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post #64891 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius View Post

Freeze is the homie but for real... LeBron has no skill? Really, he can't dribble? What about his passing ability? His court vision?


My fellow Laker fans. mean.giflaugh.gif
Passing is his only above average skill,maybe rebounding but then again his size and athletic plays a big part in that like most dudes. Dribbling is below average, shooting is, well u know. Now his passing is amazing I'll give him that, amazes me sometimes.
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post #64892 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh View Post

no you have to shoot 3's. Shooting 32% from 3 is good enough to justify letting them fly. is that learning to play basketball?

This is way overblown. Yeah you need shooting but when you're just shooting 3s for the sake of shooting them, you're gonna struggle. The Wizards had Kris Humphries try to execute this strategy early in the year. It was dumb.

The Spur starting bigs could easily shoot 34% from 3 (or whatever the magic number is to analytically justify it) yet they have a combined 0 made for the season.

Upping the pace and chucking 3s is an easy way to run your offense. Doesn't mean it'll be successful. More importantly, it's not the only way to run the offense.
post #64893 of 93193
I really dislike this "you can't win with these guys." I get it. I really do. I just don't like it.

Last week I saw Brook Lopez obliterate Portland and everyone wants him and guys like him euthanized.
post #64894 of 93193

Adapt or be left behind that's how I feel about it

BROOKLYN BORN

BRONX RAISED

HARLEM EDUCATED

 

"Blue and orange everything, clearly what I'm repping

and the pressure that come with it like I'm wearing number 7"

BROOKLYN BORN

BRONX RAISED

HARLEM EDUCATED

 

"Blue and orange everything, clearly what I'm repping

and the pressure that come with it like I'm wearing number 7"

post #64895 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Freeze View Post

the game is constantly changing. Used to be a big mans game. Then a dunkers game. then big men again. then guard game. now pg and 3 point shooter game. Give it time. It'll change again. There's no rule, the game changes with the talent of the personnel.

You are being way too optimistic.

the math is obvious there is basically one way to play that maximizes expected value. that not like it was before, even if it was a big man league, there was more varitey in the offense and personel in the 80's.

but now. spread pick and roll with 4 shooters.


its only going to become worse as the teams become smarter, and the incentives for young players become stronger.
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post #64896 of 93193
A player like Steph you can't guard effectively because if he starts missing the refs gonna assume you fouled him, LOL
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post #64897 of 93193

So why is Bennett about to be on his way out of the NBA for good? 

post #64898 of 93193

Wait did somebody call for a wider court and changing of three point lines to benefit Simmons, like, a dude that isn't even in the NBA yet...?

Thats enough NBA thread on Niketalk for today.

post #64899 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Abematic View Post

So why is Bennett about to be on his way out of the NBA for good? 
Cause he got waived for Jason frickin Thompson. And if your hometown team doesn't think you are good enough idk what team else will pick him up.

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post #64900 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh View Post

1. trust I know about Simmons limitations, i've been arguing in the draft rhead all year.

2. Simmons can't protect the rim, you aren't winning anything with simmons at 5.

3. you think its good that AD is shooting 3's now? You think thsts the best use of his legth, athleticism, talent?

4. The Blake Deandre is my point, the thing is a struggle, and bogs down all the time in the playoffs. and they run better without blake.

1. Simmons next to a stretch 5 really shouldn't be a problem. Hell most likely be fine as long as he stops being 100% afraid of jumpshots.

2. Blame the management/coaching staff for AD shooting 3s. How many shooters has NO had in the last 2 years? Last year he had a monster year. I don't think anyone complained about his lack of 3s.

3. It's a struggle that still gets them to the top of the conference. The spacing does get tight when playoff teams can prepare but it happens to basically all teams. How much of their losing can you blame on that vs. FT shooting/poor crunch time decision making/CP3 vs Blake dynamic?

I think you're overreacting to some of the league overreacting laugh.gif
post #64901 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Freeze View Post

the game is constantly changing. Used to be a big mans game. Then a dunkers game. then big men again. then guard game. now pg and 3 point shooter game. Give it time. It'll change again. There's no rule, the game changes with the talent of the personnel.
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post #64902 of 93193
Bron pre hair bonnet was thr best. Hes too gifted to not have skill. But he has no suave or finesse. Think shaqish.

IQ wise? Like I said, wait till he ages and see if he finds thr epiphany of evolving his game.

Dude still craddles the ball like Ladanian Thomlinson during street ball and drives hard. Dude just jumps to out jump. But for him to see the plays like Nash and Kidd? No way.
post #64903 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh View Post

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Originally Posted by Freeze View Post

the game is constantly changing. Used to be a big mans game. Then a dunkers game. then big men again. then guard game. now pg and 3 point shooter game. Give it time. It'll change again. There's no rule, the game changes with the talent of the personnel.

You are being way too optimistic.

the math is obvious there is basically one way to play that maximizes expected value. that not like it was before, even if it was a big man league, there was more varitey in the offense and personel in the 80's.

but now. spread pick and roll with 4 shooters.


its only going to become worse as the teams become smarter, and the incentives for young players become stronger.

bro up until last season the narrative was 'jump shooting teams don't win championships'. up until then it was believe you needed a presence in the paint to be effective. Things change. It will change solely because teams may not be able to match finding 3 point shooters so they'll have to find other ways to be effective. Things change all of the time, even if it is subtle. Just look at the discussion we're having now. The game moved towards a 3 point shooting front because better shooters came in the league and coaches started utilizing the more in the offense. But it can only continue that way if the pool of talent is the same in the future. Amazing 3 point shooters dont grow on trees. You have decent good and great. Then you have subcategories, like shooters that can pull off the dribble or if they just have set shots. Variety will come back around.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #64904 of 93193
I'm not for any rule change that would benefit ppl who can't shoot. That's jut crazy talk.
post #64905 of 93193
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Originally Posted by mgrand15 View Post

This is way overblown. Yeah you need shooting but when you're just shooting 3s for the sake of shooting them, you're gonna struggle. The Wizards had Kris Humphries try to execute this strategy early in the year. It was dumb.

The Spur starting bigs could easily shoot 34% from 3 (or whatever the magic number is to analytically justify it) yet they have a combined 0 made for the season.

Upping the pace and chucking 3s is an easy way to run your offense. Doesn't mean it'll be successful. More importantly, it's not the only way to run the offense.

what? its not overblown at all. the percentage from shots taken is rising.

the amount of 3 pointers made highly correlates to winning overall.

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the spurs are a poor example and serve qas an exception that proves rule.

1. Lamarcus Aldridge is an outlier 2pt jumpshooter. for 99% of NBA player, shooting 33% is better than shooting 2's.

2. Spurs are running a historic defense and is insanley effective at suppresses three point attempts, so the spurs don't have tos hoot as many to keep up.
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post #64906 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Freeze View Post

bro up until last season the narrative was 'jump shooting teams don't win championships'. up until then it was believe you needed a presence in the paint to be effective. Things change. It will change solely because teams may not be able to match finding 3 point shooters so they'll have to find other ways to be effective. Things change all of the time, even if it is subtle. Just look at the discussion we're having now. The game moved towards a 3 point shooting front because better shooters came in the league and coaches started utilizing the more in the offense. But it can only continue that way if the pool of talent is the same in the future. Amazing 3 point shooters dont grow on trees. You have decent good and great. Then you have subcategories, like shooters that can pull off the dribble or if they just have set shots. Variety will come back around.

that was always said by dumb people, the past like 6 champions were like top 3 % of attempts from 3. laugh.gif


3 point shooting has improved steadily over time, unless the entire us population contracts the Zika virus it wont stop.
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post #64907 of 93193
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Originally Posted by amel223 View Post

I'm not for any rule change that would benefit ppl who can't shoot. That's just crazy talk.


Right? Let's just eliminate reach-in fouls and dribbling while we're at it :rollin

post #64908 of 93193
Just now hearing Kyrie hasnt wanted to be in Cleveland for months... he shoulda tried to get that trade then. CP3 for Irving woulda been interesting for both teams.
post #64909 of 93193
I mean I don't think it's as simple as 'if you can't shoot 3s, you can't play'

Lol D Rose can't shoot a 3 to save his life and there's definitely a place in the nba for him, provided he's healthy enough to play of course
post #64910 of 93193
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Originally Posted by HTG Designs View Post

Just now hearing Kyrie hasnt wanted to be in Cleveland for months... he shoulda tried to get that trade then. CP3 for Irving woulda been interesting for both teams.

exactly dude should've spoke up. that chemistry is gonna be ultra dead now.


can't wait for the game tonight.

cavs/pacers. leggggoooooooo

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #64911 of 93193
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Originally Posted by amel223 View Post

I'm not for any rule change that would benefit ppl who can't shoot. That's jut crazy talk.

you could just as easily aregue that the 3 point line benifits people who suck at everything other than shooting.
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post #64912 of 93193
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Originally Posted by amel223 View Post

I mean I don't think it's as simple as 'if you can't shoot 3s, you can't play'

Lol D Rose can't shoot a 3 to save his life and there's definitely a place in the nba for him, provided he's healthy enough to play of course

dwade too. bron too..unfortunately.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #64913 of 93193
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Originally Posted by amel223 View Post

I mean I don't think it's as simple as 'if you can't shoot 3s, you can't play'

Lol D Rose can't shoot a 3 to save his life and there's definitely a place in the nba for him, provided he's healthy enough to play of course

what? laugh.gif

hes got a sub 500 ts% and there might not be a place for him aftger than max deal is over.
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post #64914 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius View Post


Alright so this is your explanation and it still sounds like reaching.

LeBron's offensive game has improved over the last 5-6 years. The way you put it was like he's Dwight and his game has been stagnant.

LeBron this year has regressed significantly. No consistent jumper, less left handed drives.. post up game is weak.

post #64915 of 93193
Lol I'm sure if you check out his stats after he took off his mask you would see his percentages are better than that

D Rose has been balling since mid December
post #64916 of 93193
curry (ankle) questionable vs hawks tomorrow

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #64917 of 93193
right now it is objectively smarter to play jared dudley at PF who is average to poor at everyting. passing, rebounding, ball handling. defense.



than it is to have TJ Warren, or Josh Smith or, guys who are better than Dudley at everything other than shootin

and dudley is a meh shooter.


is that good for Bball? you have to ask the question.
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post #64918 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Addict4Sneakers View Post

I really dislike this "you can't win with these guys." I get it. I really do. I just don't like it.

Last week I saw Brook Lopez obliterate Portland and everyone wants him and guys like him euthanized.

And they were never in the game.

I hate seeing bugs becoming obsolete what he's saying does have some merit.
post #64919 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh View Post

right now it is objectively smarter to play jared dudley at PF who is average to poor at everyting. passing, rebounding, ball handling. defense.



than it is to have TJ Warren, or Josh Smith or, guys who are better than Dudley at everything other than shootin

and dudley is a meh shooter.


is that good for Bball? you have to ask the question.

Last year he shot 39% from 3, this year he's at 45%. Meh shooter is a stretch to say the least.

He's not GREAT at anything else but he doesn't make mistakes and he moves the ball. Guys like that have always been playable.

TJ Warren is a young dude who's been behind a bunch of wings on a mess of a team. Don't know why it's a huge shock he doesn't have a niche yet.

If he could score at decent efficiency with decent volume, he has a spot in the league whether he can shoot 3s or not. Plenty of guards fit that bill.
post #64920 of 93193
so this dude wants to change the rules so we can see more of tj warren, josh smith and player still in college? FOH b.
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