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Will Barton has to be 6MOTY right?

Or we still reserving that award for playoff only teams? Lin is the only other candidate. The "super 6th man" is dying (thankfully). I can see Iggy getting it though...

Its going to either crawford or lin, I think. Dont think iggy gets it due to dray and steph's season(s) overshadowing his contributions this year

The award has never went to a player who's team isnt "winning"

Am in agreement though about the super six man dying off though. Am happy about that
The sixth man offensive guard is dying, but the sixth man offensive big man is alive and well!

Jefferson, Whiteside, Monroe, Kanter.
post #71612 of 93193
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The sixth man offensive guard is dying, but the sixth man offensive big man is alive and well!

Jefferson, Whiteside, Monroe, Kanter.

Damn, I wonder when the public percetion of the 6man award will change towards the big man

Thats a pretty credible list right ther. Hadnt even thought of any of those guys for contention of the award

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post #71613 of 93193
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The sixth man offensive guard is dying, but the sixth man offensive big man is alive and well!

Jefferson, Whiteside, Monroe, Kanter.

You're on to something. Damn. Didn't even think like that. We've been kid of conditioned to consider that award for guards....but Kanter averaging 12 & 8 on a 50 something win team with 0 starts is definitely 6th man worthy.

Hope Will can win it for the squad. Yeah, that's a really good point.
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post #71614 of 93193
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Originally Posted by shoeking2102 View Post

Damn, I wonder when the public percetion of the 6man award will change towards the big man

Thats a pretty credible list right ther. Hadnt even thought of any of those guys for contention of the award

Yo we damn near typed the same exact train of thought at the same time laugh.gif
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post #71615 of 93193
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I don't think players mind old school if you can actually coach...I don't think Byron Scott can coach.

Subjective. I mean, at the end of the day, the team‘s success is based on the players out there.

PJ, Spo, Mike Brown, Kerr, Walton, Doc rode the talent bus.

Purgatory guys like Thibs, Scottie Brooks had the talent, but not enough to win.

One thing is for sure, coaches are always the scapegoat in most situations.
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Originally Posted by WavyCrocket View Post

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Originally Posted by PMatic View Post

The sixth man offensive guard is dying, but the sixth man offensive big man is alive and well!

Jefferson, Whiteside, Monroe, Kanter.

You're on to something. Damn. Didn't even think like that. We've been kid of conditioned to consider that award for guards....but Kanter averaging 12 & 8 on a 50 something win team with 0 starts is definitely 6th man worthy.

Hope Will can win it for the squad. Yeah, that's a really good point.

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Originally Posted by PMatic View Post

The sixth man offensive guard is dying, but the sixth man offensive big man is alive and well!

Jefferson, Whiteside, Monroe, Kanter.

Damn, I wonder when the public percetion of the 6man award will change towards the big man

Thats a pretty credible list right ther. Hadnt even thought of any of those guys for contention of the award
It makes sense. They can be the hubs of second units and not be as damaging on defense (sans Whiteside).

Someone send this to Pau. This is partly why Pau was benched when D'Antoni was around. But alas...
post #71617 of 93193
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Damn, I wonder when the public percetion of the 6man award will change towards the big man

Thats a pretty credible list right ther. Hadnt even thought of any of those guys for contention of the award

When they stop picking up fouls and get more exposure. Big guys are notorious for getting into foul trouble and are always seen as less skilled dudes.

Obviously, that‘s not the case.
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It looks like the bench is where all the slow back to the basket bigs are going.
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they're showing the okc/dubs classic game on nbatv. early 3rd qtr.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

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I really don't understand this Whiteside on the bench thing though. Him and Spoelstra got smoke laugh.gif.

If it wasn't for Whiteside's love if Miami, and DJ Khaled....he'd be good as gone in the offseason.
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post #71621 of 93193
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I really don't understand this Whiteside on the bench thing though. Him and Spoelstra got smoke laugh.gif.

If it wasn't for Whiteside's love if Miami, and DJ Khaled....he'd be good as gone in the offseason.
Whiteside has played great off the bench, it works for well with the rotation.
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Whiteside definitely has an argument for 6MOY. Leading the league in blocks -- by a fairly significant margin -- while coming off the bench is pretty impressive. In addition to the other things he does for the 2016 Heatles.
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IMO the Whiteside off the bench decision came down from Riley.
They're trying to downplay his worth so when his FA comes around they will try to retain him for the low knowing they prob gotta make room for Dwades salary for at least another year or two ala Kobe's farewell contract.
Riley ain't dumb, trying to show prospective FA that the Heat are all about paying they're players.

Rile's is a snake first chance he gets he will try to dump Bosh to free up the cap space since his health is a major concern going forward.
The whole Bosh deal was a play for the public after Bron bolted to show that they are willing to pay.
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IMO the Whiteside off the bench decision came down from Riley.
They're trying to downplay his worth so when his FA comes around they will try to retain him for the low knowing they prob gotta make room for Dwades salary for at least another year or two ala Kobe's farewell contract.
Riley ain't dumb, trying to show prospective FA that the Heat are all about paying they're players.

Miami and the rest of the league all know white sides is getting the max.

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I don't know about all that.
Whiteside is volatile. Temper trantums and all the yapping is never a good look when franchise's are evaluating max level players.
You need to look no further than the Kings to see what happens when you got an emotional diva in the locker room ( Cousins), making the max, and undermining a coach.
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I don't know about all that.
Whiteside is volatile. Temper trantums and all the yapping is never a good look when franchise's are evaluating max level players.
You need to look no further than the Kings to see what happens when you got an emotional diva in the locker room ( Cousins), making the max, and undermining a coach.

I think he's kept himself in check well enough this season that his 12 points, 13 boards and 4 blocks a game is going to far outweigh any perceived character problems with him. Especially if the Heat have a decent playoff run and he plays well. Of course, if he melts down at any point through the remainder of the season and playoffs, it could work against him. But as things stand now, he's looking like a max guy.
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post #71627 of 93193
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I like Gary Payton Jr. Not at number 1 but as a effective NBA player.

Feel the same way.
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Whiteside is getting whatever the hell he asks for. If that happens to be the max then the max he shall receive.

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post #71629 of 93193
No question Hassan gets the max this off-season
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Whiteside is definitely getting the max, probably 20 mill a year
post #71631 of 93193
i hope pistons let drummond walk and try and scoop hassan.

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #71632 of 93193
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i hope pistons let drummond walk and try and scoop hassan.
that's very dumb
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hassan getting maxed out on a bad team spells trouble. i doubt a real contender is even considering him or have the available room financially
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i hope pistons let drummond walk and try and scoop hassan.
that's very dumb

explain

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #71635 of 93193
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explain
Drummond is younger, has no crazy factor, better defender, and isn't the black hole that Hassan is which important to the SVG offense, not mention he's arguably better than Hassan right now and is improving every year.
Whiteside has fixed his free throws, which is a major issue for Drummond right now though.
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Drummond is a better player & has a good head on his shoulders

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only a couple people in this league can pull that off. Westbrook and the second best player on the planet
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Giannis Antetokounmpo continues to do things a 6-foot-11 human being should not be capable of doing.



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He picks up his dribble from well beyond the 3-point line and GETS TO THE BASKET IN TWO STEPS!


How does that shot above turn into a dunk? I’ve watched the replay about a thousand times and still don’t believe it. And, for good measure, he throws in a slick ball fake that puts Shane Larkin in the spin cycle.

When old NBA players say the game was better in their day and guys like Steph Curry couldn’t survive, show them a replay of this play and remind them Antetokounmpo is roughly the same size as Bill Russell. The game has evolved, gentlemen.
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DeMarcus Cousins is openly rebelling against his coach, and the Kings look like they're headed towards disaster again



It's another lost season for DeMarcus Cousins and the Sacramento Kings.

It's become another lost year for the Sacramento Kings, but they never fail to make it dramatic.

Last week, the Kings suspended DeMarcus Cousins for one game for getting into a shouting match with head coach George Karl during a game and again afterward.

When asked about it, Vlade Divac, the Kings president of basketball operations, said, "We tried to do our best thing to send a message that we cannot tolerate some stuff ... He went a little far and we have to do things to be on the same page."

Divac also said that the suspension was his decision after speaking to Cousins and taking some time to "sleep on it."

However, on Sunday, when Cousins returned to the team from his suspension, he wasted no time in throwing Karl under the bus.

"That was no suspension from the organization," Cousins told reporters. "That was one from the head coach. There's a difference."

Before the game, a 108-99 loss to the Utah Jazz, Karl said he exchanged "pleasantries" with Cousins, though nothing "in-depth." Cousins also disputed that afterward.

"He hasn't said a word to me," Cousins said.

It's easy to see that this isn't an ideal situation. At 25-40, the Kings are far out of the playoff picture after a brief glimmer of hope for postseason contention earlier in the year. As the Kings miss the playoffs for the 10th year in a row, they're faced with the same question they've had for several years: what's next?

It seems like a no-brainer that Karl will be fired. His relationship with Cousins was rocky from the start, as Karl was hired as a replacement for Mike Malone, the only coach Cousins has gotten along with in the NBA. Karl made a comment last year that Cousins was not un-tradable, which further bothered the 25-year-old big man. Attempts to patch up the relationship have seemed half-hearted, and though the Kings showed the slightest bit of patience in giving Karl this season to try and take the reins, this kind of contentious atmosphere can't continue.

The Cousins debacle is even more difficult. Despite his otherworldly talent, Cousins hasn't proven to be a game-changing player that can make a team a borderline playoff contender by himself. His attitude issues only further complicate the problem.

With the right pieces in place (i.e. a better overall roster) Cousins can certainly help bring the Kings to the playoffs. But the Kings have been unsuccessful for six years in giving Cousins a competitive team to work with. With two more seasons left on his contract, Cousins is an attractive trade piece, and the Kings could gather attractive assets in return for him, but it will only push them further away from playoff contention. Reports paint the Kings ownership as desperate and impatient to make the playoffs.

The Kings' season will end with a dull thud once again, and it seems this offseason, the Kings are going to have to make some serious decisions about their future.
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