Originally Posted by sea manup
kid cant counter my fax so tries to insult me
always trying to bait me into crossing the line so he can report me again
he want's me to be banned so bad
I went to bed, so that's why I didn't respond to anything you said. And I don't see how you've countered anything I said about Kobe last night with "fax." Go back and read the thread and you'll see I said the proof of Kobe's great leadership has come mostly in the form of quotes about Kobe from people who either currently play/work for the Lakers or have washed out of the league. Your latest batch of quotes is fully consistent with that. Fax, B.
Here's my full position on the issue, so I don't have to address it again.
Quotes from current and former teammates about how good a leader Kobe is are not facts; they're opinions. Opinions from people who may not be in a position to speak objectively about the subject. I'm if someone went into the Cavs locker room and started asking all their players whether LeBron is a good leader they would say favorable things. Would you accept those opinions as probative facts? I think not.
The only way to objectively evaluate how good a leader someone is, IMO, is to look at the results they get. Kobe's track record in that department is pretty spotty. The Lakers have done well with him as the face of the franchise when they happened to have the most talented roster and the arguably the best coach ever. Aside from those periods, things haven't been so great.
Since the 2010 title, the team has gotten progressively worse to the point they've been one of the poorest teams in the league 3 years running. They have failed to sign any of the marquee free agents they've gone after and also lost the biggest acquisition they got in trade, largely because of Kobe.
What is the value of Kobe's leadership if its not translating into team wins or the overall betterment of the franchise? All the quotes in the world don't disprove the fact that the Lakers haven't exactly flourished during this period when Kobe has supposedly become such a great leader and mentor. But hey, its cool that his teammates say nice things about him and works out well during this farewell tour.
I'm sure you'll now go get your Google on and throw some more quotes at me from non-Lakers who still are in the NBA. And keep doing it until I retract what I said. So, let's skip all that and move on to more important things like slandering LeBum and CP0Edited by lawdog1 - 3/25/16 at 7:50am