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post #61921 of 93193
What Shelley said was "Slander"......woah-dat ether *rolls eyes

Shelly didn't day anything that all of us hadn't already said, fact is she actually had a relationship or sort with him and we never did, I think she's more than qualified to make that assessment, and she likely made it correctly

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post #61922 of 93193
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Welp, I'm now more of a fan of Shelley.


And lawdog.
And lakersman.

" . . . what a long, strange trip its been . . . " The Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" (and a good summary of my life as an LA Clippers fan)
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post #61923 of 93193
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Originally Posted by shoeking2102 View Post

Why do we assume the wose in people?

Shelly could have just as easily assumed that Kobe butied the hatchet, and has let the past be just that. But she chose to believe he's faking it. Why?

Being nice is a good thing. Who cares if he's faking it, or not? The point is, is that he performed a nice gesture towards you. Dont overthink it, and if you must overthink it, let those thoughts be positive.

Think and assume the best from people. Pessimistic people suck to be around

You forgive people that betrayed you that easily and just let them back in like that? It's one thing to be positive and optimistic. It's another to be naive.
post #61924 of 93193
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Originally Posted by shoeking2102 View Post

Why do we assume the wose in people?

Shelly could have just as easily assumed that Kobe butied the hatchet, and has let the past be just that. But she chose to believe he's faking it. Why?

Being nice is a good thing. Who cares if he's faking it, or not? The point is, is that he performed a nice gesture towards you. Dont overthink it, and if you must overthink it, let those thoughts be positive.

Think and assume the best from people. Pessimistic people suck to be around

im mad how u just so easily said what took me like 6 posts to say lol repped

post #61925 of 93193
Someone plays the ******* for 19 years, has a shift in attitude suddenly, and we're supposed to believe it?

post #61926 of 93193
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All right. I respect your opinion, but not sure I agree with it. Typically, people have to earn the benefit of the doubt. And I don't know that Kobe has in this situation. But its not for me to say. In the end, I agree with those who are saying nobody did anything wrong here. Genuine or not, it was good for Kobe to make the gesture to talk to Smith again. But she also has the right to question his motives.

To build on this comment this isn't who Kobe has been for the last two decades. Can someone flip the switch and change on a dime or is there an ulterior motive? Kobe is in a tough spot(that he put himself in) with his behavior over the last twenty years. He hasn't needed the media as long as he could get on the floor and do something spectacular to make everyone look on in awe. Kobe wielded the power to make his own case by his phenomenal play. He can't do that anymore. Now others, including the media, will still have their say and he won't be able to make a rebuttal because Kobe was never anything more than an outstanding basketball player. Once you hang up the sneakers you are just left with what kind of man you are.

Not saying there is any way of knowing how things go for Kobe going forward or how he will be perceived/remembered, but less is in his hands than previously.

Maybe he becomes a great humanitarian and starts looking out for other people. Up to him.

But as it stands Smith has every right to question his motive. Either he was genuine and just has very suspicious timing or he's putting on an act. At the current time they look the same.
post #61927 of 93193
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You forgive people that betrayed you that easily and just let them back in like that? It's one thing to be positive and optimistic. It's another to be naive.

Yes, Yes I do. Naive implies you dont know. What im saying is that this isnt about being naive because the reasoning behind it doesnt matter

I forgive. Life's too short to hold all that betrayal, hatred, and cold in your heart.

At the end of the day its much harder to carry hate than to let things go. Things happen. **** happens. You forgive and move on. Doesnt menyou have to become buddy buddy but ****, let things go

Its easier that way. For me at least it is

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post #61928 of 93193
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You forgive people that betrayed you that easily and just let them back in like that? It's one thing to be positive and optimistic. It's another to be naive.

Yes, Yes I do. Naive implies you dont know. What im saying is that this isnt about being naive because the reasoning behind it doesnt matter

I forgive. Life's too short to hold all that betrayal, hatred, and cold in your heart.

At the end of the day its much harder to carry hate than to let things go. Things happen. **** happens. You forgive and move on. Doesnt menyou have to become buddy buddy but ****, let things go

Its easier that way. For me at least it is

this is a solid post

 

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post #61929 of 93193
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What Shelley said was "Slander"......woah-dat ether *rolls eyes

Shelly didn't day anything that all of us hadn't already said, fact is she actually had a relationship or sort with him and we never did, I think she's more than qualified to make that assessment, and she likely made it correctly

thats like saying all players were faking it in frony of the fans.
post #61930 of 93193
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You forgive people that betrayed you that easily and just let them back in like that? It's one thing to be positive and optimistic. It's another to be naive.

Yes, Yes I do. Naive implies you dont know. What im saying is that this isnt about being naive because the reasoning behind it doesnt matter

I forgive. Life's too short to hold all that betrayal, hatred, and cold in your heart.

At the end of the day its much harder to carry hate than to let things go. Things happen. **** happens. You forgive and move on. Doesnt menyou have to become buddy buddy but ****, let things go

Its easier that way. For me at least it is

Thing is she didn't reject the hug or tell him to **** off. She played it cool. She just said she doesn't believe it's genuine. I doubt she's losing sleep over it. She just sees through the fake **** and is playing along. I applaud her honesty.

Back to Basketball doe.

I got the kings putting the paws on the Clippers tonight. Cousins finna go hamburger.
post #61931 of 93193
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Its easier that way. For me at least it is

And that's really what it comes down to. How each of us interacts with other people is a very individual, personal thing. We're different in terms of the qualities we value in other people and what are willing to overlook. Some people just aren't wired to forgive and forget as easily as others. So, I think your attitude and philosophy about these things is great. I tend to try and focus on the positive as well. But I'm not going to fault someone who can't do that as easily.
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post #61932 of 93193
Ty lawson and H Tine talking about a buyout. Welp

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post #61933 of 93193
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You forgive people that betrayed you that easily and just let them back in like that? It's one thing to be positive and optimistic. It's another to be naive.

Yes, Yes I do. Naive implies you dont know. What im saying is that this isnt about being naive because the reasoning behind it doesnt matter

I forgive. Life's too short to hold all that betrayal, hatred, and cold in your heart.

At the end of the day its much harder to carry hate than to let things go. Things happen. **** happens. You forgive and move on. Doesnt menyou have to become buddy buddy but ****, let things go

Its easier that way. For me at least it is

Pretty much and add in the fact that she just survived breast cancer, which many women don't, there's really no reason she should be holding any grudges IMO.

Be blessed that you're still alive Shelley, be happy Kobe came down off his high horse and put the BS aside to show you some respect during your worst times.
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post #61934 of 93193
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Ty lawson and H Tine talking about a buyout. Welp

Also read that Kevin Martin and Minny are working on a buyout. @OKC fans - are your wing issues bad enough that you'd take him back? Or nah?
" . . . what a long, strange trip its been . . . " The Grateful Dead, "Truckin'" (and a good summary of my life as an LA Clippers fan)
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post #61935 of 93193
Or maybe dude saw someone that he had beef with going through real life situations and realized that there are things in life bigger than some words on a page and he just wanted to offer her some support in her fight. I highly doubt he needs anything from her. And with her talking **** after dude showed love, it just makes her seems bitter and small.

i bet bread she hugged him back.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #61936 of 93193
Originally Posted by shoeking2102

Why do we assume the wose in people?

Shelly could have just as easily assumed that Kobe butied the hatchet, and has let the past be just that. But she chose to believe he's faking it. Why?

Being nice is a good thing. Who cares if he's faking it, or not? The point is, is that he performed a nice gesture towards you. Dont overthink it, and if you must overthink it, let those thoughts be positive.

Think and assume the best from people. Pessimistic people suck to be around

Cognitive dissonance.

 

Naivete.

 

Willful ignorance.

 

All things that systematically allow people to act a fool with no recourse, no accountability.

'Assuming the worst' is only in play when you have no baseline to go off of. If a baseline has already been established, then you are not 'assuming the worst' if you have reservations based on that baseline; you are paying attention, and you should proceed cautiously with that baseline in mind.

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You forgive people that betrayed you that easily and just let them back in like that? It's one thing to be positive and optimistic. It's another to be naive.

Yes, Yes I do. Naive implies you dont know. What im saying is that this isnt about being naive because the reasoning behind it doesnt matter

I forgive. Life's too short to hold all that betrayal, hatred, and cold in your heart.

At the end of the day its much harder to carry hate than to let things go. Things happen. **** happens. You forgive and move on. Doesnt menyou have to become buddy buddy but ****, let things go

Its easier that way. For me at least it is

Pretty much and add in the fact that she just survived breast cancer, which many women don't, there's really no reason she should be holding any grudges IMO.

Be blessed that you're still alive Shelley, be happy Kobe came down off his high horse and put the BS aside to show you some respect during your worst times.

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Or maybe dude saw someone that he had beef with going through real life situations and realized that there are things in life bigger than some words on a page and he just wanted to offer her some support in her fight. I highly doubt he needs anything from her. And with her talking **** after dude showed love, it just makes her seems bitter and small.

i bet bread she hugged him back.

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post #61938 of 93193
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Originally Posted by shoeking2102 View Post

Yes, Yes I do. Naive implies you dont know. What im saying is that this isnt about being naive because the reasoning behind it doesnt matter

I forgive. Life's too short to hold all that betrayal, hatred, and cold in your heart.

At the end of the day its much harder to carry hate than to let things go. Things happen. **** happens. You forgive and move on. Doesnt menyou have to become buddy buddy but ****, let things go

Its easier that way. For me at least it is

I don't really see anything in that quote that feels like "hate" or "cold" or close really.
post #61939 of 93193
Originally Posted by sea manup
Originally Posted by shoeking2102
Originally Posted by mgrand15

You forgive people that betrayed you that easily and just let them back in like that? It's one thing to be positive and optimistic. It's another to be naive.
Yes, Yes I do. Naive implies you dont know. What im saying is that this isnt about being naive because the reasoning behind it doesnt matter

I forgive. Life's too short to hold all that betrayal, hatred, and cold in your heart.

At the end of the day its much harder to carry hate than to let things go. Things happen. **** happens. You forgive and move on. Doesnt menyou have to become buddy buddy but ****, let things go

Its easier that way. For me at least it is

this is a solid post

 

spending time and energy hating people is a waste of time and energy 

Hating?

Who said anything about hating?

 

Shelley never said she hated Kobe.

 

Having reservations about someone based on who they have shown their self to be, that's not hate.

 

At all.

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Or maybe dude saw someone that he had beef with going through real life situations and realized that there are things in life bigger than some words on a page and he just wanted to offer her some support in her fight. I highly doubt he needs anything from her. And with her talking **** after dude showed love, it just makes her seems bitter and small.

i bet bread she hugged him back.

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Or maybe dude saw someone that he had beef with going through real life situations and realized that there are things in life bigger than some words on a page and he just wanted to offer her some support in her fight. I highly doubt he needs anything from her. And with her talking **** after dude showed love, it just makes her seems bitter and small.

i bet bread she hugged him back.

Why do I feel like if this story involved LeBron and not Kobe, your opinion would be totally different?
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You forgive people that betrayed you that easily and just let them back in like that? It's one thing to be positive and optimistic. It's another to be naive.

Yes, Yes I do. Naive implies you dont know. What im saying is that this isnt about being naive because the reasoning behind it doesnt matter

I forgive. Life's too short to hold all that betrayal, hatred, and cold in your heart.

At the end of the day its much harder to carry hate than to let things go. Things happen. **** happens. You forgive and move on. Doesnt menyou have to become buddy buddy but ****, let things go

Its easier that way. For me at least it is

this is a solid post

 

spending time and energy hating people is a waste of time and energy 

Hating?

Who said anything about hating?

 

Shelley never said she hated Kobe.

 

Having reservations about someone based on who they have shown their self to be, that's not hate.

 

At all.

shoeking was just speaking about people in general and not shelley

 

or so I thought

 

it does seem like she dislikes kobe though, not that there's anything wrong with that 

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post #61943 of 93193
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spending time and energy hating people is a waste of time and energy

Says the walking ball of negativity who spends every waking hour of every day crapping on every player in the league.
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Multiple souorces:

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@Chris_Broussard: Source: Miami Heat have emerged as the frontrunner to sign Joe Johnson. JJ feels he'd have a larger role & more meaningful minutes with Heat


So he doesn't want a chance to 'actually' win.
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Or maybe dude saw someone that he had beef with going through real life situations and realized that there are things in life bigger than some words on a page and he just wanted to offer her some support in her fight. I highly doubt he needs anything from her. And with her talking **** after dude showed love, it just makes her seems bitter and small.

i bet bread she hugged him back.

Why do I feel like if this story involved LeBron and not Kobe, your opinion would be totally different?

it wouldn't. wouldnt matter who it is, it was a good gesture regardless. bron, cp3, melo, any of those guys. Just like how I rock with and like certain posts made by f boys here, I do it in real life also. Even a garbage can gets a steak.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #61946 of 93193
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To build on this comment this isn't who Kobe has been for the last two decades. Can someone flip the switch and change on a dime or is there an ulterior motive? Kobe is in a tough spot(that he put himself in) with his behavior over the last twenty years. He hasn't needed the media as long as he could get on the floor and do something spectacular to make everyone look on in awe. Kobe wielded the power to make his own case by his phenomenal play. He can't do that anymore. Now others, including the media, will still have their say and he won't be able to make a rebuttal because Kobe was never anything more than an outstanding basketball player. Once you hang up the sneakers you are just left with what kind of man you are.

Not saying there is any way of knowing how things go for Kobe going forward or how he will be perceived/remembered, but less is in his hands than previously.

Maybe he becomes a great humanitarian and starts looking out for other people. Up to him.

But as it stands Smith has every right to question his motive. Either he was genuine and just has very suspicious timing or he's putting on an act. At the current time they look the same.

all that needs to be said. it doesnt sound like she hates kobe or was hating on kobe either. sound like shes just being real. something we know kobe is not anymore.  dude is fake af. 

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spending time and energy hating people is a waste of time and energy

Says the walking ball of negativity who spends every waking hour of every day crapping on every player in the league.

if i'm a walking ball of negativity it's probably unhealthy for you to follow me so closely 

 

you're like my brian windhorst :lol

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I don't follow you at all. I keep up with the thread and you have the second most posts in the thread. It's impossible not to notice.
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all that needs to be said. it doesnt sound like she hates kobe or was hating on kobe either. sound like shes just being real. something we know kobe is not anymore.  dude is fake af. 

finally.
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I don't follow you at all. I keep up with the thread and you have the second most posts in the thread. It's impossible not to notice.

then you should have learned to live with it by now, stop crying about it

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