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basketball is the sport where one player can have the most impact on the game
so having a better superstar has a HUGE impact on how good a team is
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so having a better superstar has a HUGE impact on how good a team is
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THAT doesn't make HIM overrated. That simply means when constructing a team from a GM perspective, if you chose to make your best player your PG, chances are you will NOT win.
i have been saying this for years now
which is exactly why cp is overrated, he gets mentioned with all time greats when he doesnt have nearly the same impact on the game
because he's a pass first pg
That has NOTHING to do with the "ratedness" of the PG that the GM chose to put on that team
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I never said you did, I was wondering where you stood on that. Don't assume man, I was asking you a simple question lol
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lebron has a top 5 pg top 5 pf and got to pick his coach and teammates
how much more help does he need?
how much more help does he need?
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agreed on boths finals series . some times player can and should be blamed for not winning. both kobe and lebron lost those series for there teams in my eyes.
im a kobe fan but i call em how i see em.
it might be silly or unfair but thats the way the world works and see its . In the nfl quarterback get all the glory , but when they dont succeed they take most of the blame as well and football is the ultimate team sport.
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Sure it is but when you are in the Finals and you are probably playing against a team with 2-3 other superstars, it takes more than just having a Superstar as being the difference in winning/losing a playoff/conference series
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He played against a great team. A historically GREAT team.
Why are we blaming the most productive person on a team? Do you hear yourself? Think about how illogical that sounds.
Blame the person that does the MOST for us when WE don't succeed.
That sounds flat out STUPID
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Laker fans in here full of negativity. Settle down guys jeez. We need to restart that Free throw discussion.
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CP3 game 6, 31 7 and 11 on 10/19
Crawford 4-13
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CP3 should have done more because it's his fault
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CP3 should have done more because it's his fault
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I can't logically blame the most productive person on a team for his team not being successful.
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Y'all would have won that if Kobe got out of the way man.
Ben had no answer for Shaq
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if people are ranking him above (for example) someone like tmac, then yes that is the very definition of overratedTHAT doesn't make HIM overrated. That simply means when constructing a team from a GM perspective, if you chose to make your best player your PG, chances are you will NOT win.
i have been saying this for years now
which is exactly why cp is overrated, he gets mentioned with all time greats when he doesnt have nearly the same impact on the game
because he's a pass first pg
That has NOTHING to do with the "ratedness" of the PG that the GM chose to put on that team
when people talk about him being a top 3 all time pg when others have actually led their teams to championships, yes it does make him overrated
when people need to put "pure" infront of "pg" just so they can call him the best pure pg when they know guys like steph are clearly better point guards, yes it does make him overrated
the only way he can change this and NT's love for slandering the little fraud is to win in the playoffs, deal with it
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a L is a L
lose in the playoffs and its a wasted season, no one cares about or will remember you
sorry, but thats how it is and always will be
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so if the best player on the team , has a horrible series /doesnt show up or gets shut down he shouldnt be blamed ? i think it depends on circumstances. its not just black and white. sometime they do deserve blame as i point out kobe in 04 and lebron in 11 and other times it isnt valid.
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I personally don't compare across positions. I mean how can you honestly compare CP3 to TMAC when they have been asked to do different things for their teams.
if people are ranking him above (for example) someone like tmac, then yes that is the very definition of overrated
when people talk about him being a top 3 all time pg when others have actually led their teams to championships, yes it does make him overrated
when people need to put "pure" infront of "pg" just so they can call him the best pure pg when they know guys like steph are clearly better point guards, yes it does make him overrated
the only way he can change this and NT's love for slandering the little fraud is to win in the playoffs, deal with it
You seem to be the only person using the PURE label in this discussion, what are you trying to do man?
I don't recall anyone saying he was a Top 3 PG. Who said that? Name names. I can't agree with that at all. That isn't the consensus so check who is saying that before you use THAT (Him being Top 3) as the general thought of him for you to be calling him overrated.
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dudes like cp0 and lebrun get praised all year for "making their teammates better" why do they suddenly stop doing that in the playoffs?
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It does depend on the circumstance but chances are, without that best player, the team wouldn't even be there.
Also, we have to look at why a best player struggles. Is he a perimeter player that is seeing a lot of double teams in a finals series? What if his teammates don't step up and the opposing team doesn't have to play THEM honestly and continue doubling the star player.
Is that HIS fault or is it the fault of the teammates for not being productive enough that the opposing team has to stop doubling the star.
So yes, it depends on the circumstance but being a coach, I can never blame a loss on one play and/or one player. I just can't. So I am not looking at it as a FAN or the media where a finger is pointed at one player or one play. That isn't how a 48 minute game between two teams work
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You win. No body is falling for it anymore
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how many times has someone replied you with that exact same sentence?
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That's why I don't understand the 2-4 Lebron slander when he really only **** off one of those NBA Finals appearances he didn't win. ( 2011 Finals)
Eff you can say he wasn't efficent in 2007 and 2015 but his teams were so overmatched in those series.
Eff you can say he wasn't efficent in 2007 and 2015 but his teams were so overmatched in those series.
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I don't know what you are talking about
how many times has someone replied you with that exact same sentence?
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Welcome back steve kerr
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