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eddiengambino said:
I think David Blatt will find a job real quick back in the NBA
But probably as an assistant or a coach of some lottery team
I can see him coaching the Lakers
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NO MORE EX-CAVS COACHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Keko Jones said:
A good soldier would address the situation with his superior, hopefully the issue is resolved and they can move on.
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This is what you're not understanding. Lebron is not the soldier in this scenario. He's the sergeant. He's the commander. He's not dispensable. Blatt is. If it was pat Riley or phil jackson or Gregg pop then it would be a different story.

It's not the military. It's politics. You have to come in and stroke egos to an extent in order to get your voice heard. If lebron has your back the whole squad falls in line. Lebron don't listen, nobody listens. Right or wrong it is what it is and there's no way around it which is why Blatt now finds himself on the way out of it.

It's why so many college coaches fail on the nba level. They're used to being the alpha male. It's their program, they have the experience, they have the clout, they make the money. They say jump and players say how high --or else. They get to the nba and can't adjust to the dynamics of not being at the top of the food chain.
 
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leemelone said:
Keko Jones said:
A good soldier would address the situation with his superior, hopefully the issue is resolved and they can move on.
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This is what you're not understanding. Lebron is not the soldier in this scenario. He's the sergeant. He's the commander. He's not dispensable. Blatt is. If it was pat Riley or phil jackson or Gregg pop then it would be a different story.

It's politics. You have to come in and stroke egos to an extent in order to get your voice heard. If lebron has your back the whole squad falls in line. Lebron don't listen, nobody listens. Right or wrong it is what it is and there's no way around it which is why Blatt now finds himself on the way out of it.

It's why so many college coaches fail on the nba level. They're used to being the alpha male. It's their program, they have the experience, they have the clout, they make the money. They say jump and players say how high --or else. They get to the nba and can't adjust to the dynamics of not being at the top of the food chain.
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Is that a d-lo brown avi?
 
leemelone said:
This is what you're not understanding. Lebron is not the soldier in this scenario. He's the sergeant. He's the commander. He's not dispensable. Blatt is. If it was pat Riley or phil jackson or Gregg pop then it would be a different story.

It's politics. You have to come in and stroke egos to an extent in order to get your voice heard. If lebron has your back the whole squad falls in line. Lebron don't listen, nobody listens. Right or wrong it is what it is and there's no way around it which is why Blatt now finds himself on the way out of it.

It's why so many college coaches fail on the nba level. They're used to being the alpha male. It's their program, they have the experience, they have the clout, they make the money. They say jump and players say how high --or else. They get to the nba and can't adjust to the dynamics of not being at the top of the food chain.
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What you don't understand about regardless who is or who's not,  your organizational problems stay within the organization?

You can spin this any which way you can, but the fact of the matter is - Lebron if he is the leader he is not a good leader.

I would love to see a player come out of the players only meeting and air everything out ...

Come on, even you can't be this slow!

Lebron is a Cancer .. in the NBA good coaches still prevail regardless of their divas - however, their divas aren't taking shots at their coaches every opportunity that is presented.
 
leemelone said:
This is what you're not understanding. Lebron is not the soldier in this scenario. He's the sergeant. He's the commander. He's not dispensable. Blatt is. If it was pat Riley or phil jackson or Gregg pop then it would be a different story.

It's not the military. It's politics. You have to come in and stroke egos to an extent in order to get your voice heard. If lebron has your back the whole squad falls in line. Lebron don't listen, nobody listens. Right or wrong it is what it is and there's no way around it which is why Blatt now finds himself on the way out of it.

It's why so many college coaches fail on the nba level. They're used to being the alpha male. It's their program, they have the experience, they have the clout, they make the money. They say jump and players say how high --or else. They get to the nba and can't adjust to the dynamics of not being at the top of the food chain.
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Yeah the flaw in what you're saying is Blatt was hired to be the captain, since we're using military as a reference, Bron is enlisted. He can be first Sgt, doesn't matter you still answer to the captain. Period. The problem wasn't that blatt was trying to impose his will or couldn't or whatever nonsense you're spewing it's very very simple. Blatt couldn't do his job because the Cavs organization wouldn't empower him. Period. Like I said before Bron has never in his entire life won where he wasn't held accountable. Ever.
 
leemelone said:
This is what you're not understanding. Lebron is not the soldier in this scenario. He's the sergeant. He's the commander. He's not dispensable. Blatt is. If it was pat Riley or phil jackson or Gregg pop then it would be a different story.

It's not the milotary. It's politics. You have to come in and stroke egos to an extent in order to get your voice heard. If lebron has your back the whole squad falls in line. Lebron don't listen, nobody listens. Right or wrong it is what it is and there's no way around it which is why Blatt now finds himself on the way out of it.

It's why so many college coaches fail on the nba level. They're used to being the alpha male. It's their program, they have the experience, they have the clout, they make the money. They say jump and players say how high --or else. They get to the nba and can't adjust to the dynamics of not being at the top of the food chain.
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The problem that so many, including myself have about the situation is that no matter what Blatt did he would've never had lebron's "respect". So making a coach as decorated as Blatt appear to seem incompetent just so your image is protected is another reason why people want to see him fail. Lebron keeps pretending to be something he isn't and now the world is catching on....
 
I can see you are far too immature for this discussion. It's not spin, it's reality. You're not understanding and your bias against lebron prevents you from seeing the way things work and have always worked between superstars and their coaches. At ease soldier.
 
leemelone said:
I can see you are far too immature for this discussion. It's not spin, it's reality. You're not understanding and your bias against lebron prevents you from seeing the way things work and have always worked between superstars and their coaches. At ease soldier.
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LMAO ...

Immature ...

Again, no matter how you try to spin it, you don't air your dirty laundry.

Seems to me that you have a problem with authority or at least you don't grasp the concept.

three nters with a bit of a difference reply ... all with the same concept.
 
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JsindaA said:
Yeah the flaw in what you're saying is Blatt was hired to be the captain, since we're using military as a reference, Bron is enlisted. He can be first Sgt, doesn't matter you still answer to the captain. Period. The problem wasn't that blatt was trying to impose his will or couldn't or whatever nonsense you're spewing it's very very simple. Blatt couldn't do his job because the Cavs organization wouldn't empower him. Period. Like I said before Bron has never in his entire life won where he wasn't held accountable. Ever.
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Let's drop the military analogy, that's not at all how this works. The coach is not at the top of the totem pole, especially not blatt. Unlike the military these guys aren't obligated to do what you say. It's on the coach to get players to buy in. That's your number one job. If you can't do that you aren't gonna be able to incorporate any of your ideas. Phil used to kiss shaq's *** to an extent because he had to and he was smart enough to know that. It's just the way it is. People come to the arena to see the players not the coaches. The inmates run the asylum.
 
Keko Jones said:
LMAO ...

Immature ...

Again, no matter how you try to spin it, you don't air your dirty laundry.

Seems to me that you have a problem with authority or at least you don't grasp the concept.

three nters with a bit of a difference reply ... all with the same concept.
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Your concept of authority is warped from what I'm assuming is your military experience. In real life you don't just scream in people's faces and make them do pushups and all of a sudden they respect you. Until you understand that this ain't Vietnam there's nothing to discuss.
 
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Let's drop the military analogy, that's not at all how this works. The coach is not at the top of the totem pole, especially not blatt. Unlike the military these guys aren't obligated to do what you say. It's on the coach to get players to buy in. That's your number one job. If you can't do that you aren't gonna be able to incorporate any of your ideas. Phil used to kiss shaq's *** to an extent because he had to and he was smart enough to know that. It's just the way it is. People come to the arena to see the players not the coaches. The inmates run the asylum.
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You can apply that to anything ...

Like someone else, if the organization doesn't empower their coaches, then you have this fiasco.

They aren't obligated to do what you say - they signed a damn contract .. LMAO

I can see your argument that this is a superstar driving league but your point of view or at least what you are trying to convey is popestrous .

Lebron is not a good leader nor is he a good employee .....
 
They aren't obligated to do what you say - they signed a damn contract .. LMAO
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Contract? Clearly that doesn't mean a damn thing since lebron is still there while blatt is gone. You really think a piece of paper or a title is enough to make people follow you. You're still stuck on this. Moving right along
 
leemelone said:
Let's drop the military analogy, that's not at all how this works. The coach is not at the top of the totem pole, especially not blatt. Unlike the military these guys aren't obligated to do what you say. It's on the coach to get players to buy in. That's your number one job. If you can't do that you aren't gonna be able to incorporate any of your ideas. Phil used to kiss shaq's *** to an extent because he had to and he was smart enough to know that. It's just the way it is. People come to the arena to see the players not the coaches. The inmates run the asylum.
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Yeah, in poorly run organizations. You can spin this HOWEVER you lie....Bottom line his job is to make plays on the court and take orders from his coach. Period. That's why there's a coach. He's not to make subs, call plays, etc. That's the coaches job. You know why Miami succeeded? Pat wasn't having any of this. He empowered spo and while we knew Bron didn't particularly care for him....He was still forced to listen. The spurs, Lakers, bulls, Celtics, etc. ALL never had these problems because their on the same page organizationally. The Cavs are not. They're too busy trying to appease the player and not providing a winning environment. Their inability to check their players is the reason Blatt can't effectively do his job. And EVERYONE in the league sees it.
 
Dudes got this plantation mentality in regards to the NBA.

It doesn't work like that, it's a partnership between coach and player.
 
Keko Jones said:
 
You can apply that to anything ...

Like someone else, if the organization doesn't empower their coaches, then you have this fiasco.

They aren't obligated to do what you say - they signed a damn contract .. LMAO

I can see your argument that this is a superstar driving league but your point of view or at least what you are trying to convey is popestrous .

Lebron is not a good leader nor is he a good employee .....
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If it took well more than a season – with Pat Riley standing up to LeBron in Spoelstra’s defense  and Spoelstra proving himself a good coach  – for LeBron to come around to Spoelstra, what chance does Blatt have?

There’s no Riley in Cleveland to defend the coach. LeBron wields more power with the Cavaliers than he did in Miami. Could you really see Dan Gilbert standing up to LeBron about supporting Blatt?

http://nba.nbcsports.com/2015/01/02...stra-until-well-into-second-season-with-heat/

exactly these dudes arguing nonsense. riley wouldnt allow him to do what the cavs allowed lebron to do. thats the big difference. 
 
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