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2015-2016 NBA Regular Season - MDA to HOU - All-NBA - Harden snubbed - Anthony Davis is broke
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why would the Grizzlies want Chalmers when they can have Jose Calderon for a protected 2035 2nd round pick?
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Sad day for me seeing this.
Okafor
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Do it Gar/Pax. Bring the city its children back
Whats that picture from 08 season?
AD damn right need to come home
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4000 of those reps are from New Yorkers. They don't count.
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man you guys think i'm a homer. i'm probably the most logical grizz fan you will meet
people in this city truly think the grizz just need a "shooter" without recognizing the real issue. our offense simply cannot evolve with both TA and Zbo starting (more so Zbo due to his high usage). we also cannot evolve until we get conley more help somehow. the city loves TA and Zbo so much that they fail to realize how their weaknesses and inefficiencies are hurting the team. :x
people in this city truly think the grizz just need a "shooter" without recognizing the real issue. our offense simply cannot evolve with both TA and Zbo starting (more so Zbo due to his high usage). we also cannot evolve until we get conley more help somehow. the city loves TA and Zbo so much that they fail to realize how their weaknesses and inefficiencies are hurting the team. :x
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I think it's because ZBO and Allen have been the identity of the team over all these years. I'm sure you'll deny that in 3, 2, 1...man you guys think i'm a homer. i'm probably the most logical grizz fan you will meet
people in this city truly think the grizz just need a "shooter" without recognizing the real issue. our offense simply cannot evolve with both TA and Zbo starting (more so Zbo due to his high usage). we also cannot evolve until we get conley more help somehow. the city loves TA and Zbo so much that they fail to realize how their weaknesses and inefficiencies are hurting the team.
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Jazz defense has been so far as expected
Gobert for DPOY
so far as expected Gobert for DPOY
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well, people loved zbo because of 2011. what he did by putting the team on his back was amazing. its well deserved, but the fact that he's still being the focal point of our offense is ridiculous. it should've stopped 2 years ago. TA started the "grit n grind" era and that's fine. he's great as a role player, but the fact that a role player means THAT much to our success is telling. TA is the kinda player you need on a championship contending team, but he shouldn't be one your top 3-4 players. we desperately need to find a guy to pair with conley and marc this year.
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Too late for this, when the window was open they needed a backup point guard and kept continuing to put trash behind Conley. Now that the window is closed you want to upgrade that postion now? Get Hollinger and his Analytics all the way out of here.
Interesting...for who?
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false..Jazz defense has beenso far as expected
Gobert for DPOY
john wall winning MVP anddddddddddddddd DPOY.. beal for MIP.. and oubre for ROY
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I don't disagree with this or the other post, more so saying I understand why Grizz fans would feel the way they do. Getting rid of those two would change the entire identity of the team. Change can be scary especially when you're in win now mode. What are you gonna get by trading them way that could help you win now
well, people loved zbo because of 2011. what he did by putting the team on his back was amazing. its well deserved, but the fact that he's still being the focal point of our offense is ridiculous. it should've stopped 2 years ago. TA started the "grit n grind" era and that's fine. he's great as a role player, but the fact that a role player means THAT much to our success is telling. TA is the kinda player you need on a championship contending team, but he shouldn't be one your top 3-4 players. we desperately need to find a guy to pair with conley and marc this year.
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Kawahii Back to Back DPOY!!!!!!!
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Yet Lebby is "the most unasthetic superstar ever"Melo has never been must watch TV to me
Unless Melo aint a superstar
For a lot of people, I'm sure Lebby is like Mayweather - boring to watch but people come out to see him lose.
eh...people come out to see money lose all the time, but he never does. Brutus loses all the time.
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well the thing is....i understand the FO wanted to build a winning culture here. people don't look at the grizz anymore and say "oh they suck" or "they will be an easy out". they now have a culture and its considered a winning culture over the last 4-5 years when before they were the laughing stock of the league. i understand it could be a scary change, but this is where the grizz stand right now....
we keep the team together this year and after next season, TA and ZBO contracts are up....marc is much older and a probably maxed out conley is in his 30's. grizz don't own their pick (even though its heavily protected throughout certain years) for the next 3-4 years. as of now, the grizz don't have any tradeable assets outside of conley, TA and marc. in 2 years, they still will not have any tradeable assets, no young players that can possibly breakout because the young guys we have don't play, and the younger teams out west with young stars are much, much better than us.
so, what's worse? having an old team with no assets and missing the playoffs in a year or two OR a team with rebuilding assets and can hopefully cut the rebuilding phase to about 2-3 years if we strike luck in the draft or through the assets we get via trade? that's where i am with this squad. i felt like we had several opportunities to go deep into the playoffs in years' past, but a combination of injuries and not enough perimeter help stopped us. now, zbo looks terrible, marc is now maxed out coming off a career year (bound to regress a little) and then you have conley. i just think the way management handled the roster and our picks over the last few years have been terrible. luckily, the core itself was good enough to make us a threat.
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i have this jersey too. damn dumars and mike curry for ruining A.I. trust me when I tell you dude didnt cause trouble like they said, but there was an agenda against him.
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i don't know if you guys remember or not, but the year marc got hurt and we were outside of the playoffs, i wanted us to chalk that year up as a loss. we could've tanked and possibly ended up with a decent enough lottery pick to add a piece to the core (the 2013-14 season). we ended up losing in the 1st round to OKC (probably could've won but zbo got suspended), but who's to say we would've went any further than that if we did?
if we tank that year, we have a shot at getting a productive player or at least packaging that pick with a player to bring in a more valuable asset to the core. but, we didn't.
if we tank that year, we have a shot at getting a productive player or at least packaging that pick with a player to bring in a more valuable asset to the core. but, we didn't.
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I think Kobe has had like 5 non 50 win seasons, so it's doubtful he's close.
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oh and instead of moving koufos at the deadline for a 1st round pick in the 20's, we just let him expire without getting any return. the FO talked about how bad they wanted bobby portis, tyus jones or RHJ, but they could've had one of them if they traded koufos away for them. but, we felt koufos playing 10 minutes per game in the playoffs were more important.
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Its not a debate anymore Duncan is easily a top five player of all time. Add a ring this year and he's top three. He's a top three big man to ever play the game. Center and power forward included.
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portis & marc :xoh and instead of moving koufos at the deadline for a 1st round pick in the 20's, we just let him expire without getting any return. the FO talked about how bad they wanted bobby portis, tyus jones or RHJ, but they could've had one of them if they traded koufos away for them. but, we felt koufos playing 10 minutes per game in the playoffs were more important.
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He's regular season numbers are decent but his playoff numbers, where the game matters, are on another level. Eye test and modern analytics all agree.
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