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except the first year in crunch time/clutch moments. That was dwade time. bron missed hella gamewinners that season.

You're suffering from revisionist history

Chasing23.com/lebron-James-vs-Dwyane-Wade-heats-closer/

Men lie, women lie

those numbers are misleading. there are other factors and variables that they do not account for.
 
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Same **** yall kill bron for

Right

Bbbbbut but but...he scowls when he plays. Triple doubles. He plays angry...blah blah blah :lol:.

Russ has talent, but I'm not THAT high on him. I think he's clearly a tier or two below the KD's, Steph's and LeBron's of the NBA.

That 3 he missed at the end while flopping reminded me of the one he took at the end of game 5 against the Clips in the WCSF a few years ago....the refs rewarded him 3 FT's...which he hit and won the game. That thought had to be playing in his mind.

If Cp3 flopped like that, and didn't get the call....there'd be vines, memes and pages upon pages of slander in this thread. But ****** pick and choose. I'm schleep though [emoji]128564[/emoji].
 
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those numbers are misleading. there are other factors and variables that they do not account for.

Definition of context?

We do not know the time from which the stat was taken. Just the other day ESPN published that bron is

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Here's something else

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1096224-miami-heat-why-lebron-james-is-not-a-closer

Miami Heat: Why LeBron James Is Not a Closer
By Pete Schauer , Correspondent Mar 9, 2012



LeBron James of the Miami Heat is not a closer.

It used to be that James would take the final shot, missing or losing the ball driving to the rim, but lately, he hasn't even had the confidence to take the game-winning shot.

After passing up the last shot and turning the ball over in the 2012 NBA All-Star game, questions have resurfaced about the lack of clutch performance surrounding LeBron.

During the final seconds of the All-Star game, Kobe Bryant was yelling at LeBron to "shoot the [expletive] ball," something Bryant most definitely would have done.

Don't get me wrong, I am one of the biggest LeBron James fans out there. He's one of the best regular season players in the history of the NBA, but when the game is on the line, you don't want the ball in LBJ's hands—and there are statistics to prove it.

Basketball-reference.com has a tool called the "Shot Finder" that tracks every shot taken in the NBA since the 2000-2001 season. For this example, the cut-off date is March 7, 2012, and I will refer to the criteria below as a "game-winning shot." When tracking James' shots, this is the criteria that I used:

Game: regular season and playoff
Shot Value: two and three points
Shot Result: makes and misses
Quarter: fourth quarter and overtime
Time: five seconds or less in the game
Game Situation: shot to tie or take the lead
FGM= Field Goals Made and FGA= Field Goals Attempted




2011-2012: hasn't attempted any

2010-2011: FGM: 0 FGA: 4

2009-2010: FGM: 0 FGA: 7

2008-2009: FGM: 2 FGA: 6 (.333)

2007-2008: FGM: 1 FGA: 8 (.125)

All in all, James sports a .165 shooting percentage in game-winning situations for his entire career.

It's no wonder why James hasn't attempted any game-winning shots this season, given his 3-25 (.012) track record during the past five seasons.

But he's still a top-three scorer in the NBA this season, averaging more than 27 points per game, while adding 8.4 rebounds and 6.7 assists per game. He's averaging career high shooting percentages, shooting 55 percent from the field and 39 percent from beyond the arc.

So who should close a tight game for the Miami Heat? Let's take a look at Dwyane Wade's numbers using the same criteria that we did for James.

2011-2012: FGM: 2 FGA: 2 (1.000)
Who should take the last shot for the Miami Heat?
LeBron James
Dwyane Wade
Other
Submit Vote vote to see results

2010-2011: FGM: 0 FGA: 4

2009-2010: FGM: 2 FGA: 7 (.286)

2008-2009: FGM: 1 FGA: 11 (.091)

2007-2008: FGM: 1 FGA: 6 (.167)

For his career, Wade doubles LeBron, posting a .321 shooting percentage in game-winning situations.

If I'm coach Erik Spoelstra in the huddle of a close game, I'm drawing up a play for Wade to take the game-winning shot.

But before I exit, I would like to dismantle the notion that Kevin Durant is a clutch performer in the NBA. Using the same criteria that we did for James and Wade, Durant has attempted 23 game-winning shots in his young career. And guess how many have gone down?

Three. Kevin Durant is a mere 3-23 (.130) when attempting a game-winning shot.

Think Derrick Rose is clutch? He's 3-16 (.188) in these situations.

LeBron James may not be the most clutch player in the NBA by any means, but he's still likely to take home the 2012 MVP trophy.
 
:lol: you can carve a stat for anything you want. Way too many factors to actually be considered.



Anybody who watched them play and tries to deny the cape DWade has put on over the years is bogus/lying to themselves.

I remember those games against SAS where Wade put on the cape, and Bron came through off Wade's sauce and started hitting shots. FInished with a "better" statline, but it was obvious these cats were getting bounced without Wade's performance

Remember when Wade set out every other game, was immune during bad performances, allowing Bron to catch all the heat? That was 4 years in a nutshell. The Heat wouldn't have won without Wade... And they wouldn't have won without Lebron...and the wouldn't have won without Bosh.
 
I don't think anyone here thinks Westbrook has a single clutch bone in his body

Still shooting better than Lebrun doe
 
^^^ All I'm saying is...."context" is a real thing. Dudes in here be joking about it....but "factors and variables" should be accounted for.
 
Remember when Wade set out every other game, was immune during bad performances, allowing Bron to catch all the heat? That was 4 years in a nutshell. The Heat wouldn't have won without Wade... And they wouldn't have won without Lebron...and the wouldn't have won without Bosh.


I agree with this completely. Which is why I despise any shade sent towards Lebron's teammates. He is leaning on them consistently and are typecasting guys into roles by making them fit around him. Which is completely fine...until he gets bounced and wants to start pointing blame in various directions. Nah, you/yall created this s**t. Find ways to beat it, dont run away from it. Boys are not about being accountable.
 
Prisoners of the moment syndrome right now, but do yall know what the leagye average is in that situation?
 
AND FOR THE LAST TIME BEING CLUTCH DOESNT JUST INVOLVE THE FINAL SHOT... Being clutch is being able to handle the most pressure filled parts of the game.

And this season Durant/ russ have done fairly well but against the better teams they have struggled a bit more.
 
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bruh..hold on to the westbrook stat for a minute...that Steven A Myth avy at the bottom of the pic has my sides hurtin
 
Prisoners of the moment syndrome right now, but do yall know what the leagye average is in that situation?
The point of me posting that isn't to prove that Russ Isn't "Cluch" (which isn't real anyway)

The point was to prove how dumb that stat is and how limiting it is as far as trying to build a narrative of a player.
 
Being clutch is real. But it's not just shooting the last shot. It's about making plays at the end of the game. I don't think you can quantify being clutch
 
When I say "Clutch" isn't real, I'm talking about the mythical way in which people approach it.

You can't say someone is "clutch" / "not Clutch" based off of makes and misses. There's so much context that goes into those situations, that it's silly to regulate someone's clutchness to makes and misses. 
 
Being clutch is real. But it's not just shooting the last shot. It's about making plays at the end of the game. I don't think you can quantify being clutch
Well, pretty much this 
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