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I don't even get how what Lebron said about his teammates having little playoff experience is even a big deal. Is he wrong? Jesus man this dude can't say anything without it getting taken the wrong way.
Telling the media that his teammates who are professional basketball players have never played meaningful basketball in their lives is incredibly disrespectful and a sign of awful leadership
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when its crunch time it doesnt work. they cant win a chip. they take turns playing iso ball. kds favorite shot is a iso 3 when push comes to shove. people blame it on the coaching but its not the coaching. 

the warriors don't play iso ball. they have a competent coach/system and some good role players that are coached to their strengths, and KD would just be another high IQ player added to the mix. Your options would be unlimited.

btw., klay can kick rocks/get released for all i care tbh laugh.gif
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Rockets signed Beasley :rollin Yall desperate 

BROOKLYN BORN

BRONX RAISED

HARLEM EDUCATED

 

"Blue and orange everything, clearly what I'm repping

and the pressure that come with it like I'm wearing number 7"

BROOKLYN BORN

BRONX RAISED

HARLEM EDUCATED

 

"Blue and orange everything, clearly what I'm repping

and the pressure that come with it like I'm wearing number 7"

post #66694 of 93193
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Kevin Durant isn't James Harden. He's not ball dominant. KD is one of the top 3 players in the League. You plug him in ANYWHERE, and it's a success.

The thing about KD that people seem to forget is that he's not a ball dominant player. He can get his at anytime without dominating the ball.

GSW offense is actually perfect for KD. KD from a few years ago was one for the most assisted players in the L. He can score off of pin downs, curls, fast break...etc.

A 1/3 P&R with Steph & KD.....and Klay on the weak side with Dray as an outlet is an absolute nightmare sick.gif. Pick your poison. Not to even mention the potential "death lineup".

Honestly, it wouldn't be fair if KD went to the Warriors. I'm hoping it doesn't happen...but if it does....we can only pray.

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who takes the last shot to win the game for gs if kd goes there?
this is currys team. 

thats what I'm saying. That's the issue when you have multiple stars. They all want the last shot. Soon as someone misses, animosity rares its ugly head. the other star thinks to themselves ' i wish this ***** would pass the ball sometimes, i'd make that ****.'

just think to miami's first year and how lebrons nuts hadn't fallen yet and all those missed opportunities he bricked. Then dwade said he'd be the closer 'for obvious reasons'

That's the only rough part of having multiple superstar closers on the same squad. Hell, that's one of the issues with okc every single night. last night was a prime example.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #66696 of 93193
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Originally Posted by ShotsRangOut View Post

I don't even get how what Lebron said about his teammates having little playoff experience is even a big deal. Is he wrong? Jesus man this dude can't say anything without it getting taken the wrong way.
Telling the media that his teammates who are professional basketball players have never played meaningful basketball in their lives is incredibly disrespectful and a sign of awful leadership
Well to be fair he said they haven't played much meaningful basketball not never. But that's true that can come off as disrespectful.
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his teammates should mention his god awful shooting percentage , how bad of a shooter lj is and how he is a bad leader. it wouldnt come off disrespectful right ?  . they would just be saying the truth. 

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thats what I'm saying. That's the issue when you have multiple stars. They all want the last shot. Soon as someone misses, animosity rares its ugly head. the other star thinks to themselves ' i wish this ***** would pass the ball sometimes, i'd make that ****.'

just think to miami's first year and how lebrons nuts hadn't fallen yet and all those missed opportunities he bricked. Then dwade said he'd be the closer 'for obvious reasons'

That's the only rough part of having multiple superstar closers on the same squad. Hell, that's one of the issues with okc every single night. last night was a prime example.

stop being logical. we dont need logic on NT. 

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Heck I might even start him at the 5 full time.
roll.gif KD is bbq chicken at the 5
it's been a few times we thought that would be the case and he more than held his own, like against Marc Gasol who couldn't so anything against his length. And then ultimately, they have to guard him too
post #66700 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Freeze View Post

thats what I'm saying. That's the issue when you have multiple stars. They all want the last shot. Soon as someone misses, animosity rares its ugly head. the other star thinks to themselves ' i wish this ***** would pass the ball sometimes, i'd make that ****.'

just think to miami's first year and how lebrons nuts hadn't fallen yet and all those missed opportunities he bricked. Then dwade said he'd be the closer 'for obvious reasons'

That's the only rough part of having multiple superstar closers on the same squad. Hell, that's one of the issues with okc every single night. last night was a prime example.

Maybe when you're dealing with ball hogs like Kobe but Steph, Klay and KD could careless who gets the last shot. They've always been unselfish. It'll just come down to whoever has the best matchup or has the best night. Hell, if they could keep Iggy, HE'D even be in line to take the last shot. He's hit PLENTY for the Warriors already.
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when its crunch time it doesnt work. they cant win a chip. they take turns playing iso ball. kds favorite shot is a iso 3 when push comes to shove. people blame it on the coaching but its not the coaching. 

You can't be THIS dense man. You really can't laugh.gif.

Firstly, we're talking about KD on the Warriors. The most fluid offense in the NBA. He would get much better shots there.

Secondly....ISO 3's for KD and Steph in the clutch...are good shots. You don't have to draw up some fancy plays when you have talent like that. Unique players that can pull up from 25ft and have a 40% chance of going in.

Thirdly...I want to REALLY drive this point home for some of you hot take bball fans. The Thunder not winning a chip has nothing to do with KD, Russ of Scott Brooks. They've been the 3rd best team in the NBA for the last few years. 4th after the Warriors rise last year. Injuries. Playing in a FINALS against 3 top 10 players at the time (Bron, Wade, Bosh)....not to mention inexperience has kept this team from "winning ish" as you hot take people call it. Heat, Spurs, Warriors were just better...or healthier. It's really that simple.

Lastly, Kevin Durant works ANYWHERE. Case closed.
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thats what I'm saying. That's the issue when you have multiple stars. They all want the last shot. Soon as someone misses, animosity rares its ugly head. the other star thinks to themselves ' i wish this ***** would pass the ball sometimes, i'd make that ****.'

just think to miami's first year and how lebrons nuts hadn't fallen yet and all those missed opportunities he bricked. Then dwade said he'd be the closer 'for obvious reasons'

That's the only rough part of having multiple superstar closers on the same squad. Hell, that's one of the issues with okc every single night. last night was a prime example.

There are no Lebrons on this (theoretical) GSW team. Two wet scorers who can also create/distribute. There are no RWB's on this (theoretical) GSW team either. Just wet shooting and high IQ basketball. KD/Steph will give the ball to whoever it makes sense to based on how teams play them. Not hard to do that when both your outlets are two of your top shooters in the league.

If you guys come up with another apples/apples comparison I'll hear it out, but it sounds mostly like apples/oranges
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Gs would skate to the finals with kd. This is crazy talk
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thats what I'm saying. That's the issue when you have multiple stars. They all want the last shot. Soon as someone misses, animosity rares its ugly head. the other star thinks to themselves ' i wish this ***** would pass the ball sometimes, i'd make that ****.'

just think to miami's first year and how lebrons nuts hadn't fallen yet and all those missed opportunities he bricked. Then dwade said he'd be the closer 'for obvious reasons'

That's the only rough part of having multiple superstar closers on the same squad. Hell, that's one of the issues with okc every single night. last night was a prime example.

It's incredible that some of you refuse to believe that there are unselfish basketball players that exist. You're also ignoring the big picture and focusing on your argument on trivial **** like "who takes the last shot". Who ******* cares? You run the best play and make the best decision. The way some of y'all view basketball in these "who's the man" situations is mind boggling.

The Spurs have had three hall of famers leading them to the best records in sports period for the past decade and some. How many times have they clashed over who takes the last shot?

And technically here...we're talking about two "superstars". Klay and dray aren't superstars.
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who takes the last shot to win the game for gs if kd goes there?

KD don't even take the last shot at OKC now laugh.gif
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The GS vs ATL game 2 nights ago would also be another reason GS would welcome Durant. There have been times this season where when curry is out of the line up or taking a breather, GS let's a team back in or has a difficult time finding a scorer, or where the ball doesn't move as fluidly. You might say klay is that guy, but I see klay more of a shooter than a go to guy. He doesn't really create his own offense as he is more of a catch and shoot scorer. KD would rid that weakness with the dubs by always having a scorer on the floor.
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And technically here...we're talking about two "superstars". Klay and dray aren't superstars.

Exactly. Dry mouth knows his role and klay flat out said he doesn't want to be the man. KD passes up good looks to swing the ball to randy foye and dion waiters. It would be a perfect fit
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Dudes in here talking about "who would take the last shot" like this is 2003 and Tmac and Kobe are potentially playing together laugh.gif.

We're literally coming off a finals where IGGY was the MVP. The other night, Steph was red hot and kicked it to the corner for Klay to hit a huge 3. The same game where Draymond was upset about his role, but still contributed big time.

Everybody isn't wired in this mythical tired "my team" narrative from the ISO ball era that you dudes won't seem to let go. Bron and Wade won two chips just a few years ago. How quickly we forget.
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post #66709 of 93193
What 5s in the league are major scoring threats anyways? Then of them, who even plays in post? DMC for example lives off face up midrange and is a 40% shooter. You want to force feed Howard in the post instead of Harden doing his thing? Fine, I'll call that a win and I'm helping off of Josh Smith. Ditto DAJ. LMA is shooting 20 footers all day. So is Horford if he's not in the training room

You'd really just have to get him help on the d boards against some of those guys
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The GS vs ATL game 2 nights ago would also be another reason GS would welcome Durant. There have been times this season where when curry is out of the line up or taking a breather, GS let's a team back in or has a difficult time finding a scorer, or where the ball doesn't move as fluidly. You might say klay is that guy, but I see klay more of a shooter than a go to guy. He doesn't really create his own offense as he is more of a catch and shoot scorer. KD would rid that weakness with the dubs by always having a scorer on the floor.

YEP!

You're spot on with this assessment. Klay is definitely more a Ray Allen type player. While they can create their own shot here and there, it's not as efficient and they're better at running off screens and being catch and shoot players. When Steph wasn't playing that night, it was tough watching them in certain stretches. KD could definitely help that out.
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If that were the case...don't you think that would prevent him from going there in the first place? He would be SIGNING there...making the choice to go there. I'd like to think common sense says that if he made a conscious decision to join that team...that he understands things would be different.

Like I said, you can tell yourself I'm not gonna have a problem being the 2nd or 3rd option. But when the game is on the line and you're the 4th option how are you gonna feel? Not saying Durant would do that but egos are real. You can't just ignore human nature when putting a team together.

Just look at how much Lebron and Dwade struggled to figure out who was the alpha and they were damn near best friends.
"A battle of wits...with me? That's not what you want..."

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post #66712 of 93193
Right. Is he a beta or not?

He's a beta on a team with Westbrook but if you put him golden state now we're worried about their being too many alphas?

Pick one
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Gs would skate to the finals with kd. This is crazy talk

They're only on pace to win 73 games without KD
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It would be kd/steph with elite coaching/role players compared to kd/russ with scrubs and scrub coaching. C'mon now
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Like I said, you can tell yourself I'm not gonna have a problem being the 2nd or 3rd option. But when the game is on the line and you're the 4th option how are you gonna feel? Not saying Durant would do that but egos are real. You can't just ignore human nature when putting a team together.

Just look at how much Lebron and Dwade struggled to figure out who was the alpha and they were damn near best friends.

I must have missed that struggle because anyone with two eyes can see that Bron was the primary weapon from day one until he left.
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I saw Steph kick it to Dray who kicked it to Barnes open at 3 against the 76ers a few weeks back to win the game. These guys care abut the best look, not who's the best player.
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Like I said, you can tell yourself I'm not gonna have a problem being the 2nd or 3rd option. But when the game is on the line and you're the 4th option how are you gonna feel? Not saying Durant would do that but egos are real. You can't just ignore human nature when putting a team together.

Just look at how much Lebron and Dwade struggled to figure out who was the alpha and they were damn near best friends.

yeah , players care about stats and have big egos . stop comparing the spurs, duncan did other things besides score.. they think kd going to take chris bosh role. it doesnt work like that. 

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I must have missed that struggle because anyone with two eyes can see that Bron was the primary weapon from day one until he left.

nope. wade said he would be the 2nd option after that finals loss against the mavs. wade and him struggled until that decision. wade was the main dude lebrons first year with the heat. you wrong on that one homie. 

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Like I said, you can tell yourself I'm not gonna have a problem being the 2nd or 3rd option. But when the game is on the line and you're the 4th option how are you gonna feel? Not saying Durant would do that but egos are real. You can't just ignore human nature when putting a team together.

Just look at how much Lebron and Dwade struggled to figure out who was the alpha and they were damn near best friends.

I must have missed that struggle because anyone with two eyes can see that Bron was the primary weapon from day one until he left.

except the first year in crunch time/clutch moments. That was dwade time. bron missed hella gamewinners that season.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

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It's incredible that some of you refuse to believe that there are unselfish basketball players that exist. You're also ignoring the big picture and focusing on your argument on trivial **** like "who takes the last shot". Who ******* cares? You run the best play and make the best decision. The way some of y'all view basketball in these "who's the man" situations is mind boggling.

The Spurs have had three hall of famers leading them to the best records in sports period for the past decade and some. How many times have they clashed over who takes the last shot?

And technically here...we're talking about two "superstars". Klay and dray aren't superstars.

Exactly. laugh.gif

"Who takes the last shot" is really what the concern is here?
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