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2015-2016 NBA Regular Season - MDA to HOU - All-NBA - Harden snubbed - Anthony Davis is broke
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It's not that simple.
Again free throw shooting is a skill. It may be an easier skill to most, but that's still relative and subjective.
By your logic, if everyone were to put the work in they would all be close to steph curry good from 3. I mean, all they have to do is get their weak ***** in the gym and practice right? If they aren't ******ed of course.
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No one's saying Rondo SHOULD be because Pekovic IS, but if there are multiple precedents (not just one) of non-shooters being good at FT's, you think they became good at shooting from that distance when not jumping (and terrible when jumping) due to uh luck? The contrast is too great to be anything other than practice/repetition.
It would be a fault in my logic if Pekovic was good at shooting from that distance in-game and I said, 'Well centers are traditionally bad a FT's and look he's good" while faulting Rondo because guards at traditonally good at FT's, but no, I'm using those two as examples to show what TWO bad in-game shooters can overcome at the line with repetition.
If you think Pekovic became that good at the FT line because uh, "good luck slid to him, and Rondo's that bad because the bad luck slid to him," then you're discounting the process of working on anything. Pekovic would shoot 10-20% from that range in-game, and then suddenly 80% when he doesn't jump from that range because of what?
I can bring up other examples to show you that multiple precedents doesn't equate to an outlier like whatever you're going on about
No one's alluding to this type of logic but you.
It would be a fault in my logic if Pekovic was good at shooting from that distance in-game and I said, 'Well centers are traditionally bad a FT's and look he's good" while faulting Rondo because guards at traditonally good at FT's, but no, I'm using those two as examples to show what TWO bad in-game shooters can overcome at the line with repetition.
If you think Pekovic became that good at the FT line because uh, "good luck slid to him, and Rondo's that bad because the bad luck slid to him," then you're discounting the process of working on anything. Pekovic would shoot 10-20% from that range in-game, and then suddenly 80% when he doesn't jump from that range because of what?
I can bring up other examples to show you that multiple precedents doesn't equate to an outlier like whatever you're going on about
No one's alluding to this type of logic but you.
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What difference does that make? I'm talking about players being held accountable for their own game. Could be one could be 100, you gotta be able to make a free throw at least half the time. Nobody is saying you have to be steph, just knock down 50% at the least. There's no excuse for that. MJ and Dr j had huge hands too. I've tried shooting tennis balls, mini bballs etc and it's not that damn hard imo
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I don't know man, I said this a few weeks ago.
If guys like Dwight, Deandre, Josh Smith, etc. are getting top of the line, all world assistance on their free throw shooting, and they stillll are bad, what is that saying? Are you saying these elite level coaches are flawed in their approach?
Don't say they don't work on it, because that's simply foolish.
If guys like Dwight, Deandre, Josh Smith, etc. are getting top of the line, all world assistance on their free throw shooting, and they stillll are bad, what is that saying? Are you saying these elite level coaches are flawed in their approach?
Don't say they don't work on it, because that's simply foolish.
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they bring up silly examples like Blake and Duncan . those dudes have a shot
It's not that simple.
Again free throw shooting is a skill. It may be an easier skill to most, but that's still relative and subjective.
By your logic, if everyone were to put the work in they would all be close to steph curry good from 3. I mean, all they have to do is get their weak ***** in the gym and practice right? If they aren't ******ed of course.
When you see DJ Howard or Drummond take a shot. Those dudes can't shoot period. It has nothing to do with how much practice you put in. Some people can and some can't. All the practice in the world ain't going to make much of a difference .
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Again, it's subjective.
Shooting a tennis ball, or whatever may not be hard to you but to someone else, it may be. And I have no idea what the hands argument is about, I never brought that up. It could be a variety of reasons why someone can't shoot free throws but, How good Dr J or MJ is at free throws with big hands has no bearing on any other player's ability to shoot free throws.
Also, it's impossible to replicate shooting free throws amidst 20k ppl in an arena. It's easier for some, than others.
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It's not like Hack-A-Shaq was a forecast for these "elite-level coaches" ... the Hack-A-DeAndre regularity and others has been in the past year. No one saw a day coming where this would be rampant league-wide just to gain an edge. It happened with Shaq and then 15 years later where we are now, you act like they should've seen it coming when most people in this thread had their attention seized in the offseasons by Dwight working with Hakeem in private sessions (no one anywhere was saying 'You know, he should be working on those FT's instead, because in 6 years the Hack-A-____ bit is going to become big). No, this is new to everyone in its degree of frequency.
Not like Shaq was a predictive model if the regularity didn't come until 15 years after, just saying.
Not like Shaq was a predictive model if the regularity didn't come until 15 years after, just saying.
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It may make a difference, but probably a minor one.
The way I see free throw shooting, is like the way I see other skills in basketball. Some people just won't be good at them.
Kind of like...you can practice jumping all you want, you probably won't be able to jump as high as a Nate Robinson.
I think what's going on here is, people are undervaluing the skill of free throw shooting just because a lot of players are good at it. Not realizing that each player is independent of each other
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Let's use a different analogy like school instead. In a class everyone has different potential. The smartest kid has greater ability than the dumbest but there's no reason one passes with a 92% and the other can't even get a regular F. Like we're not asking you to be valedictorian, we just want you to be a standard 52-58% dummy instead of a 45% dummy and we'll let you slide.
And in deandre's case seeing he has damn near no skills whatsoever I would think he doesn't take his game all that serious. He also seems to be a little bit on the dumb side but that's neither here or there
And in deandre's case seeing he has damn near no skills whatsoever I would think he doesn't take his game all that serious. He also seems to be a little bit on the dumb side but that's neither here or there
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Im trying to figure out why any of you would want a flopping choker who can't do anything but dunk on your team?
Amirite?
Amirite?
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go to your room and think about those missed free throws!
the hacking will stop, once you make enough for the opponent to not do it. their not asking their players to perform surgery.
go to your room and think about those missed free throws!
the hacking will stop, once you make enough for the opponent to not do it. their not asking their players to perform surgery.
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thats a bad example. i took algebra 3 times and had a personal tutor the whole time. i tried really hard , did my best and still couldnt pass . some people can and some people cant.
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thats a good deal for all teams involved.
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I feel like people don't understand that shooting 1000 FTs in practice is totally different than shooting in game situations. It's not easy to replicate and it's incredibly hard to stay consistent with your form when fatigued if you don't have that muscle memory.
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thats a good deal for all teams involved.
Not for the Clippers. Hell nah
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lol they get super soft in the middle . but still not to bad for all teams involved.
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thats a good deal for all teams involved.
Yea this is the first trade I've seen in a long time that would benefit all sides instead of poaching another team. I'm truly shocked
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so , just cause something is easy for you doesnt mean other people dont struggle with it no matter how hard they try. thats what these guys arguing about free throws cant comprehend. the same way i couldnt comprehend algebra no matter how much work i put in.Algebra?
Goddamn.. That's such basic math though
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so , just cause something is easy for you doesnt mean other people dont struggle with it no matter how hard they try. thats what these guys arguing about free throws cant comprehend. the same way i couldnt comprehend algebra.Algebra?
Goddamn.. That's such basic math though
I'm just confused cause I took algebra in 8th grade.
I guess though man.
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