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post #66721 of 93193
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Originally Posted by Freeze View Post

except the first year in crunch time/clutch moments. That was dwade time. bron missed hella gamewinners that season.

You're suffering from revisionist history

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post #66722 of 93193

it aint happening either way. no way in hell kd goes to gs. its nice to talk about though. i do think it could work  now though. some of you make some good points. kd isnt a ball dominant scorer. 

post #66723 of 93193
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Kevin Durant isn't James Harden. He's not ball dominant. KD is one of the top 3 players in the League. You plug him in ANYWHERE, and it's a success.

The thing about KD that people seem to forget is that he's not a ball dominant player. He can get his at anytime without dominating the ball.

GSW offense is actually perfect for KD. KD from a few years ago was one for the most assisted players in the L. He can score off of pin downs, curls, fast break...etc.

A 1/3 P&R with Steph & KD.....and Klay on the weak side with Dray as an outlet is an absolute nightmare sick.gif. Pick your poison. Not to even mention the potential "death lineup".

Honestly, it wouldn't be fair if KD went to the Warriors. I'm hoping it doesn't happen...but if it does....we can only pray.


I do believe he would much prefer to play in a system. That's why I think he would fit perfectly in ATL, TOR, or BOS.

I hope it happens!
post #66724 of 93193
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Originally Posted by lakersman3000 View Post

it aint happening either way. no way in hell kd goes to gs. its nice to talk about though. 

^^^ at least you can admit you're wrong in a round about way.

Can't believe dudes in here are really talking about "who takes the last shot"....with the Warriors mean.giflaugh.gif
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post #66725 of 93193
laugh.gif you can carve a stat for anything you want. Way too many factors to actually be considered.



Anybody who watched them play and tries to deny the cape DWade has put on over the years is bogus/lying to themselves.

I remember those games against SAS where Wade put on the cape, and Bron came through off Wade's sauce and started hitting shots. FInished with a "better" statline, but it was obvious these cats were getting bounced without Wade's performance
post #66726 of 93193
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^^^ at least you can admit you're wrong in a round about way.

Can't believe dudes in here are really talking about "who takes the last shot"....with the Warriors mean.giflaugh.gif

edited my post. when people make good points i have no problem changing my mind. 

post #66727 of 93193
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edited my post. when people make good points i have no problem changing my mind. 

Respect
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post #66728 of 93193
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Originally Posted by FACTS View Post

I must have missed that struggle because anyone with two eyes can see that Bron was the primary weapon from day one until he left.

Yep...you missed it. You could see it on court and Dwade has openly discussed it. They would defer to each other so much the offense would break down. Dwade took the back seat after that loss to the Mavericks and it took off from there.
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post #66729 of 93193
Lawson to the pacers?
post #66730 of 93193
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laugh.gif you can carve a stat for anything you want. Way too many factors to actually be considered.



Anybody who watched them play and tries to deny the cape DWade has put on over the years is bogus/lying to themselves.

I remember those games against SAS where Wade put on the cape, and Bron came through off Wade's sauce and started hitting shots. FInished with a "better" statline, but it was obvious these cats were getting bounced without Wade's performance

The numbers say that Lebron not only attempted more game winners but made more too. I don't know how much carving is needed there. That's just a black and white truth
post #66731 of 93193
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Lawson to the pacers?
Surprised any team wants him. Should just rest and go to Europe in the offseason.
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Surprised any team wants him. Should just rest and go to Europe in the offseason.

NOOO!!!! Don't go over there messing up my boy Have It All's play.
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I do believe he would much prefer to play in a system. That's why I think he would fit perfectly in ATL, TOR, or BOS.

I hope it happens!

I still say Ujiri is plotting on Durant. If they move around enough salary to be able to keep DD, I believe theyre the sleeper team for KD's services
post #66734 of 93193
Ty Lawson has a lot of other personal issues going on, which won't be solved by just going to another team/city.
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DUI TY.....

Man, he was arguably the best player on my nuggets 56 win team in 2012-2013.

Ty just loves to party man. Seen him a few times out in DC bent. He's had a good long career. Honestly, there's not more he can do. Hopefully he's stacking his $$ and not giving it to that Bad Grils club chick that he made his BM. She's bad AF though. I can see why he hit that raw mean.gif
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post #66736 of 93193
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except the first year in crunch time/clutch moments. That was dwade time. bron missed hella gamewinners that season.

You're suffering from revisionist history

Chasing23.com/lebron-James-vs-Dwyane-Wade-heats-closer/

Men lie, women lie

those numbers are misleading. there are other factors and variables that they do not account for.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

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those numbers are misleading. there are other factors and variables that they do not account for.

Definition of context?
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Alpha

Same **** yall kill bron for

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Alpha

Same **** yall kill bron for

leneedsmorehelp actually has a similar or worse percentage
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it aint happening either way. no way in hell kd goes to gs. its nice to talk about though. i do think it could work  now though. some of you make some good points. kd isnt a ball dominant scorer. 
kd just shoots thats all
post #66741 of 93193
guys were appalled about wb last season , now????
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Alpha

Same **** yall kill bron for

Right

Bbbbbut but but...he scowls when he plays. Triple doubles. He plays angry...blah blah blah laugh.gif.

Russ has talent, but I'm not THAT high on him. I think he's clearly a tier or two below the KD's, Steph's and LeBron's of the NBA.

That 3 he missed at the end while flopping reminded me of the one he took at the end of game 5 against the Clips in the WCSF a few years ago....the refs rewarded him 3 FT's...which he hit and won the game. That thought had to be playing in his mind.

If Cp3 flopped like that, and didn't get the call....there'd be vines, memes and pages upon pages of slander in this thread. But ****** pick and choose. I'm schleep though 😴.
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post #66743 of 93193
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Alpha

Same **** yall kill bron for

to be  honest , i always talk ish about westbrook for that. dude is a better athlete then basketball player. dude has ugly as game just like lebron as well,. 

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The numbers say that Lebron not only attempted more game winners but made more too. I don't know how much carving is needed there. That's just a black and white truth


define game winner
post #66745 of 93193
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those numbers are misleading. there are other factors and variables that they do not account for.

Definition of context?

We do not know the time from which the stat was taken. Just the other day ESPN published that bron is



Here's something else

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1096224-miami-heat-why-lebron-james-is-not-a-closer
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Miami Heat: Why LeBron James Is Not a Closer
By Pete Schauer , Correspondent Mar 9, 2012



LeBron James of the Miami Heat is not a closer.

It used to be that James would take the final shot, missing or losing the ball driving to the rim, but lately, he hasn't even had the confidence to take the game-winning shot.

After passing up the last shot and turning the ball over in the 2012 NBA All-Star game, questions have resurfaced about the lack of clutch performance surrounding LeBron.

During the final seconds of the All-Star game, Kobe Bryant was yelling at LeBron to "shoot the [expletive] ball," something Bryant most definitely would have done.

Don't get me wrong, I am one of the biggest LeBron James fans out there. He's one of the best regular season players in the history of the NBA, but when the game is on the line, you don't want the ball in LBJ's hands—and there are statistics to prove it.

Basketball-reference.com has a tool called the "Shot Finder" that tracks every shot taken in the NBA since the 2000-2001 season. For this example, the cut-off date is March 7, 2012, and I will refer to the criteria below as a "game-winning shot." When tracking James' shots, this is the criteria that I used:

Game: regular season and playoff
Shot Value: two and three points
Shot Result: makes and misses
Quarter: fourth quarter and overtime
Time: five seconds or less in the game
Game Situation: shot to tie or take the lead
FGM= Field Goals Made and FGA= Field Goals Attempted




2011-2012: hasn't attempted any

2010-2011: FGM: 0 FGA: 4

2009-2010: FGM: 0 FGA: 7

2008-2009: FGM: 2 FGA: 6 (.333)

2007-2008: FGM: 1 FGA: 8 (.125)

All in all, James sports a .165 shooting percentage in game-winning situations for his entire career.

It's no wonder why James hasn't attempted any game-winning shots this season, given his 3-25 (.012) track record during the past five seasons.

But he's still a top-three scorer in the NBA this season, averaging more than 27 points per game, while adding 8.4 rebounds and 6.7 assists per game. He's averaging career high shooting percentages, shooting 55 percent from the field and 39 percent from beyond the arc.

So who should close a tight game for the Miami Heat? Let's take a look at Dwyane Wade's numbers using the same criteria that we did for James.

2011-2012: FGM: 2 FGA: 2 (1.000)
Who should take the last shot for the Miami Heat?
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Other
Submit Vote vote to see results

2010-2011: FGM: 0 FGA: 4

2009-2010: FGM: 2 FGA: 7 (.286)

2008-2009: FGM: 1 FGA: 11 (.091)

2007-2008: FGM: 1 FGA: 6 (.167)

For his career, Wade doubles LeBron, posting a .321 shooting percentage in game-winning situations.

If I'm coach Erik Spoelstra in the huddle of a close game, I'm drawing up a play for Wade to take the game-winning shot.

But before I exit, I would like to dismantle the notion that Kevin Durant is a clutch performer in the NBA. Using the same criteria that we did for James and Wade, Durant has attempted 23 game-winning shots in his young career. And guess how many have gone down?

Three. Kevin Durant is a mere 3-23 (.130) when attempting a game-winning shot.

Think Derrick Rose is clutch? He's 3-16 (.188) in these situations.

LeBron James may not be the most clutch player in the NBA by any means, but he's still likely to take home the 2012 MVP trophy.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

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laugh.gif you can carve a stat for anything you want. Way too many factors to actually be considered.



Anybody who watched them play and tries to deny the cape DWade has put on over the years is bogus/lying to themselves.

I remember those games against SAS where Wade put on the cape, and Bron came through off Wade's sauce and started hitting shots. FInished with a "better" statline, but it was obvious these cats were getting bounced without Wade's performance

Remember when Wade set out every other game, was immune during bad performances, allowing Bron to catch all the heat? That was 4 years in a nutshell. The Heat wouldn't have won without Wade... And they wouldn't have won without Lebron...and the wouldn't have won without Bosh.
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I don't think anyone here thinks Westbrook has a single clutch bone in his body

Still shooting better than Lebrun doe

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^^^ All I'm saying is...."context" is a real thing. Dudes in here be joking about it....but "factors and variables" should be accounted for.
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post #66749 of 93193
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Remember when Wade set out every other game, was immune during bad performances, allowing Bron to catch all the heat? That was 4 years in a nutshell. The Heat wouldn't have won without Wade... And they wouldn't have won without Lebron...and the wouldn't have won without Bosh.


I agree with this completely. Which is why I despise any shade sent towards Lebron's teammates. He is leaning on them consistently and are typecasting guys into roles by making them fit around him. Which is completely fine...until he gets bounced and wants to start pointing blame in various directions. Nah, you/yall created this s**t. Find ways to beat it, dont run away from it. Boys are not about being accountable.
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Alpha

Same **** yall kill bron for


And remember when that 1 guy posted that he's better player than Curry laugh.gif
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