2015-2016 NBA Regular Season - MDA to HOU - All-NBA - Harden snubbed - Anthony Davis is broke

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JD617 said:
I watch Inside anyway for the comedy, but there's no way anyone can convince me Chuck watches the NBA on nights he's not working.
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No and I think he barely watches the games he actually is supposed to be discussing. He currently may be the least well-informed "big name" analyst working in sports when it comes to his own sport.
 
JD617 said:
I watch Inside anyway for the comedy, but there's no way anyone can convince me Chuck watches the NBA on nights he's not working.
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He CLEARLY doesn't. 
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 And it's been that way for a long time.

I used to give him the side eye for some of his "analysis", but it's like...what's the point? Chuck is always gonna be Chuck, and the gap between how the game was played when he was around vs. what it is now is even wider. So it's like getting upset at your drunk uncle's latest Facebook rant or some ****. 
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 Just gotta let him cook and not take him too seriously. Every once in a while he'll come up with gem, but he's there strictly for comedy and opinions you'd hear at the barbershop.

Chuck's basically never had a fluid or progressive opinion about any player or team. Whatever his first impression is what sticks. That's just who he is. 

I remember in the early to mid 00's he used to ALWAYS pick Utah as his sleeper team to make it out of the Western conference. They were always his dark horse every season. Must have done it for like 5 straight years. As long as they were in contention, he was picking them. 
 
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651akathePaul said:
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The fact that Wolves fans still include Ricky Rubio when they talk about the teams future is disturbing :lol:
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Why?

The things he does well, he does really well. If you have a KD, Towns and Wiggins, his shooting becomes less of a concern for me. I wouldn't be horribly upset if he wasn't on this team in the foreseeable future either, but your statement makes it seem outlandish to think that way, which is silly.
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This. Plus I don't even think Tyus is ready to start and who would we go get? Conley?

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lawdog1 said:
And there really were some dudes in here saying they'd smash. I mean, I'll let my standards dip pretty low at times, but just no. No way on that.
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there were. i understand having a fat fetish, but fat and disgusting fetish. that ill never understand. 
 
HOOD17 said:
651akathePaul said:
show time 96 said:
The fact that Wolves fans still include Ricky Rubio when they talk about the teams future is disturbing :lol:
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Why?

The things he does well, he does really well. If you have a KD, Towns and Wiggins, his shooting becomes less of a concern for me. I wouldn't be horribly upset if he wasn't on this team in the foreseeable future either, but your statement makes it seem outlandish to think that way, which is silly.
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This. Plus I don't even think Tyus is ready to start and who would we go get? Conley?
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People only get into half the battle when it comes to alternatives. If you need to upgrade a position, then it's almost assumed that that is what will happen, but it's only part of the equation. You need real alternatives. Rubio with a lot of talent around him would probably hold more value than he does now and he's by no means below average as an overall PG. Tyus is small and while I think he has a potentially promising future, that's just not a safe trade-off, especially knowing what you already have in Rubio and not with Tyus. Bigger PG's will do just as much damage, probably more, against him than they would against the pesky Rubio.
 
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HOOD17 said:
 
651akathePaul said:
 
show time 96 said:
The fact that Wolves fans still include Ricky Rubio when they talk about the teams future is disturbing
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Why?

The things he does well, he does really well. If you have a KD, Towns and Wiggins, his shooting becomes less of a concern for me. I wouldn't be horribly upset if he wasn't on this team in the foreseeable future either, but your statement makes it seem outlandish to think that way, which is silly.
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This. Plus I don't even think Tyus is ready to start and who would we go get? Conley?

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HOOD17 said:
651akathePaul said:
show time 96 said:
The fact that Wolves fans still include Ricky Rubio when they talk about the teams future is disturbing :lol:
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Why?

The things he does well, he does really well. If you have a KD, Towns and Wiggins, his shooting becomes less of a concern for me. I wouldn't be horribly upset if he wasn't on this team in the foreseeable future either, but your statement makes it seem outlandish to think that way, which is silly.
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This. Plus I don't even think Tyus is ready to start and who would we go get? Conley?

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:lol: At the Jordan face.
 
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This. Plus I don't even think Tyus is ready to start and who would we go get? Conley?

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I'm a big supporter of Tyus, I see him as a floor general and actual leader. I hope he gets a shot and soon.


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People only get into half the battle when it comes to alternatives. If you need to upgrade a position, then it's almost assumed that that is what will happen, but it's only part of the equation. You need real alternatives. Rubio with a lot of talent around him would probably hold more value than he does now and he's by no means below average as an overall PG. Tyus is small and while I think he has a potentially promising future, that's just not a safe trade-off, especially knowing what you already have in Rubio and not with Tyus. Bigger PG's will do just as much damage, probably more, against him than they would against the pesky Rubio.
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I can see what you are saying but when the recipe is not working, why continue? Rubio is clearly not the answer .. give someone else a chance ... after all what do they have to lose?
 
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HOOD17 said:
This. Plus I don't even think Tyus is ready to start and who would we go get? Conley?

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I'm a big supporter of Tyus, I see him as a floor general and actual leader. I hope he gets a shot and soon.


651akathePaul said:
People only get into half the battle when it comes to alternatives. If you need to upgrade a position, then it's almost assumed that that is what will happen, but it's only part of the equation. You need real alternatives. Rubio with a lot of talent around him would probably hold more value than he does now and he's by no means below average as an overall PG. Tyus is small and while I think he has a potentially promising future, that's just not a safe trade-off, especially knowing what you already have in Rubio and not with Tyus. Bigger PG's will do just as much damage, probably more, against him than they would against the pesky Rubio.
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I can see what you are saying but when the recipe is not working, why continue? Rubio is clearly not the answer .. give someone else a chance ... after all what do they have to lose?
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He's not meant to be an answer though. Are we expecting him to be a premiere superstar? The team he's been on was not tailored to his strengths as a point guard. He distributes with the best of the best, but he's never had more than one person on his team who he can really distribute to. With just one more reliable scorer to go along with Wiggins and KAT, it greatly relieves the role that Rubio would need to fulfill as a scorer. The reason why it isn't working now and in the past is because he can't shoot well enough to carry the offense as a 2nd option. I'm confident that if he had enough firepower with him on offense, his value would be much higher and would be a perfect fit. I've seen a good amount of improvement as is and that's with a rookie and 2nd year player taking on the scoring roles. Them growing together will yield better results in the future.

To your analogy, no recipe will work if you don't have the right ingredients in your pantry.
 
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@CP1708

First, kindly answer this question for me, if you will.

What was danny ainge's plan, from his own mouth, heading into the 2015 draft?

What I've always said is that those assets, being late firsts and second rounders, did not have enough value in a TRADE to move into the lottery, to make a james harden, kg/ray allen type deal etc. That was my original stance and that's what happened on draft night.

That's one topic. Now I'll address what you're talking about, which is a different topic.

You are 100% absolutely correct that they can use those picks to draft a worthwhile player and see what he's made of. 100% correct, I never said otherwise. I'm giving you that point.

Now here's the thing, and this is low key yet another different topic but worth mentioning. Ainge had 4 picks in 2015. Couldn't trade them like he said he wanted to but hey plan B, let's see what they got, might be Draymond, Clarkson, manu, monta whatever.

None of them play. One is in Australia the other three are trapped in the d league. So when you or others say ainge didn't fail because the team is the 3 seed (which they've only been for like a week but ok) even tho the way he handled the draft day trades and the way the team is playing now are two seperate incidents, but for the sake of discussion I'll go with it. The players he drafted have contributed literally nothing to the team's play, so how can anyone say they have something to do with it? How can someone say he didn't fail at the draft because the team is playing well, when the kids from the draft aren't even playing? He had a plan and didn't get it done. In that sense, he failed.

I can understand if you say he didn't fail because we don't know what kind of players they are yet. Ok cool. But that's completely different from, he didn't fail because the team is doing well.

And the question I never got answered. By your logic, if he didn't fail at the draft because the team is currently better than last year, what does that mean if the team ends up finishing 8th like last year or worse?

So yes you're right they might find a gem late in the draft. Honestly they may have picked up 4 already. But when you draft 4 guys and 3 play the same position, none of them play, and then you're drafting 3+ guys for the next 5 years (because they aren't valuable enough to trade for what you really want) how would you even know? As far as trade assets that bk pick is their most valuable piece. If it falls to 5 it's still valuable but less so than if it were Ben simmons. Still a good asset regardless. The rest of the picks, as trade assets, not as players (Draymond etc.) But just as numbers like we'll give you 33 and 45 for 12. Not that valuable which is all I've ever said.

Thank you for taking the time to have a thoughtful, adult discussion and not being a ho. I truly appreciate you, you're alright.
 
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next year is the last year with Adidas, correct?

Pistons should go byke to the orange & teal :smokin
 
[quote name="nickmaz96"]Lakers logo should've been Dwight Howard :smh:[/quote]Knicks should have been Eddie Curry.

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