2015-2016 NBA Regular Season - MDA to HOU - All-NBA - Harden snubbed - Anthony Davis is broke

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erupt107th said:
Damn, I haven't voted for any all star games since I was like 12 when you had to fill out ballots at baseball games. How are you guys voting? Online? How do they keep people from voting multiple times?
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On nba.com near the banner you can click the vote button. that's once a day. On twitter and IG, you can tage #nbavote and do that 10 times a day.


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dray starting over blake in the ASG :nerd:
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Probably going to take his spot on the Olympic team this Summer too. Blake might as well just retire now. Don't even bothering coming back from his current injury. :frown:
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facts. Dray would eat euro competition.

nah, all jokes aside, the two of them side by side would be lethal af. Dray likes playing the 5. Put bleezy at the 4. Steph at the one, kobe/wade/harden/klay at the two and bron at the 3.

Team is small, fast and lethal. Another gold medal.
 
Vincent Van Ho said:
OKC lost Harden and Reggie Jackson. I can't say yikes enough (although Reggie was playing like a lone ranger towards the end). Was there any point where giving up Serge instead of Harden would have kept Harden in OKC?
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thing is, when the numbers finally came out, the difference between harden staying and going..was literally...1 million dollars.
 
Remember when the whispers started about teams potentially offering Draymond Green the Max and the Warriors FO came out and said they would match any offer?


That's the difference between a team like the Warriors and the Thunder. Russ/Beard/KD/ would have been lethal for years to come :smh:
 
erupt107th said:
Remember when the whispers started about teams potentially offering Draymond Green the Max and the Warriors FO came out and said they would match any offer?


That's the difference between a team like the Warriors and the Thunder. Russ/Beard/KD/ would have been lethal for years to come :smh:
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The Thunder have always had a clash in personalities. There's no "one" team sentiment. There's always "one guy stealing the shine from the others" mentality.

Teams like Golden State plays for eachother.
 
Freeze said:
On nba.com near the banner you can click the vote button. that's once a day. On twitter and IG, you can tage #nbavote and do that 10 times a day.
facts. Dray would eat euro competition.

nah, all jokes aside, the two of them side by side would be lethal af. Dray likes playing the 5. Put bleezy at the 4. Steph at the one, kobe/wade/harden/klay at the two and bron at the 3.

Team is small, fast and lethal. Another gold medal.
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I agree with you, but the thing is AD is also in the pool and has already played in one Olympics. I don't see Draymond, Blake and AD all getting selected, so my feeling is Blake will end up being the odd man out. Unless the coaching staff decides that they don't need a true C and someone like Drummond gets left out.
 
Hank Scorpio said:
The Thunder have always had a clash in personalities. There's no "one" team sentiment. There's always "one guy stealing the shine from the others" mentality.

Teams like Golden State plays for eachother.
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You mean that's how fans perceive it. We have yet to see KD or Westbrook suggest that there is a "clash of personalities" and we've also seen Harden state several times that he would have and wanted to stay.

Perception is everything. If OKC wins in 2012 nobody is saying anything about a so called clash of personalities.
 
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If Harden had re-signed, I think OKC would have eventually traded away one of Harden or Westbrook.
 
David Lee on his Boston benchings: 'By no means am I accepting'

David Lee was always going to be gravy for his Boston Celtics. Just as it was, sadly, in his last year with the Golden State Warriors.

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The talented forward and former All-Star has been taken out of his team’s rotation for the second straight season, as the Celtics (currently ranked eighth in the East) have demoted him.

Lee, working in the last year of his six-year, $80 million contract, has not factored much into many of the team’s 19 wins.

After a year and a half of playing nice, Lee is playing honest. From the Boston Globe:


“Coach came to me and said we’re going to try and go small at the four,” Lee said, “Which means Kelly [Olynyk] and Jonas [Jerebko]. That’s why Sully has been out of the starting lineup. That was his theory on some changes he wanted to make after us losing a couple of games, so I told him while I disagree with it, I also told him he’s the coach and can choose to do that.”



“Even last year I didn’t accept that, and last year was way different,” Lee explained. “It was more of an injury-based thing where I got injured to start the year and came back. This situation is a bit more frustrating, and by no means am I accepting of the situation, and that’s the first thing that I told Brad. He’s the coach, the one making the decisions. I also trust my teammates and want what’s best for the team. So we’re going to have to see how this plays out. The most important thing is making sure the Celtics get a W in the win column. We’ve been up and down as a team, so coach is trying to find some consistency.”

“Coach” in this instance is 39-year old Brad Stevens, a scant seven years older than Lee and on just his third year of a six-year, $22 million deal. That sort of contract – be it for a rookie NBA head coach (as Stevens was upon signing) or celebrated veteran – is just about unprecedented, and it’s clear that he’s been given the go-ahead (as in, “go ahead until 2019”) to do as he sees fit with the roster general manager Danny Ainge has given to him.

Stevens has that roster working ahead of rebuilding schedule, in the playoffs last season and in the mix this year, and it isn’t as if Ainge gave up a whole heck of a lot to acquire Lee: Gerald Wallace and Chris Babb, since traded and waived, to the Golden State Warriors.

Lee made cameo appearances after falling out of favor with those Warriors last season, even contributing to the team’s Finals win in mid-June, but it was clear by December that his mid-range game was somewhat anachronistic as the Warriors developed under rookie coach Steve Kerr. Lee was the good soldier, however, while watching replacement Draymond Green win the league’s Most Improved Player award, come in second in Defensive Player of the Year voting, and watching from afar as an evolving Draymond took the lead in Western team All-Star voting this year.

The Florida big man averages 7.2 points and 4.3 rebounds in just under 16 points per game with the C’s, career lows excluding a rookie year that saw him dragged in and out of the lineup by the mercurial coaching whims of an off-the-rails Larry Brown. Stevens is less dramatic, and Lee has started four games with Boston, but he hasn’t played more than half a contest since Nov. 24, and he hasn’t played at all in the Celtics’ last two games.

Would the C’s be amenable to trading Lee and his $14.9 million contract? The forward isn’t going to be that forward, just yet:


“We’ll see moving forward how permanent this is,” Lee said. “Obviously, I’m very confident I can help a team win. I hope that’s the Boston Celtics. So, no, I haven’t spoken about that. I haven’t really thought about that yet. Right now it’s about continuing to be ready, and if that was talked about it would be between my agent, the Celtics and other teams.”

This is a cold thing to point out, but at this point Lee’s contract is more valuable to the Celtics than Lee the player. Ainge has been in asset-hoarding mode since breaking up his veteran Boston team during the summer of 2013, and Lee’s expiring deal is exactly the sort of weighty cap figure that the team needs to secure (when added to a package involving draft considerations) the sort of franchise star that the team currently lacks in a trade.

Lee didn’t come to Boston with any illusions of being that franchise star – he’ll leave those delusions up to Evan Turner – but as the team’s lone All-Star and highest-paid player he probably didn’t expect to be benched for entire games in January. Losing out on playing time on a championship team due to injuries and the emergence of Draymond Green is one thing. Being shelved on a 19-16 team that plays in the East is a whole other scenario.

What hurts is failing to find a scenario in which David Lee fits. He can shoot, he can score off of a pick and roll around the basket, he sets a good screen and can rebound. His defensive shortcomings and lack of a three-point jumper – something that would have been sloughed off 20 years ago – tend to limit his contributions down to nil, once it’s all factored in. If that.

The forward isn’t hurting for money and he shouldn’t be nervous about securing another contract this summer, as he’ll get one. What he’s likely looking for is a consistent role, and home. He doesn’t want to be a one-year wonder, jumping from team to team throughout his mid-30s, sitting some nights and surprising in others with a second quarter scoring burst.

That’s understandable. Lee is likely aware that the pro game, through no fault of his own, may have passed him by. Every single statistic that goes beyond what you see in a box score rates him poorly. Brad Stevens is doing a wondrous job in Boston, and yet he’s the second brilliant coach in a row that has failed to make David Lee work.

It’s frustrating for all involved. And we suspect the saga, however under the radar, is far from over.

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pretty tony said:
You mean that's how fans perceive it. We have yet to see KD or Westbrook suggest that there is a "clash of personalities" and we've also seen Harden state several times that he would have and wanted to stay.

Perception is everything. If OKC wins in 2012 nobody is saying anything about a so called clash of personalities.
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I feel like weird narratives always spawn

There's nothing concrete to point to claiming that they didn't get along. I don't think either of them would have been traded either
 
The evolution of the league is going to make players like Lee obsolete or extinct. Can't spread the floor? Can't defend the basket? Can't rebound? Can't play then.
 
bhzmafia14 said:
Also, Grizz and Nuggets making weird waives, picking up players from d league, etc. hopefully, this means a trade is near for both teams. Need Gallinari.
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You can have Gallo. Take him. Don't even want anything in return for him. Hate him.
 
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Lee used to be able to rebound. He was a double double machine for years. He just never played defense. Now he's just plain old and beat up
 
PMatic said:
The evolution of the league is going to make players like Lee obsolete or extinct. Can't spread the floor? Can't defend the basket? Can't rebound? Can't play then.
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pretty much

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What hurts is failing to find a scenario in which David Lee fits. He can shoot, he can score off of a pick and roll around the basket, he sets a good screen and can rebound. His defensive shortcomings and lack of a three-point jumper – something that would have been sloughed off 20 years ago – tend to limit his contributions down to nil, once it’s all factored in. If that.

The forward isn’t hurting for money and he shouldn’t be nervous about securing another contract this summer, as he’ll get one. What he’s likely looking for is a consistent role, and home. He doesn’t want to be a one-year wonder, jumping from team to team throughout his mid-30s, sitting some nights and surprising in others with a second quarter scoring burst.

That’s understandable. Lee is likely aware that the pro game, through no fault of his own, may have passed him by. Every single statistic that goes beyond what you see in a box score rates him poorly. Brad Stevens is doing a wondrous job in Boston, and yet he’s the second brilliant coach in a row that has failed to make David Lee work.
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The prime form of David Lee will always have a starting position in the NBA. When there's over 30 teams, it's inevitable 

The current version of Lee is just a bench player
 
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Vincent Van Ho said:
Lee used to be able to rebound. He was a double double machine for years. He just never played defense. Now he's just plain old and beat up
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I dislike the empty stats narrative, but I think Lee was an example of this. Give up enough shots individually and as a team while playing starter minutes and you're bound to get 9-10 rebounds a game.
 
The odds of me keeping Randle this offseason in my keeper league is slim..... although having Krispy Kreme is a nice consolation 
 
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