Great for Houston, but Dwight ain't trying to play the gritty Chicago defense they've been known for the last few years.
Not sure if posted but TWolves fans may get their wish
Tom Thibodeau, Timberwolves make 'contact'
http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/7/71/1319825/report-tom-thibodeau-timberwolves-contact
If I'm Thibs I'm taking the Minny job over NY, it's not even close.
This has been visited several times over the past month. I've already talked about why he's regressed.
@CP1708
be honest bro how many Wolves games have you caught this year and last
I've watched damb near all of them.. I am a big Wiggins fan, I just don't see him being much more than a good scorer.. that's not even a knock on him. He's not going to magically become someone who can create for others.. he has the ball in his hands A LOT no reason he can't at least get 3 a game. Don't get me started with his rebounding.
He's a kill only player, ain't eem mad. I just don't see a superstar. But that's just my opinion.
Probably a dozen or so last year, maybe 15-20 so far this year.
And I don’t have any issue with the kid.
You guys wanna use stats and shooting percentages, and pi squared divided by 16 footers, that’s all glorious, but that doesn’t tell you jack **** about what he’s asked to do.
You, nor I, knows what Sam Mitchell asks him to do. Or what they practice, and tell him they want from him. Or Rubio. Or Towns, etc. Maybe they want him ISO’ing all the time. Maybe they want him to focus on scoring, now, and later on down the line they will ask him to distribute, once the double/triple teams start coming.
Maybe “regress” is just for lack of a better term or something, and not really indicative of how he’s actually growing in his own game. Which you can’t put a damn stat on. Kobe’s 3 point shooting got worse his first 3 years. Then it leveled off again 2 years later. In his SEVENTH year, he jumped big time with his long range shooting. Both in volume, and accuracy. Seven. Years. He added a nice weapon to his arsenal. Thru work. Wiggins, from what I can tell, will work. As hard as Kobe? I dunno, none of us do, maybe he’ll work even harder. Kobe wasn’t locking anyone down in 96-97-98-99, and then suddenly he started working on defense over the all-star break with Payton and suddenly he started to become proficient at it. Within a year he was really good.
Magic in the late 80’s would come back each year with a new skill, or much improved one. Be it simple things like free throws, or adding the 3 to his game.
I would think a Timberwolve fanbase would remember KG in year 1-2 wasn’t much, and 2-3 years later, boom. I guess if it were today, February of KG’s second year, we’d be saying KG hit his peak, he’s just a nice talented player, never gonna be much more than an ok scorer, or decent rebounder, blah blah blah.
Wiggins may just be focused on scoring this year. Maybe next year he’ll focus on passing out of double teams. The year after defense. Year after that, 3 ball. The next year rebounding better. It’s adding to your game as you go along. Age 20-21-22-23 etc. It’s what the coaching staff asks him to work on, and improve on. You don’t just go into an offseason and say focus on improving everything. You focus on an area and work on that area, year after year. Add it to your repertoire. To already be calling him Rudy Gay, or DeMar DeRozan (is DeMar not having a career best year, now, years into his career?) Players add to their game, it takes time, it takes work, it takes years. It doesn’t just show up on basketball reference the day he starts working on it.
You guys wanna run around and call him regressed, and lower his ceiling, and he’s Rudy G 2.0, go on ahead. I see a talented as hell kid learning on the fly and now adding another super baby to his team to work and grow with. If he has the hunger in him to be in the gym non-stop during the off-season, he’ll be just fine. And you guys and your readymade labels will look absolutely foolish. If he doesn’t work like that, and just wants to gun and no coach(es) will get thru to him, then I’ll look foolish.
TY
Regression is the most misused word when it comes to young athletes like this. I use the example with young quarterbacks all the time, but when you see a guy struggle in years 2 and/or 3, it is not always that the player get worse. Stats may "regress," but when you start asking a quarterback to read certain things in a defense, call his own plays, run check with me's at the line and overall take on a heavier and different load, it takes time and slows the instincts as there is more thinking involved as practice starts to get implemented in gametime action. To what CP said, we have no idea what Wiggins is really being told and what he's trying to implement in year two, let alone all the other factors that come along with his circumstance. I would chill and wait a few more years. Regression talk in year 2 makes little sense. You aren't more polished as a rookie and that's in almost every case.
ya never fail NTNBA Thread, "Wiggins has regressed" give me a break.
Shoeking don't waste your time bruh they ain't getting it b
Thibs to da wolves
This I can roll with. Wiggins is still doing some damn nice things for this crap team.
And as a Timberwolves fan when he was first drafted if you would have told me he'd be a 21 PPG scorer by year two (and nothing else) I would have said sign me up.
By the way, Let me get this off...Ok, I'll go off your basis.
He's playing 1 minute less per game. His rebounds per game are down .8. Did Minny happen to add a pretty good rebounder to the team?
His assists per game are down by .3
His steals are down by .2
Again, in 1 fewer minute on average, per game. Kinda explainable, no? .8, .3, .2 are all kinda marginal differences.
His scoring is up. His PER is up. His overall FG% is up. His TS% is up. His shooting %'s from 3-10 feet are up, his shooting %'s from 10-16 feet are up, his shooting %'s from 16<3 are up. Only his shooting %'s from 3 are down.
At age 20.
THAT'S regression?
I mean, the team is 59-208 since he bailed.
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I mean, the team is 59-208 since he bailed.
and he's on the trading block.. We wouldn't be contending with him .I mean, the team is 59-208 since he bailed.
Probably not, but he would have made the team better in any case.I mean, the team is 59-208 since he bailed.
does +20 more wins really make a difference?
He also helped the Rockets get to the WCFs nine months ago.and he's on the trading block.. We wouldn't be contending with him .I mean, the team is 59-208 since he bailed.
So you your saying you wish he would've stayed with the Lakers?
