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Originally Posted by lawdog1 View Post

The outcome of this game should not be "surprising" to anyone who's watched these teams play over the last two years

Real spill.
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Originally Posted by bravo View Post

LBJ clowning.. can't wait til he faces a good team to see if hes this joyful. 

You know his front running *** ain't laugh.gif. Bron confidence level in the 09 season was the funniest sht in the world though. That video of him dancing, and Joakim getting HEATED was pure disrespect laugh.gif.

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Originally Posted by WavyCrocket View Post

I for one, think Okafor can be a better version of Cousins...sans the rebounding. Which I think he'll improve upon. Cousins was horrible as a defender coming in the league...and was in bad shape...and couldn't shoot. Jahlil has shown a nice touch on his jumper as well...and is further along than Cousins at the same stage offensively.

It's really hard to judge him right now...because he's on the Sixers....but it feels like everybody is so low on him because of the "New NBA". I mean, a realistic "floor" for him is Brook Lopez. He can be better than that.

It's not a stretch to think he can reach Demarcus cousins levels of defensive ability...or that he can be a consistent mid range shooter. I think you just build around Jahlil. But people are jumping out the window and acting like he can't be an effective NBA player. I don't buy it.

Cousins was a good defender in college, and just has better instincts, Boogies problem in the past was effort and fouling. Okafor wasn't a good defender in college, and has been titanically awful in the pro's way worse than rookie Cousins.

Also cousins is an incredible passer and was the minute he stepped into the league. Okafor is a black hole.


I don't see the Cousins comparison at all, other than the post game.


I don't even understand how you can call Lopez a floor. Lopez is an excellent shot blocker and at least provides rim protection in the right schemes, Jahlil can't give you that, Lopez can also shoot.
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Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius View Post

He gon be better than Lopez. laugh.gif

I can see him scoring 25 a game at his peak. He'll be the PF version of Harden. All offense no defense.

A PF version of Harden is worse than Harden because PF's are way more integral to your defense, you can hide James Harden you can't hide a bad big man defender. Not sure way anyone would be confident he's going to be better than Lopez.

also Okafor is a C.

Lopez as a 20 year old rookie, has better numbers than a 20 year old Okafor. and gives you shooting and shot blocking that Okafor doesn't.
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post #71313 of 93193

8o

 

Ya'll might want to check out Jeff Adrien's twitter right about meow.

 

https://www.yahoo.com/music/according-jeff-adrien-lebron-james-122100619.html

 

Jeff Adrien ‎@Adrien4

What's funny is @kingjames from bs Akron thinks he's gunna take @Beyonce away from Jay-Z 😂...: This is endless conversations folks.


Edited by EarldaGoat - 3/13/16 at 2:59pm
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Originally Posted by lakersman3000 View Post

today i learned dudes on nt nba discussion thread still watch wrestling. 
whats wrong with that? My homegirl is in nxt right now so she keeps me entertained plus i gotta support something that was part of my childhood and still alive and thriving today
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you have andy dalton as your avy and asking people if they still believe in they favorite team :rollin 

 

FOUL :lol:{

BENGALS l BUCKEYES l LAKERS

BENGALS l BUCKEYES l LAKERS
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Originally Posted by EarldaGoat View Post

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Ya'll might want to check out Jeff Adrien's twitter right about meow.

https://www.yahoo.com/music/according-jeff-adrien-lebron-james-122100619.html
this the same jeff adrien that was on the Warriors?
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Clippers ain't beating no team worth a damn in the playoffs.
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Originally Posted by B33R Money View Post


this the same jeff adrien that was on the Warriors?

 

Yessir

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remember when he played with the w's my boys use to run into him at this local food spot. they were saying how he wasn't "all there" but i didnt know what that mean.
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I gotta colleague that runs a Warriors forum and he did say the warriors are a bunch of potheads haha

And at the time jeff adrien was on the squad maybe he just got some good
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whats wrong with that? My homegirl is in nxt right now so she keeps me entertained plus i gotta support something that was part of my childhood and still alive and thriving today

i already answered this question. . i said nothing wrong it , not my thing but it just was surprising to me because i really didnt know it was still popular. 

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I don't think you can even play in the nba until you fail a drug test
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NBA players are heavy pot users.. when they fail a drug test its usually the real drugs . They mask it by saying "pot" since about 60% of america is ok with it. Hence doesn't look as bad on paper
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NBA players are heavy pot users.. when they fail a drug test its usually the real drugs . They mask it by saying "pot" since about 60% of america is ok with it. Hence doesn't look as bad on paper

 

what

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at least the nba is getting away from the cocaine problem that they use to have

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You really can't be a wrestling fan and not understand why people think it's sus laugh.gif

what do you mean with that comment?
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Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius View Post

He gon be better than Lopez. laugh.gif

I can see him scoring 25 a game at his peak. He'll be the PF version of Harden. All offense no defense.

A PF version of Harden is worse than Harden because PF's are way more integral to your defense, you can hide James Harden you can't hide a bad big man defender. Not sure way anyone would be confident he's going to be better than Lopez.

also Okafor is a C.

Lopez as a 20 year old rookie, has better numbers than a 20 year old Okafor. and gives you shooting and shot blocking that Okafor doesn't.

Center, PF it's the same **** nowadays.


Lopez average 13 and 8 as Rookie. Okafor 17 and. Lopez percentages are better but those ain't exactly better #'s.


His ceiling is way higher than Lopez to me. Lopez has never been a good rebounder for his size and postion. He's a decent shot blocker. Never been a top big man in the league.


I won't ever defend Okafor's lack of defense. Being a big man that doesn't play defense is a serious flaw but he'll be a force on offense. Something Lopez has never been. And I think he can at least average 10 rebounds a game. Something Lopez has never done.
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Originally Posted by DON RAMON View Post

what
you know how to read ?
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Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius View Post

Center, PF it's the same **** nowadays.


Lopez average 13 and 8 as Rookie. Okafor 17 and. Lopez percentages are better but those ain't exactly better #'s.


His ceiling is way higher than Lopez to me. Lopez has never been a good rebounder for his size and postion. He's a decent shot blocker. Never been a top big man in the league.


I won't ever defend Okafor's lack of defense. Being a big man that doesn't play defense is a serious flaw but he'll be a force on offense. Something Lopez has never been. And I think he can at least average 10 rebounds a game. Something Lopez has never done.
Alex Len is probably going to be a top 3 big man in a few years
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Clippers ain't beating no team worth a damn in the playoffs.


We lose one game...
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Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius View Post

Center, PF it's the same **** nowadays.


Lopez average 13 and 8 as Rookie. Okafor 17 and. Lopez percentages are better but those ain't exactly better #'s.


His ceiling is way higher than Lopez to me. Lopez has never been a good rebounder for his size and postion. He's a decent shot blocker. Never been a top big man in the league.


I won't ever defend Okafor's lack of defense. Being a big man that doesn't play defense is a serious flaw but he'll be a force on offense. Something Lopez has never been. And I think he can at least average 10 rebounds a game. Something Lopez has never done.

Wut? laugh.gif

LOPEZ was a BETTER rebounder as a rookie than Okafor, he was a better rebounder in college, he is taller, heavier. what on earth makes you think that Okafor would be a better rebounder?

If you think Brook can't rebound then you must think Okafor can't either.

also

it's not the same, your position is who you can guard, Okafor can't guard any 4's who are mobile, or can shoot 3's which is like 80% of the PF's now.

He's a C.
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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh View Post

Cousins was a good defender in college, and just has better instincts, Boogies problem in the past was effort and fouling. Okafor wasn't a good defender in college, and has been titanically awful in the pro's way worse than rookie Cousins.

Also cousins is an incredible passer and was the minute he stepped into the league. Okafor is a black hole.


I don't see the Cousins comparison at all, other than the post game.


I don't even understand how you can call Lopez a floor. Lopez is an excellent shot blocker and at least provides rim protection in the right schemes, Jahlil can't give you that, Lopez can also shoot.
A PF version of Harden is worse than Harden because PF's are way more integral to your defense, you can hide James Harden you can't hide a bad big man defender. Not sure way anyone would be confident he's going to be better than Lopez.

also Okafor is a C.

Lopez as a 20 year old rookie, has better numbers than a 20 year old Okafor. and gives you shooting and shot blocking that Okafor doesn't.

Cousins wasn't no damn "good defender" coming out of college. Stop it laugh.gif. He also shot poorly when he first came into the league...is still inefficient and turnover prone. Jahlil is a black hole...but his handle and vision are there. He can already hit the foul line jumper....and is taking bigs off the dribble routinely.

I think Jahlil can become an average defender overall if Demarcus Cousins can. That's definitely fair.
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5 and 4 def ain't the same thing tho. If it was then Tim Duncan wouldn't be the biggest fraud in all of sports.
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We lose one game...

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what do you mean with that comment?

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This Kings Jazz score though

San Antonio Spurs: MCMXCIX, MMIII, MMV, MMVII, MMXIV


I Never Cried When _____ Died, But I Definitely Will When Hov Does

San Antonio Spurs: MCMXCIX, MMIII, MMV, MMVII, MMXIV


I Never Cried When _____ Died, But I Definitely Will When Hov Does

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Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius View Post

Center, PF it's the same **** nowadays.


Lopez average 13 and 8 as Rookie. Okafor 17 and. Lopez percentages are better but those ain't exactly better #'s.


His ceiling is way higher than Lopez to me. Lopez has never been a good rebounder for his size and postion. He's a decent shot blocker. Never been a top big man in the league.


I won't ever defend Okafor's lack of defense. Being a big man that doesn't play defense is a serious flaw but he'll be a force on offense. Something Lopez has never been. And I think he can at least average 10 rebounds a game. Something Lopez has never done.

Wut? laugh.gif

LOPEZ was a BETTER rebounder as a rookie than Okafor, he was a better rebounder in college, he is taller, heavier. what on earth makes you think that Okafor would be a better rebounder?

If you think Brook can't rebound then you must think Okafor can't either.

also

it's not the same, your position is who you can guard, Okafor can't guard any 4's who are mobile, or can shoot 3's which is like 80% of the PF's now.

He's a C.

Nah. Lopez ain't a good rebounder for his size. Right now Jalil ain't either. I think he can develop into one. I might be wrong. Only time will tell. But he's definitely gonna impact games more than Brook damn Lopez. laugh.gif
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very few bigs want to learn and excel on the defensive end. hard work on the boards/defensive end should translate right away.
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Originally Posted by WavyCrocket View Post

Cousins wasn't no damn "good defender" coming out of college. Stop it laugh.gif. He also shot poorly when he first came into the league...is still inefficient and turnover prone. Jahlil is a black hole...but his handle and vision are there. He can already hit the foul line jumper....and is taking bigs off the dribble routinely.

I think Jahlil can become an average defender overall if Demarcus Cousins can. That's definitely fair.

he doesn't have vision. laugh.gif

This is one of the biggest misconceptions about Okafor, that he was a good passer in college, he was a DECENT passer against college defense. but it took him dribbling around with the ball for 4-5 seconds before he could make the correct read. and he had a really low assist rate.

Okafor wasn't a great passer in college and he's even more of a black hole in the pros. and that's reflected in his single digit assist rates.


Cousins was a good defender at Kentucky, and in his rookie year, if you WATCHED him, you could see the instincts, hands, incredible defensive rebounding, the problem was effort and fouling, that's a complete different than Okafor who is slow, poor iq and struggles making the right rotations. much more difficult to fix.

Kentucky had a top 5 defense, with Cousins, and Boogie was a big part of that.

The only way Okafor and Cousins are comparable is the handle and the post game.

All Okafor, has to do become Cousins type is become an elite passer, rebounder, good defender, decent shooter to be like Cousins. That is a LONG way to go.
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Nah. Lopez ain't a good rebounder for his size. Right now Jalil ain't either. I think he can develop into one. I might be wrong. Only time will tell. But he's definitely gonna impact games more than Brook damn Lopez. laugh.gif

why?

He was an indifferent rebounder in HS, College and now as a pro. What makes you think he will become a better rebounder than the taller, heaveir brook lopez? laugh.gif

Like just pure hoping an wishing?
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Originally Posted by leemelone View Post

You really can't be a wrestling fan and not understand why people think it's sus laugh.gif

whats wrong with Wrestling? laugh.gif


id rather watch wwe than watch the Lakers play right now
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We lose one game...

I'm still woke from that Knicks washing
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