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Yeah....dude just had 28 shots and 1 assist.....he doesnt really pass

 

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From ages 19 to 21, Kyrie went from 275, to 350, to 433 in total assist w/ an average of about 60 games played during that span. He was at over 6 assist on avg per 36 in every single year from 19 to 21.

 

He was an improving passer before Lebron got there and while I don't think he would have got to elite, it's just not fair to say he "didn't" or "doesn't" pass and it's just flat out wrong to see the trajectory that his passing ability was going towards. 

 

For comparison, Kyrie's per 36 assist numbers at 19 are almost identical to Damian Lillard's per 36 numbers right now at 25 and one isn't playing with Lebron. 

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post #72932 of 93193
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I know you're new to the thread, but Hot Sauce=Kyrie Irving laugh.gif

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I mean they could use anybody right now lol repped though. Thanks for not puttin me on blast. roll.gif
post #72933 of 93193
Why wasn't IT being compared to Kyrie two years ago? I've haven't really watched the Celtics, but he was averaging similar numbers when he was on the Kings
post #72934 of 93193
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Why wasn't IT being compared to Kyrie two years ago? I've haven't really watched the Celtics, but he was averaging similar numbers when he was on the Kings
He was
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Kyrie can't play the 2 position. He's too small, not strong enough and not a solid defender, he'll be food. Even if you bring in a defensive point guard, the opposing teams 2 guard will feast on him... like JJ Redick would run laps all around him and will get Kyrie tired.. Jimmy Butler would post him up all day... Oladipo would eat him... Klay would destroy him... 

 

Ya get the point. 

post #72936 of 93193
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Good info. I still think he could make more of an effort but the numbers are there. For the record I like Kyrie
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Why wasn't IT being compared to Kyrie two years ago? I've haven't really watched the Celtics, but he was averaging similar numbers when he was on the Kings

all the graphics being posted are from when he was on the Kings...

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 Thanks for not puttin me on blast. roll.gif

I can't put anybody on blast trying to talk about the and1 tour :lol

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post #72938 of 93193
I'm just happy that y'all finally realize Wall > Kyrie

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post #72939 of 93193
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Good info. I still think he could make more of an effort but the numbers are there. For the record I like Kyrie

 

Like I said, I feel as though that him not passing is partly him, but it's largely the function of the role that he plays on his team.

 

When he the main man on Cleveland he was improving as a passer and was very young at the time. He was averaging 6 assist a game with a rather below average cast before Lebron got there. 

 

I just think that him not passing and not playing defense is overblown a bit. 

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post #72940 of 93193
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Kyrie can't play the 2 position. He's too small, not strong enough and not a solid defender, he'll be food. Even if you bring in a defensive point guard, the opposing teams 2 guard will feast on him... like JJ Redick would run laps all around him and will get Kyrie tired.. Jimmy Butler would post him up all day... Oladipo would eat him... Klay would destroy him... 

Ya get the point. 

Right. He'd be even more sauce at the 2 guard.

Guys like Manu, barbosa, Mike Miller, Ben Gordon and antawn Jamison have shot 40%+ from 3 as 6 man. It's not so much the % as it is the PPG that keeps Kyrie off the bench. 20+ PPG is elite company in the NBA and there has rarely ever been a 6 man scoring that much, last one was in 1989.
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From ages 19 to 21, Kyrie went from 275, to 350, to 433 in total assist w/ an average of about 60 games played during that span. He was at over 6 assist on avg per 36 in every single year from 19 to 21.

He was an improving passer before Lebron got there

His total assists increased because he was playing more mins each year, but his assist rate actually declined each year. His asst per 36 also declined.

Russell Westbrook is a guy who improved as a facilitator each year. Kyrie is not, & thats fine with Bron down there now.
  
  
post #72942 of 93193
I mean if you just watch him play you can see he doesn't think about passing like that. Son overdribbles like a fool out there. He's out here playing 21 majority of the time. They don't call him hot sauce for no reason
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to be fair to kyrie, when the face of your franchise is selfish it makes the rest of the guys selfish as well 

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post #72944 of 93193
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His total assists increased because he was playing more mins each year, but his assist rate actually declined each year. His asst per 36 also declined.

Russell Westbrook is a guy who improved as a facilitator each year. Kyrie is not, & thats fine with Bron down there now.

 

Fair enough, repped. But his assist number per 36 didn't drop "that" much from year to year. I think it was like .1, .2, difference from year to year before lebron came? Something like that. Also his team has to play a factor in assist, which is also why assist aren't the only measure for me to assess a player's improvement in that area. 

 

Still think he was heading in the right direction in that regard and at 21, I think it's unfair to finalize who he is as a passer / playmaker.

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Can't stop, won't stop

 

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Can't stop, won't stop

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His total assists increased because he was playing more mins each year, but his assist rate actually declined each year. His asst per 36 also declined.

Russell Westbrook is a guy who improved as a facilitator each year. Kyrie is not, & thats fine with Bron down there now.

All of this. Well said
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post #72948 of 93193

Trust me, Kyrie would and will thrive as a 6th man. James Harden style. 

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His total assists increased because he was playing more mins each year, but his assist rate actually declined each year. His asst per 36 also declined.


Russell Westbrook is a guy who improved as a facilitator each year. Kyrie is not,

Fair enough, repped. But his assist number per 36 didn't drop "that" much from year to year. I think it was like .1, .2, difference from year to year before lebron came? Something like that. Also his team has to play a factor in assist, which is also why assist aren't the only measure for me to assess a player's improvement in that area. 

Still think he was heading in the right direction in that regard and at 21, I think it's unfair to finalize who he is as a passer / playmaker.
We're gonna have to agree to disagree in that regard then. I didn't see any real growth from the eye test & the numbers support it.

His entire game is pretty much the same today as it was his rookie year.

Assist rate, 3 pt %, % at the rim, ppg per 36 have all essentially stayed the same from day 1. (assist rate obviously decreasing since Bron's arrival) 3 pt% increased with Bron there as well since he was being assisted on more of them, so I'm not sure if he's actually improved as a shooter or not.

I'm kinda disappointed with his development honestly. At the very least he's not regressing, so that's positive.
  
  
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Trust me, Kyrie would and will thrive as a 6th man. James Harden style. 

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I'm assuming no one in here watches college ball lol?

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post #72953 of 93193
What is it about playing with Bronny that seems to make certain guys less likeable? Kyrie was a favorite on here for a while, but now that he's Lebby's teammate, he's getting turned on. People on here loved D Wade for a long time. But he was pretty disliked during the Heatles days. (Or did we turn on Wade before Lebbwinks got to Miami ?- I can't remember). Now people are liking Wade again.

There are exceptions, of course. Not even Bron could make us turn on Mario "Top 10" Chalmers. nthat.gif
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post #72954 of 93193
bruhhh any of yall remember that youtube vid that was posted last year of those guys letting 2k simulate for like 10 years and it had a new species of player, the perfects or whatever, all 7'11 with maxed out everything and the last player from our world that survived was kyrie laugh.gif

Lakers tho...

Lakers tho...

post #72955 of 93193
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What does this mean bro? 
I'm trying to guess as well. My right arm is better then my left. Isn't everyone who is righty like that
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I'm assuming no one in here watches college ball lol?

Watching today. Little buddy from Yale is cooking
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post #72958 of 93193
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What is it about playing with Bronny that seems to make certain guys less likeable? Kyrie was a favorite on here for a while, but now that he's Lebby's teammate, he's getting turned on. People on here loved D Wade for a long time. But he was pretty disliked during the Heatles days. (Or did we turn on Wade before Lebbwinks got to Miami ?- I can't remember). Now people are liking Wade again.

There are exceptions, of course. Not even Bron could make us turn on Mario "Top 10" Chalmers. nthat.gif
I don't know. I still like Kyrie. He's my favorite cav. I just don't root for him to win or want to see him win.
post #72959 of 93193
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People on here loved D Wade for a long time. But he was pretty disliked during the Heatles days. (Or did we turn on Wade before Lebbwinks got to Miami ?- I can't remember).

Nah screw DWade. Between stealing that finals, being DWhistle, and the wheelchair incident... he was hated on here.
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