Is NOT Having Children Considered a Selfish Act?

Jordman23 said:
Master Zik said:
Wouldn't you agree the unfit should not have kids? or are you saying it's there choice no matter what and what happens after shouldn't be taken in to consideration?
I think we should just ask the Chinese community how they deal with it.

I know I wouldn't be completely adverse to some restrictions and laws.

I'd like to see the poor get a few years ban on procreation and the rich be forced to adopt their first 3 children before they can procreate.

Of course none of this stuff would come to pass any time soon in America.
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^^ Cmon Fam. Think about what that statement means. So because a rich person has money and is able to live a nice lifestyle, he/she should be forced to adopt before they can procreate?
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:lol: I know what it means.

I like to look at it as cuz you have money, live a nice lifestyle, he/she will be gifted with children of any age of your choice for no charge at least 3 times. Female don't have to go through childbirth and a possible c-section.

That's how it got to be if everybody is gonna be on some we are the world and all connected steez and actually want to make the world and society a better place.

It's be handled and seen in the same way The Purge, Hunger Games, etc. handle their concepts. You're not being forced to do this. It's just the way it is for the advancement and betterment of civilization.

No offense, because Adoption is a whole other argument, but if I was to have a kid, I would definitely want to be the genetic father. There's no better feeling than to have a child with your spouse, and realize that you really just created a baby through the miracle of life.
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If you manage to stay with that spouse and raise those kids right I'm sure that feeling would stand but put your self int he shoes of the dude with 14 kids and 9 baby mothers and with each mother there was a time where you felt like this was gonna be yall until you die. Bet that feeling would start dropping down the ranks.

And just to counter I bet it's an amazing feeling to adopt a child and be the main factor in molding a human being in to an adult that somebody else created but wasn't willing or able to follow through. That's damn near GOD moves.
 
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IF everybody followed the, " you must have as many children as possible to maximize your influence" rule, the world population would be 50B right now
 
PLVN said:
HTG Designs said:
agreed

Those who have the most kids have the most influence on the world for the years to come. belieee dat


edit: maybe I should say closest knit families
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I disagree with this

Isaac Newton didn't have any children
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He fathered concepts, people studied his work and carried on his legacy (from a scientific standpoint).
So I get what you are saying, but how many people have such achievements to attract pupils (which is what a child is).
 
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HTG Designs said:
If you live and die and dont have kids ( lets assume your an only child), your genes, any essence of
you and your forefathers is no longer present and cannot have any influence in the ongoing world.
The knowledge gained, traditions carried, is not passed down with intent.
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I will be dead. I don't need to worry about my bloodline influencing the earth after I am gone.

Also, the reasons above you listed don't sound kind of egocentric to you?
 
unkn0wn said:
IF everybody followed the, " you must have as many children as possible to maximize your influence" rule, the world population would be 50B right now
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Dudes be taking that so and so bore x and it was good, go forth and be fruitful **** too far.

HTG Designs said:
PLVN said:
HTG Designs said:
agreed

Those who have the most kids have the most influence on the world for the years to come. belieee dat


edit: maybe I should say closest knit families
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I disagree with this

Isaac Newton didn't have any children
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He fathered concepts, people studied his work and carried on his legacy (from a scientific standpoint).
So I get what you are saying, but how many people have such achievements to attract pupils (which is what a child is).
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If this is the case then you can't really discount any life just cuz they aint have kids.

There are key ppl that were in the lives of ppl who grew up to have huge achievements that didn't have children. Having children aint the only way to make an impact and be influential.
 
HTG Designs said:
DCAllAmerican said:
HTG Designs said:
Its all about perspective.

The world we live in today nurtures the attitude of self ( and that thinking of/helping others is important too, but its secondary).

Thats why some may not see it as selfish. "Its not selfish, we are supposed to fulfill our own desires."

This is why the world is in it currents state. Everyone wants to fulfill their own desires without regard to the

larger people group they are apart of; Mankind. They forget we are all intrinsically connected.
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So having kids is the only way to be part of that larger group?

So having kids is the only way to recognize that one man is connected to the whole group?

I am not seeing how what you are saying is something exclusive to child bearers

A person with no kids isn't able to show those great qualities that you speak of?
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If you live and die and dont have kids ( lets assume your an only child), your genes, any essence of
you and your forefathers is no longer present and cannot have any influence in the ongoing world.
The knowledge gained, traditions carried, is not passed down with intent.

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Man, in the world we live in today, that**** is already happening whether some people have kids or not.

A lot of dead beats out here.
 
HTG Designs said:
He fathered concepts, people studied his work and carried on his legacy (from a scientific standpoint).
So I get what you are saying, but how many people have such achievements to attract pupils (which is what a child is).
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But that's using children and father in an abstract sense

There are a lot of people whose influence upon the world was greater than what they passed on to their offspring
 
Not selfish imo.

Matter fact, I'm the last male in my family that could carry over the family name (barring my one male cousin or uncle doesn't slip up). Second youngest with our last name, youngest male.

Some people just aren't about that family or having kid life.
 
Question to fathers or sons of interracial relationships, is it a concern for you that your grand kids may or may not look like you? Is this a factor you consider which may keep you from having kids with someone of another background?
 
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freedmind2015 said:
Question to fathers or sons of interracial relationships, is it a concern for you that your grand kids may or may not look like you? Is this a factor you consider which may keep you from having kids with someone of another background?
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You don't have to be in an interracial relationship for you grandkids (or kids for that matter) to not look like you.
 
silkboi said:
 
freedmind2015 said:
Question to fathers or sons of interracial relationships, is it a concern for you that your grand kids may or may not look like you? Is this a factor you consider which may keep you from having kids with someone of another background?
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You don't have to be in an interracial relationship for you grandkids (or kids for that matter) to not look like you.
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first thing i thought of

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freedmind2015 said:
Question to fathers or sons of interracial relationships, is it a concern for you that your grand kids may or may not look like you? Is this a factor you consider which may keep you from having kids with someone of another background?
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No. IDGAF what my grandkids look like. As long as they're healthy.

My mothers side of the family and fathers sides are both black, but different skin tones, and I don't look like my grandfather on my mothers side.

He still loved me like no other.

My son is mixed, and its no issue to me. That's not why I had a child. That's lowkey shallow af
 
PRIME said:
No. IDGAF what my grandkids look like. As long as they're healthy.

My mothers side of the family and fathers sides are both black, but different skin tones, and I don't look like my grandfather on my mothers side.

He still loved me like no other.

My son is mixed, and its no issue to me. That's not why I had a child. That's lowkey shallow af
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Agreed, and I wasn't implying those are my personal views. I just saw this episode of Law and Order where this black guy was running around raping Asian women because they wouldn't accept him, even though his mother was Asian. Despite him being a child of rape,  her parents nor the community would accept him and tortured him growing up.
 
DCAllAmerican said:
Just say that John Wooden or Coach K refused to have kids, would you call them selfish?
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No it wouldnt. Calling ppl selfish is rude. lol
Those men pour their themselves into the lives of sooo many boys and young men. The way coack k is, its basically adopting them because he forms life long relationships with his kids that transcend the court. He trains and molds them with life and bball skills.

But Im sure he does other selfish stuff. No one is purely selfless.
We all do selfish things. To generalize a persons quality of character based off of one inherit attribute doesn't seem wise.
 
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I want to have kids what I don't want to do is get married. The concept of marriage is not something I currently agree with.

I always hear that executing such a plan is selfish and will be detrimental to the children.
 
freedmind2015 said:
PRIME said:
No. IDGAF what my grandkids look like. As long as they're healthy.


My mothers side of the family and fathers sides are both black, but different skin tones, and I don't look like my grandfather on my mothers side.


He still loved me like no other.


My son is mixed, and its no issue to me. That's not why I had a child. That's lowkey shallow af
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Agreed, and I wasn't implying those are my personal views. I just saw this episode of Law and Order where this black guy was running around raping Asian women because they wouldn't accept him, even though his mother was Asian. Despite him being a child of rape,  her parents nor the community would accept him and tortured him growing up.
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Didn't this happen with that bow tie blogger? He started hitting Asian chick in the face or raping them, then committed suicide
 
freedmind2015 said:
PRIME said:
No. IDGAF what my grandkids look like. As long as they're healthy.


My mothers side of the family and fathers sides are both black, but different skin tones, and I don't look like my grandfather on my mothers side.


He still loved me like no other.


My son is mixed, and its no issue to me. That's not why I had a child. That's lowkey shallow af
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Agreed, and I wasn't implying those are my personal views. I just saw this episode of Law and Order where this black guy was running around raping Asian women because they wouldn't accept him, even though his mother was Asian. Despite him being a child of rape,  her parents nor the community would accept him and tortured him growing up.
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Ah true. Random as fk :lol:
 
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