Among lineups that have played 500 minutes or more together this season, there hasn't been five teams with a better defensive rating than OKC with Roberson on the floor. But again, that's why they are flawed.
 
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My man said borderline elite defensively for one(impossible)but borderline elite with Roberson on the floor(impossible)

You need to take a break from the per and DFR and yield to steal ratios and do this, pick any Thunder game this year, go watch the whole 1st quarter, and tell me what is "elite" about Roberson or the OKC defense with him on the floor.

Not only can Roberson not score, HE CANT DEFNED, I don't care what these stats of your say.


Post the stats though.....post these links and stuff you have, I need to see what your looking at, so I can never use their stats for DFS, ever
 
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My man said borderline elite defensively for one(impossible)but borderline elite with Roberson on the floor(impossible)

You need to take a break from the per and DFR and yield to steal ratios and do this, pick any Thunder game this year, go watch the whole 1st quarter, and tell me what is "elite" about Roberson or the OKC defense with him on the floor.

Not only can Roberson not score, HE CANT DEFNED, I don't care what these stats of your say.


Post the stats though.....post these links and stuff you have, I need to see what your looking at, so I can never use their stats for DFS, ever
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I mean, I don't know what to say 
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Maybe their starting five defensive rating with Roberson is a massive lie and it's all just horse **** man lolololol he has nothing to do with it since he CANT DEFEND

Maybe opponents missing against him is pure luck or something lol because he CANT DEFEND then obviously he's just lucky lololol

you got it.
 
Um not trying to beat you up, I'm just shocked to hear
1. OKC will miss Roberson
2. Thunder is elite with him on the floor
3. OKC is top 3 or anything with Roberson


I'm shocked when I hear such things, because some .com said so. I'm shocked because 1. Of course you know I actually watch him and them and 2. I don't think I've seen any player at any position (Kanter included) give up more career highs than Roberson has, this year alone.

I'm leaving the office though, first thing I'm going to do when I get home is look at this link you dropped
 
When someone says 'go watch any first quarter' I almost want to tell them to 'go watch quarters 2-4' because you just gave your 25% viewing habits away :lol:
 
NobleKane said:
So if the cavs beat the spurs tonight.....
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I don't think it would really mean anything.

I've said this before, but this whole season is basically a wash to me besides the Western Conference Finals between the Warriors and Spurs. There's nobody beating either team IMO. Westbrook and Durant would have to have two of the most legendary performances ever vs either of them to have a chance. And even then...I don't think there's any chance in hell that the Thunder could beat the Spurs in a 7 game series THEN have to beat the Warriors in a 7 game series right after.

The only thing that could shake this season up is if some major trades go down.
 
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Um not trying to beat you up, I'm just shocked to hear
1. OKC will miss Roberson
2. Thunder is elite with him on the floor
3. OKC is top 3 or anything with Roberson


I'm shocked when I hear such things, because some .com said so. I'm shocked because 1. Of course you know I actually watch him and them and 2. I don't think I've seen any player at any position (Kanter included) give up more career highs than Roberson has, this year alone.

I'm leaving the office though, first thing I'm going to do when I get home is look at this link you dropped
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You're screaming selection bias.

The numbers are what they are. Those are the facts. How one interprets them is subjective, but The Thunder's defensive rating is through the room with their starting five that includes Roberson.

So you saying He can't defend because of what you see...yeah something isn't adding up. You're watching with a bias towards Roberson's ineptness on both ends.
 
I think the "My turn, your turn" offense with Durant and Westbrook could work against the Warriors a la LeBron last year in the Finals. Westbrook probably isn't disciplined enough though.
 
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 http://stats.nba.com/league/lineups/#!/advanced/
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Now, I'm not too privy to these type of lists but, just click the link and look at the 1st 5 teams and who is there and who is not. (this isn't a red flag for you?)

Now, see the column that says "defrtg", click that and it puts them in order from 1-30,  and now tell me who is top 5, and where the Thunder ranks in defrtg, the stat you were discussing.

Ok, now back to your point, lets say this stat you post is correct and you are reading it right, is it not the same for me to say that that defensive rating can be atributed to anybody in the starting 5, not Roberson alone or specifically.

You make a case that they are top 3(which we now find to be incorrect) with Roberson on the floor, why can't I say they are top 3(which they are not) with Ibaka on the floor, or KD, or Russ, or Adams.
 
PMatic said:
I think the "My turn, your turn" offense with Durant and Westbrook could work against the Warriors a la LeBron last year in the Finals. Westbrook probably isn't disciplined enough though.
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It could maybe work in one series vs the Spurs or Warriors...but could it work vs somebody like the Clippers in the first round then BOTH the Spurs and Warriors in back to back series just to get to the Finals?
 
Worth noting that the Thunder have had the Spurs number in recent years, they just haven't been healthy. I know the supporting cast/team outside of KD, Westbrook, and Ibaka are different, but they've retained the top 3 from that.

Spurs have improved (Kawhi, LA) and gotten worse in spots (Parker, etc. not the same as they were in year's past).
 
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PMatic said:
I think the "My turn, your turn" offense with Durant and Westbrook could work against the Warriors a la LeBron last year in the Finals. Westbrook probably isn't disciplined enough though.
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It could maybe work in one series vs the Spurs or Warriors...but could it work vs somebody like the Clippers in the first round then BOTH the Spurs and Warriors in back to back series just to get to the Finals?
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I think they'll compete, no matter who they play. Beat? Who knows because the west is tough.
 
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